[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Amy21
I WILL be proved right when that photo is announced as Madeleine just you wait!!!!!!.

No, you would be proven right when the child is recovered.


then you can gloat about all us evil people being unable to rejoice in the murder of a child

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Billy
Didnt they already prove that its not her?

Yes, a reporter went to the village where the picture was taken and found the family and the little girl in the picture.

Here is the Daily Mail story with high resolution pictures: - The picture that dashes the hopes of Kate and Gerry McCann

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Billy
Didnt they already prove that its not her?

Yes, I replied before I got to the the link Sticks posted a little later, I was a bit miffed to say the least about the implication I and others would gloat about the murder of a child

I replied before all the information was in

I am a baaad forum member

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Here is the Daily Mail story with high resolution pictures: - The picture that dashes the hopes of Kate and Gerry McCann

And goes a long way to vindicate the Portuguese Police.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Sticks

And goes a long way to vindicate the Portuguese Police.

What the sugar puff story that's now attached to the link? Looks like the Daily Mail have moved the story. Here is the stories new title and link:

Girl in 'Madeleine in Morocco' photo is peasant farmer's daughter Bushra

I have updated all the other links in the thread except the one in Stick's post. The press are always messing with things on there websites. Why can't they leave things alone when they are working alright?

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Amy21

That girl is NOT the girl on the photo so I still think that girl is Madeleine this HAS to be a mistake!!!!!!!!. Madeleine is pictured in that photo and she is out there somewhere with her kidnappers who HAVE to be caught and brought to justice and Madeleine to go home safe. I am NOT wrong and wont be eatng humble pie!!!!!!!!.

Of course it's girl from the first picture, the same people are obviously with the child now as in the first picture.This is clear evidence but yet you still claim to be right, unbelievable

[Sticks]

The people who should be brought to Justice are the McCanns

[Sticks]

Latest Daily Mail link

Now will the media please leave this Moroccan family alone so they can go back to obscurity and privacy. The Spanish tourist should not beat herself up over this, as this was an easy mistake to make.

[Sunny_01]

Thanks for that link Sticks, it was also interesting to read the comments made by other people.

It seems that now this has been proved to be a false lead that the focus should return to Madeline, finding her is important whether she is alive or not.

[Amy21]

That girl in the second photo with the coloured woman isnt the same girl as that little girl has coloured skin in the first photo we saw that girl that looked exactly like Madeleine had white skin. I still believe that girl in the first photo IS Madeleine and she is out there somewhere being hidden by that family. And everyone who is living near that family is covering up for them.

And the McCanns had nothing to do with Madeleine going missing so stop saying they need to be brought to justice as they didnt do anything!!!!!!!!!!!! . Leave them alone!!!!! there innocent people who have had their own child kidnapped by some sicko out there. I dont know why you cant understand this???.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Amy21
That girl in the second photo with the coloured woman isnt the same girl as that little girl has coloured skin in the first photo we saw that girl that looked exactly like Madeleine had white skin. I still believe that girl in the first photo IS Madeleine and she is out there somewhere being hidden by that family.

The girls in the photographs are the same. The lighting conditions in the two photographs are very different. The original picture is cloudy and that suggests the exposer is not right. In fact too much light has entered the lens so everything in the picture seems brighter than normal. Hence the little girls skin seems brighter than it really is. The second picture has been taken with a much better camera and the exposer is correct and so the true skin colours of the girl are shown.

It is clear this is just a case of mistaken identity, nothing less and nothing more. If the police thought anything different they would be there now finding out what is going on, but they are not.

Originally posted by Amy21
And everyone who is living near that family is covering up for them.

Finally why with a reward of £2.5 million why would any of the villagers be covering up for them? It is more money than any of them will see in several lifetimes. The thought that that they would cover up for the family is preposterous.

The two girls in the picture are clearly the SAME little girl.

[Mrluvaluva]

I don't know why you are even bothering Red?

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
I don't know why you are even bothering Red?

I'm not sure to be honest.

[Sunny_01]

Probably for the same reason as I am Baz! Red is trying to point out the obvious and is simply being ignored.

The explanations are going from the bizzare to the ridiculous in your attempts to be right Amy. A whole village would NOT go as far as covering up for one family especially as Red says there is huge financial incentives for them to tell the truth if it were to be Madeline. That little girl is CLEARLY the one in the original photo that was released. Give it up already Amy, we are not planning on doing a we were right dance..........tempting as it may be!!

Its sad really that we are arguing over this when at the root of all of this a little girl is still missing.

I

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Amy21
That girl in the second photo with the coloured woman isnt the same girl as that little girl has coloured skin in the first photo we saw that girl that looked exactly like Madeleine had white skin. I still believe that girl in the first photo IS Madeleine and she is out there somewhere being hidden by that family. And everyone who is living near that family is covering up for them.

You moan about the allegations being made against the McCanns, and there you are accusing a Morroccan family of kidnapping, and of a whole village of conspiracy after the fact.

Thats more than a tad hypocritical in my book, as well as delusional

[~Kizwiz~]

Oh my god..... Amy, how on earth can you even say that its Maddie after they have found the girl, and the same woman as the tourist photo'd????

What makes you so sure that its Maddie in original photo? Even her parents have said that they are very sad its not her but that the search must go on.

I wish it would have been her, but it wasnt and no amount of "I am right" will ever make that fact real

[Sarah.]

I gave up with trying to explain to Amy what is meant by an opinion, and what it fact. She really can't grasp that.
That pic was NOT Maddy, but infact a little girl who has been pictured with the same person carrying her.
It's not about whos right or wrong, this is about a 4 year old girl who has 'disappeared' and the police have to investigate everything, including the parents.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by mrs_rko

It's not about whos right or wrong, this is about a 4 year old girl who has 'disappeared' and the police have to investigate everything, including the parents.

Exactly...... the main thing that should matter is looking for her or her body

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Amy21
That girl in the second photo with the coloured woman isnt the same girl as that little girl has coloured skin in the first photo we saw that girl that looked exactly like Madeleine had white skin. I still believe that girl in the first photo IS Madeleine and she is out there somewhere being hidden by that family. And everyone who is living near that family is covering up for them.

And the McCanns had nothing to do with Madeleine going missing so stop saying they need to be brought to justice as they didnt do anything!!!!!!!!!!!! . Leave them alone!!!!! there innocent people who have had their own child kidnapped by some sicko out there. I dont know why you cant understand this???.

Just a word of advice, some people find the term 'coloured' offensive.

Your point on the family been covered for is nonsensical, they've had media from around the world with them over the last couple of days and have hidden nothing, do you really think these are the actions of people who are hiding someone? There's no evidence to suggest otherwise and how likely is it that a whole load of people in poverty would sacrifice the chance of a reward just to keep silent on a neighbours hidden child?

It's quite clear that you're clutching at straws and making wild and unfounded accusations just to try and cover your back to try and be proven correct.It's obvious that original picture was not of the best quality and now proven that it was not Madeleine, yet your carry on regardless.Carry on with the outlandish refusals, you're only making yourself look silly.

Nothing has been proven either way on the McCanns so nobody can factually argue for certain on whether or not they had any involvement with the disappearance of Maddie, until then it's best to keep and open mind.Once again it's a matter of you not being able to separate facts and opinions.

[Billy]

Amy why would a whole town hide a kidnapper?

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Billy
Amy why would a whole town hide a kidnapper?

Especially with a £2.5 million pound reward on offer as I pointed out in my last post.

The pictures were of the same girl.

[Sticks]

You need to apply Occams rasor

The simplest explanation that accounts for the evidence is usually the correct one.

Wild conspiracy theories about a village is not simple.

Look again at this

• In 90% of cases where there is a death, it is usually a close family relative that is the culprit.
• The police have found a missing six hours
• British forensics have found DNA evidence in a car that was not in their possession until one month after Madeline's disappearance
• There are conflicting accounts with the McCanns stories which change every day
• There are conflicting accounts from friends at the Tapas bar
• There are 40 questions that Kate and Gerry have refused to answer, if they were innocent, they would answer them.
• There was the smell of death picked up by British Cadaver dogs
• For some reason they chose not to use a baby sitting service
• Many have commented about their coldness
• When they were made Arguidos, they left, when, before they said they would never leave Portugal.

Add this all up, and the simplest explanation is that given by the Portuguese police, backed up by the finest British forensics., is that Kate and Gerry McCann killed their own daughter.

[Sticks]

This morning I read this on the Sun Online website

As one of those on a certain side of this argument, it is ironic I bring this to your attention.

Do you want us to remove our posts and should this thread now be locked, or is the Sun being paranoid?

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Sticks
This morning I read this on the Sun Online website

As one of those on a certain side of this argument, it is ironic I bring this to your attention.

Do you want us to remove our posts and should this thread now be locked, or is the Sun being paranoid?

It sounds like the McCann's Legal Team have got involved and have warned the Sun to remove the posts or they sue for libel. It's good to know that the they are making such good use of the fighting fund.

[Red Moon]

It looks like the Police focus has moved to Spain. The McCann's should be looking at the positives of having the police investigate them if they are innocent as it is the only way to remove suspicion that they might have been involved in her disappearance.

Madeleine McCann: Parents' 'suspicious' trip

A day after a possible sighting of four-year-old Madeleine was ruled out, police re-focused on her parents, who are formal suspects in her disappearance.

Kate and Gerry McCann have dismissed the latest claims made against them
They are believed to be studying CCTV footage of their journey to Huelva, across the Spanish border on August 3 where they went to raise their daughter’s profile.

It is understood police are suspicious of the trip because the McCanns changed their plans at the last minute and did not have any formal meetings while there. Detectives are said to be working on the theory, dismissed as ludicrous by the McCanns, that Mrs McCann may have accidentally killed her daughter and relied on her husband to help cover it up.

One line of inquiry is whether they could have hidden her body and used their silver Renault Scenic -hired 25 days after she disappeared - to dispose of the body. Traces of Madeleine’s DNA were allegedly found in the vehicle.

Police are puzzled by the high mileage, with 1,700km added to the clock between May 27 and July 3. They are sceptical about the Spanish visit because the couple did not arrange any meetings with dignitaries and two hours are unaccounted for, it was claimed. A

police source told Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha: "The trip to Spain on a national holiday raised suspicion and investigators have been to the country trying to find out where the McCanns went."

The couple’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell insisted the journey was innocent: "The trip to Huelva was organised on behalf of the Find Madeleine Campaign.

"It was conducted in the full glare of journalists from all over Europe and beyond. Kate and Gerry McCann are entirely innocent and have nothing to hide."

It is less than 24 hours since a little girl with striking similarities to Madeleine in Morocco was identified as Bouchra Ben Aisa, a farmer’s daughter. There were concerns that the authorities were slow to act after she was traced by journalists rather than police.

A source close to the couple said: "Frankly it is a sign of the times that journalists can locate a relatively obscure child in the Moroccan mountains and one would hope that the authorities were able to locate a child as quickly as that."

But Mrs McCann’s aunt Janet Kennedy said the McCanns were "philosophical".

"Inevitably it is a disappointment, but I think they are very philosophical about it because it’s happened so many times.

"Just suppose Madeleine is in Morocco, what does that mean? You just have to keep on."

Mrs Kennedy spoke as she helped parcel up more than 2,000 toys and gift given to the McCanns which they have decided to send to underprivileged children in Belarus.

They were left at the war memorial near the family’s home in Rothley, Leicestershire, alongside thousands of green and yellow ribbons.

They will be sent to Zhodina, some 20 miles from the capital Minsk, and Bobrusk in the south of the former Russian republic, next week.

The family has spent nearly £300,000 of the fund set up to help find Madeleine, which has now raised £1,041,697.

Source: The Daily Telegraph