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MeMyselfAndI · 30-07-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBig

I don't know anymore. I can't stand racist people.

Seriously swap him, he was my joint favourite in BB12, i cant even express how disapointed i am in him this season & his attitude, i think being a veteran has allowed him to belittle others. He has changed so much, but I will always remember him as my favourite with Rachel In BB12.

Macie Lightfoot · 30-07-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

How is saying someone is playing the race card racist?

Remember when Chima tried to play the race card against Braden (even though Mexican is not a race) and then later on she called Russell a "terrorist" during an argument because he's arab(or atleast of middle eastern decent).

Some people do play the race card, and it's not right.

Actually, Chima called Russell a terrorist because he was terrorizing the House

lostalex · 30-07-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Actually, Chima called Russell a terrorist because he was terrorizing the House

yea, LOL. She's a hypocrite of the highest order.

DrunkerThanMoses · 30-07-2011, 07:46 PM

Pov time

Macie Lightfoot · 30-07-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

yea, LOL. She's a hypocrite of the highest order.

Well I mean she only "terrorized the House" when Grodner threw in a Coup d'Etat to rig against Jessie's side of the House, but who wouldn't terrorize the House when the show's rigged against them like that?

MeMyselfAndI · 30-07-2011, 08:10 PM

omg -watches-

lostalex · 30-07-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Well I mean she only "terrorized the House" when Grodner threw in a Coup d'Etat to rig against Jessie's side of the House, but who wouldn't terrorize the House when the show's rigged against them like that?

sane people don't "terrorize" anyone. If she'd been given the coup d'etat i doubt she'd be complaining. She was obviously making a racist statement against russel. Who uses the term "terrorist" unless thjey are talking about actual terrorism. It's clear she was being racist.

Macie Lightfoot · 30-07-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

sane people don't "terrorize" anyone. If she'd been given the coup d'etat i doubt she'd be complaining. She was obviously making a racist statement against russel. Who uses the term "terrorist" unless thjey are talking about actual terrorism. It's clear she was being racist.

Well I don't even think she terrorized the House, I was being ironic ffs. And obviously she wouldn't be complaining if she received the Coup d'Etat. She flipped out because how Grodner rigged it against her, by all of a sudden giving "America's favorite" a ridiculous amount of power. As she said, the whole week was a joke, making Chima think she had power and just make a joke out of her by the end of it. And on the note of terrorism, Chima's a very political person. With Russell running around the House saying that Chima was talking him and wanted to suck his dick, a political person like Chima would come to the conclusion that he's terrorizing the House. And Russell was a bully, so it's not like she's incorrect.

lostalex · 30-07-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Well I don't even think she terrorized the House, I was being ironic ffs. And obviously she wouldn't be complaining if she received the Coup d'Etat. She flipped out because how Grodner rigged it against her, by all of a sudden giving "America's favorite" a ridiculous amount of power. As she said, the whole week was a joke, making Chima think she had power and just make a joke out of her by the end of it. And on the note of terrorism, Chima's a very political person. With Russell running around the House saying that Chima was talking him and wanted to suck his dick, a political person like Chima would come to the conclusion that he's terrorizing the House. And Russell was a bully, so it's not like she's incorrect.

America could have just as easily given her the coup d'etat. That's a stupid argument to say that Grodner can control who America loves.

I don't care what kind of editing magic they used, no one could make Chima likeable to America cause she's just an unlikeable bitch. Her own fault.

And if you honestly believe she wasn't being racist when calling Russell a terrorist, you are incredibly naive. Was Russell a bully? maybe, but so was Chima. But when has anyone ever used the word "terrorist" to describe a bully? She was clearly refering to his ethnicity when she said that.

Macie Lightfoot · 30-07-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

America could have just as easily given her the coup d'etat. That's a stupid argument to say that Grodner can control who America loves.

I don't care what kind of editing magic they used, no one could make Chima likeable to America cause she's just an unlikeable bitch. Her own fault.

And if you honestly believe she wasn't being racist when calling Russell a terrorist, you are incredibly naive. Was Russell a bully? maybe, but so was Chima. But when has anyone ever used the word "terrorist" to describe a bully? She was clearly refering to his ethnicity when she said that.

No, but when Jessie's side of the House is winning and Jeff's side is getting picked off, Grodner comes in with a twist that was not planned (that is a fact, you can't argue that it was preplanned like you already tried to previously) in which "America's Choice" will get a ****load of power. It was obvious that America would vote for Jeff, so that's how Grodner solved the problems. It's kinda funny how you're saying that I'm incredibly naive when you're the one who refuses to believe any of these rigging claims. You think Dick won fair and square, you think Jeff's Coup d'Etat wasn't rigged, you think the hamsters question in BB9 was fair game. So who's the naive one in this situation, you or me?

And on that note, if you say "maybe" Russell was a bully, that shows how incredibly naive you are

Russell is the epitome of a bully, and if you can't even recognize that, then it goes to show how much your opinion really matters if you can't see something so obvious. Has Chima made remarks about Russell being Middle Eastern? Yes she has. Do I think her calling him a terrorist was? No, I just think it's an example of Chima being who is she: a political diva taking the literal meaning of terrorist and applying it to the biggest bully in the House. And at the end of the day, it's obvious that Chima doesn't hate all Arabs. On the other hand, we have "golden boy" Jeff making remarks that apply to all gays and implying that they're all pedophiles, but that's another story.

SoBig · 30-07-2011, 09:20 PM

I'm completely with troy on this one.

Jords · 30-07-2011, 09:24 PM

Troy is pretty spot on, espicially with Jeff, hes painted in a much bright light than really he should (helped because hes with Jordan and hes good looking).

lostalex · 30-07-2011, 10:05 PM

Well i disagree with all of you. If you think Jeff is more racist than Chima was. Jeff saying "race card" while Chima actually calling an arab person a "terrorist" and you think He's a racist and She's not?

Gimme a break. *rolls eyes so hard it hurts*

But whatever. Big Brother is like cloud watching i guess, people will see whatever they wanna see.

Macie Lightfoot · 30-07-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

Well i disagree with all of you. If you think Jeff is more racist than Chima was. Jeff saying "race card" while Chima actually calling an arab person a "terrorist" and you think He's a racist and She's not?

Gimme a break. *rolls eyes so hard it hurts*

But whatever. Big Brother is like cloud watching i guess, people will see whatever they wanna see.

Did I ever say Jeff's a racist? No, for one because homosexuality isn't a race. But if we're on the matter of prejudice, then yes I think Jeff is more so than Chima. And I guess you're right about Big Brother being like cloud watching if you're going to ignore my point about Jeff implying that all gays are pedophiles and act like saying "race card" is the worst thing he's done

Like I said, Chima doesn't hate all Arabs. Did she make racist comments at Russell, yes she did. Were they deserved, well not really because nobody deserves to be the victim of racism. But in the same respect, nobody deserves to be the victim of bullying either. Chima didn't deserve to be called a stalker and be slandered that she wants to suck Russell's dick. Chima's responses weren't any better, but understandably she was pissed. She didn't call Russell a terrorist because he was Arab. She took the literal meaning of terrorist because Russell was terrorizing her.

And on the other hand, Jeff's comments were applicable to all gays. He implied that all gays are pedophiles, and therefore shouldn't be let around children. And of course, Grodner makes sure that it's edited out of the show to keep his golden boy edit up. You know, the edit that the naive viewers like you are falling for. But like you said, it's like cloud watching. We can all interpret things how we want, we can all ignore what we want to ignore. Some people will ignore more than others, but hey, can't change that.

DrunkerThanMoses · 30-07-2011, 10:22 PM

Dani said she might put bitch Shelly up as the replacement.... oh my god I would love her if she did that.

lostalex · 30-07-2011, 10:23 PM

Chima was a stalker, and ai absolutely believe Russell that Chima wanted to blow him. How is it bullying to tell the truth about Chima's slutty gameplay?

Chima is delusional, Jeff is not.

And again, I disagree with you that Chima was using terrorist as some kind of synonym for "bullying" i've never heard a person in MY LIFE USE THE WORD TERRORIST AS A SYNONYM for bully, that's ridiculous. You are trying to excuse her racism by saying she's just using creative language?? gimme a break.

Chima tried to degrade Russell by lumping him in with muslim extremists because of his race.

Jeff never called gays pedophiles, and when Kalia challenged him, he backed down. He never actually said a damn thing about gay people, unlike Chima who CLEARLY used racist language and still hasn't apologized for anything she said.

Macie Lightfoot · 30-07-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

Chima was a stalker, and ai absolutely believe Russell that Chima wanted to blow him. How is it bullying to tell the truth about Chima's slutty gameplay?

Chima is delusional, Jeff is not.

And again, I disagree with you that Chima was using terrorist as some kind of synonym for "bullying" i've never heard a person in MY LIFE USE THE WORD TERRORIST AS A SYNONYM for bully, that's ridiculous. You are trying to excuse her racism by saying she's just using creative language?? gimme a break.

Chima tried to degrade Russell by lumping him in with muslim extremists because of his race.

Jeff never called gays pedophiles, and when Kalia challenged him, he backed down. He never actually said a damn thing about gay people, unlike Chima who CLEARLY used racist language and still hasn't apologized for anything she said.

No, Chima wasn't a stalker. What is a stalker, however, is waiting in the Kitchen for someone to come out of the HoH Room, follow them do the Diary Room, antagonize them the whole way, follow them out the stairs back up to the HoH Room, and antagonize them on the way back. THAT'S being a stalker.

I'm not excusing Chima's racist remarks. I acknowledged them, but once again like cloud watching you're going to choose to ignore that too

She made racist remarks, but I don't think calling him a terrorist is one, when he was in fact terrorizing her.

Thirdly, not all terrorists are Muslim extremists and vice versa. That's just ignorance, but I'm not surprised coming from you.

ffs I never said Jeff called gays peodphiles, but he made implications of it. He said that a gay person shouldn't be the headmaster of school for little boys. He said that being gay is perverted. He even joked about Dumbledore saying "Hey Harry, lemme feel your balls." Not a very funny joke, right? And he didn't back down from Kalia initially, he got more heated saying how they shouldn't let a headmaster of a school be gay, because through his implications, if you're gay, you're automatically a pedophile and want to touch a teenager's balls. But I mean, you can ignore that if you want, like cloud watching. For all I know, maybe that's another one of your rash assumptions. All terrorists are Muslim extremists, all gays are pedophiles, etc etc.

Not to mention that Chima apologized outside of the House and released a giant statement, but you're ignoring that too I suppose.