[Ammi]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You are far from alone in feeling tired and that people are taking the p1ss but good people have to fight twice as hard to make up for the bad people who are too stupid to take responsibility for their actions.

Stay safe dezzy x

...Sheriff.....isn’t it the forum way and ethos to share our wobbly times, isn’t it what we encourage of each other....and there are no times so uncertain and wobbly as our present times...and then so much hostility shown for someone who shared those wobbly moments, who put trust in us to do that...

[bots]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I feel actually a bit scared again....

just carry on being as careful as you have

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

just carry on being as careful as you have

I'm not scared of getting it, I scared by what we will have to face as a country economically and emotionally.

[bots]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm not scared of getting it, I scared by what we will have to face as a country economically and emotionally.

yes, i agree, it's pretty depressing thinking about what lies ahead in the coming weeks and months

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Sheriff.....isn’t it the forum way and ethos to share our wobbly times, isn’t it what we encourage of each other....and there are no times so uncertain and wobbly as our present times...and then so much hostility shown for someone who shared those wobbly moments, who put trust in us to do that...

Some times we love someone and they don’t love us back it’s not because they are bad it’s because they don’t feel the same way as we do!

I whole heartedly encourage anyone to share the way they feel on here.

Personally from me, my mum has been in intensive care she had a torn bowel and been left with a colostomy bag

She was expected to live and has defied the odds she is still in hospital, we have been living on a knife edge living minute by minute.
But we must all take the good with the bad and look for better days ahead.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Some times we love someone and they don’t love us back it’s not because they are bad it’s because they don’t feel the same way as we do!

I whole heartedly encourage anyone to share the way they feel on here.

Personally from me, my mum has been in intensive care she had a torn bowel and been left with a colostomy bag

She was expected to live and has defied the odds she is still in hospital, we have been living on a knife edge living minute by minute.
But we must all take the good with the bad and look for better days ahead.

...I’m so, so sorry that your mum’s health is such a worry......but she’s defying those odds, eh ...and hopefully that will continue...our much loved vulnerable relatives have been so exposed through these times and some have been sadly lost...but there are also so many like your mum, who are here and fighting...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

......we may have all lived the same restrictions in some ways but we haven’t all lived the same restrictions in others...and I know that you’ve worked all the way through it, with no option to work from home and feel less vulnerable and exposed...we’ve been given the ‘light’ haven’t we, with the vaccines...?...but it’s now feeling countered with the super spreader viruses and just so stress filled and we’re running so much on low spirits atm......

Absolutely right and those are lovely, understanding and supportive words
Which I think a lot of people need at this time.

We are still very much in worrying times and uncertain ones too.
Sadly there's more to come too yet obviously.
I know the worries I have, my determination to protect those with me is vital I keep going on with.

You keep safe Ammi please.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think the next couple of weeks are going to be very bad. There is no way Boris would have taken this action unless we had already passed the critical threshold, it's just not what he does. We may all be tired of it, but focus on March/April

Indeed... In the south at least I think the lockdown may be too late to stop a bad situation. From what Wee Nic was saying in Edinburgh yesterday, the situation in Scotland is on a knife edge and that's with it being thought that we're "4 weeks behind" the South of England, so if it works this lockdown MAY have come in time to mitigate the worst strains on the NHS. That will also apply in some English regions... But the ones that are 4 weeks ahead? I don't know. I feel like NHS capacity might be screwed no matter how effective this lockdown is.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: virologist, teacher Marjon Koopmans and ICU chief Diederik Gommers have received the Machiavelli award 2020, it is a prestigious award for public communication

the two are praised for all their hard work, research on coronavirus, and their many public appearances in talk shows the whole year

even more so, the jury of this award also applauds the two for going directly against the anti-maskers who continue to think of this pandemic of a ''hoax'' and criticize the choices of government (for example going for lockdowns)

[Nicky91]

Netherlands:

The Netherlands could have started vaccinating people against coronavirus earlier but was not agile enough when decisions were taken in November, health minister Hugo de Jonge has said, ahead of a parliamentary debate on vaccination strategy.

The Netherlands had assumed the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, which does not require storage at extremely low temperatures, would be approved first, and that the vaccination programme could have been rolled out via family doctors.

However, the Pfizer-Biontech vaccine was the first to come on the market, and that is unsuitable for use in small-scale vaccination centres.

De Jonge told MPs in a briefing on Monday evening he could have asked local health boards to prepare for the Pfizer-Biontech vaccine once that had become apparent.

‘I can now conclude that we have proved insufficiently agile to be able to accommodate the changes that have occurred quickly enough,’ he said. ‘I could have asked the health boards earlier to prepare… because of their knowledge and expertise with large-scale vaccination campaigns.’

Symbolic

The government has been heavily criticised for its slow approach to the vaccination programme and many other EU countries started the process before the end of the year. De Jonge earlier described the rush to start vaccinating as ‘symbolic’.

De Jonge said he hoped that the vaccination programme in the Netherlands would have been completed by the third quarter of 2021, although much depends on deliveries, he said. ‘That determines the speed at which you can vaccinate, in both the Netherlands, and the rest of Europe.’

The first Dutch person to be vaccinated will be Sanna Elkadiri, a nursing home worker from Eindhoven, the AD said on Wednesday.

She will be vaccinated in Veghel, one of three locations where vaccinations will start on January 6.

Priorities

MPs are due to debate the new strategy on Tuesday with opposition MPs describing the government’s approach as chaotic and confusing.

Opposition MPs are also concerned about the way the government has responded to public pressure and will now vaccinate both acute care and nursing home staff before nursing home residents, as originally planned. Other groups, including teachers, police officers and local authority wardens have also said they should be considered priority cases.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...cine-strategy/


first vaccination here tomorrow then

[arista]

[Chancellor reveals £4.5bn of grants for businesses
- as GCSE and A-level exams scrapped]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55535546


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-liv...tland-12178867

[Vanessa]

I think we're all worried and fed up.
But I refuse to let this stop me from living my life.
So later I will be going to Lidl, as I do every week.
And on friday I'm going back to work.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think we're all worried and fed up.
But I refuse to let this stop me from living my life.
So later I will be going to Lidl, as I do every week.
And on friday I'm going back to work.

...Vanessa......

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Vanessa......

I'm in the vulnerable category.
I'm supposed to be shielding, but I'm not going to.
Staying home everyday would drive me mad.
Working at least stops me from thinking too much.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm in the vulnerable category.
I'm supposed to be shielding, but I'm not going to.
Staying home everyday would drive me mad.
Working at least stops me from thinking too much.

...if you’re decision is not to shield, Vanessa, I know that you’ll be incredibly careful with all precautions...yeah, that is the upside of working, it is also a distraction which is hugely beneficial to mental well-being...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...if you’re decision is not to shield, Vanessa, I know that you’ll be incredibly careful with all precautions...yeah, that is the upside of working, it is also a distraction which is hugely beneficial to mental well-being...

Yes, I'm always careful.
I wear my mask when I go out and at work.
We also have plexiglass screens.

[Cherie]

Going ahead with Christmas mixing was crazy, but hey people had to play scrabble with Auntie Jane or it just wouldn't have been the same, what can you do

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think we're all worried and fed up.
But I refuse to let this stop me from living my life.
So later I will be going to Lidl, as I do every week.
And on friday I'm going back to work.

That's the spirit Ness

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, I'm always careful.
I wear my mask when I go out and at work.
We also have plexiglass screens.

......keep safe, my love.....

[Vanessa]

Now they're saying we'll be in lockdown until march

[AnnieK]

I wish I could work....I need something. Struggling with huge anxiety today

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I wish I could work....I need something. Struggling with huge anxiety today

Are you on furlough?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I wish I could work....I need something. Struggling with huge anxiety today

you need to get out Annie, take Matthew and go for a walk or do an exercise class get the blood pumping

we have come this far, we can push through to Easter, 5 days into Jan already!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I wish I could work....I need something. Struggling with huge anxiety today

......it’s really so difficult, Annie...as much as we can, all we can do with our thoughts is to try to focus them in the positives we didn’t have last year, with the vaccine being administered atm.....there is an end now to try to keep our heads on...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

you need to get out Annie, take Matthew and go for a walk or do an exercise class get the blood pumping

we have come this far, we can push through to Easter, 5 days into Jan already!

Yes, we need to keep busy.
We have three months to go