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Old 24-05-2013, 10:05 AM #1
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its very hard to fight someone who is not afraid to die for what they believe in.
A bit of a truism there, I believe .....
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A bit of a truism there, I believe .....
it is but it sums up the fact that we will never win this war, we can only try to prevent the loss of life.
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it is but it sums up the fact that we will never win this war, we can only try to prevent the loss of life.
Nobody wins a war where ALL sides are "not afraid to die for what they believe in".

In war, 'collateral damage' cannot be "prevented".
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Nobody wins a war where ALL sides are "not afraid to die for what they believe in".

In war, 'collateral damage' cannot be "prevented".
this is a very different war, in which only one side fights fair, one side fights to protect the other fights to destroy.

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it is but it sums up the fact that we will never win this war, we can only try to prevent the loss of life.
Sounds a lot like cancer, but strides are being made, a little at a time. Keep up a little bit of the hope there, Sheriff, all is not lost yet.
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Sounds a lot like cancer, but strides are being made, a little at a time. Keep up a little bit of the hope there, Sheriff, all is not lost yet.
like cancer you never know when it will strike who it will try and kill.
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Imagine if Martin Luther King or Ghandi decided to be terrorists, would we even know their names? probably not. They are heroes because they advocated NON-VIOLENT change. If they had tried to lead terrorists for their causes they would have only hurt their causes. instead Martin Luther King was able to make the KKK the bad guys, and Ghandi was able to make the British the bad guys, and their strategy was far more effective.

Imagine if homosexuals were blowing up buildings and doing suicide attacks, murdering heterosexuals at weddings. Would that help or hurt the gay equality cause? It would certainly hurt it.
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I feel like i'm not getting as much attention as i'd like in this thread. just saying...
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I feel like i'm not getting as much attention as i'd like in this thread. just saying...
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I'm paying attention to you Alex
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Thanks Sheriff and Lee, i thought maybe i was talking to myself.
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Thanks Sheriff and Lee, i thought maybe i was talking to myself.
those are the best coversations
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Sorry, yep it is Blair /Bush are no longer in power.. why are there still tensions then?
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Sorry, yep it is Blair /Bush are no longer in power.. why are there still tensions then?
who's that question for?
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It was to arista sheriff, you are all too quick haha!
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The definition of terrorism according to the Oxford English dictionary.

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the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
I despair of the UK and USA they are probably responsible for more terrorist attacks than any other nations in the world.
If you are going to dish it out in the pursuit of money then be prepared to get it back occasionally.
The ****ing media in this country turn my stomach what chance does anyone stand when you have the likes of ITV stating that a "muslim looking" couple of people were responsible for the murder of a soldier.
WTF does a muslim look like? They are trying to poison your mind to think that a "muslim looking" person is a bad person.

Who would choose to base an opinion on mainstream media? They are politically driven there is nothing impartial about them they have an agenda and they stick to it.
The truth doesnt even figure in what they choose to report.

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I despair of the UK and USA they are probably responsible for more terrorist attacks than any other nations in the world.
If you are going to dish it out in the pursuit of money then be prepared to get it back occasionally.
The ****ing media in this country turn my stomach what chance does anyone stand when you have the likes of ITV stating that a "muslim looking" couple of people were responsible for the murder of a soldier.
WTF does a muslim look like?
No actually the vast majority of terrorist attacks are by muslims against other muslims. You can't blame America or the UK for al queda setting off road side bombs or bombs in market places in afgahnistan and iraq for the past 10 years.

Muslim terrorists have killed far more muslim civilians than America's drones.


The Muslim world has been a violent **** hole for hundreds of years, since before the United States has even existed as a country. (the rest of the world has also been a violent **** hole, America and Europe included)
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No actually the vast majority of terrorist attacks are by muslims against other muslims. You can't blame America or the UK for al queda setting off road side bombs or bombs in market places in afgahnistan and iraq for the past 10 years.

Muslim terrorists have killed far more muslim civilians than America's drones.


The Muslim world has been a violent **** hole for hundreds of years, since before the United States has even existed as a country.
Do you have a source with figures that includes the terror campaigns waged by the UK and USA around the world?

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yea, buy any world history book. Well any western history book. Maybe the history books in Gaza will tell you that mickey mouse caused all of the conflict in the muslim world. lol
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yea, buy any world history book.
So that is a no then.
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So it's okay for him to call me strange, but it's not okay for me to call him a moron? We all know which mod is in a bad mood today, don't we...
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So it's okay for him to call me strange, but it's not okay for me to call him a moron? We all know which mod is in a bad mood today, don't we...
LOL i take it you got a bit over excited.
I called your claims strange not you awwww.
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