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Ted Cruz wins in New York. Trump may not be a senator but New York should count as hi home state. Bit embarrassing to lose your home state, ask Marco Rubio. Cruz won his home state of Texas and Kasich won his in Ohio.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/us...-colorado.html Republican race is getting much closer now. Trump maintains Cruz is illegally winning the recent states. How childish is this guy? How can anyone take hims seriously. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/us...-colorado.html
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Its a shame people have focused on every single stupid thing said or done by Trump, his campaign and his supporters they dont realise Cruz is just as scary. Possibly scarier cuz while Trump wont be able to build the wall with the door in it Cruz can definitely implement his hateful policies.
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i really hope Trump doesn't become president
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if he does end up president its because the people want him to be. They have had plenty opportunity to vote for other people, so it would be no accident.
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and also on CNN, someone is comparing Trump to Reagan, because Donald Trump is an entertainer, well if starting riots is entertainment, omg ![]() ![]() |
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He won't, and I pray that he gets the nomination, because he will be destroyed for life going into a debate with Hillary Clinton. This idiot couldn't pass a basic civics test if his life depended upon it. He's the most hated man in the country. His own party can't stand him. He couldn't even run a simple business without running it into the ground. It will be glorious. In fact, the majority of Republicans are so angry with how much damage he's done to their party, they can't wait to see him debate Hillary and have him destroyed once and for all. It's going to be pathetic to witness. What she's going to do to him on that stage is going to be frightening. Mark my words. You do not want to debate this woman, and he can't put two and two together.
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..Ted Cruz is definitely extremely worrying in his views and not a 'better' alternative to Donald Trump but the most worrying thing of all I think, is that in present days, such prejudiced/extreme candidates can get so far as they have at all...
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That kind of over the top language of the left is also just as dangerous, theyre calling everying racist now, when the reality is we are under massive threat from radical jihadis and illegal immigration. The real underlying problem is the fact we are still arming so called rebels in the middle east and the weapons are then flaling into the hands of ISIS al Qaeda Taliban and whatever other names these radical terrorists have
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At best, he's only going to get the nomination and that's looking a bit dicey at the moment due to Cruz's resurgence.
If Trump gets nominated then he'll be a free win for the Democrats, I'm kinda hoping he does get the nom just to cement the Democrats' victory. The winner of the election is dependent on the swing states and there's no way that Donald Trump will appeal to them because they tend to be more moderate. Last edited by Tom4784; 10-04-2016 at 10:58 AM. |
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Trump isn't as extreme as ted cruz. Trump will move slightly more to the middle if he wins. He doesn't advocate any social security cuts, he wants to put more into mental health. He wants to increase tariffs on the Chinese dumping. He doesn't take a penny from corporations, none these are not far right policies. He didn't support the illegal Iraqi invasion, Clinton did. Clinton is a corporate lackey with dozens of backers, she will simply oversee the massive worldwide corporate takeover with the TTIB
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Either way, they'll both get destroyed by the Democrats, it's just that Trump will be easier to annihilate. |
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Clinton is evil, a very divisive , corrupt , corporate lackey and warwonger. I don't even trust her with the health insurance. No doubt Ill be told im being sexist again. ha. how sexist is it to bomb a country illegally on a pack of lies, lest we forget over a million innocents died and over half a million of them were women. that's what I call real politik sexism. a damn sight worse than any other version. She is also profoundly sexist herself getting madeleine allbright to say, any woman who doesn't back a woman goes to hell. Now that is offensive and sexist but in the current climate of double standards she gets away with it. as for trump. lets break this down what is the craziest thing he has said? 1) hes been demanding we raise tariffs on Chinese steel for a decade. right or wrong? RIGHT 2) Hes the ONLY candidate who has discussed the 10 million+ illegal immigrants coming in from mexico? there is no border there is no defence, do a lot of them bring massive crime and drugs. YES. Not all, but a lot and saying they should have their paperwork checked and brought in legally is RIGHT 3) the Jihadi threat. We in Europe has 1000s of jihadis amongst us. we have open borders, the Schengen agreement means these terrorists are not even checked, we don't even have competent intelligence in many EU nations, we have had infinitely more terrorist attacks than America as a result of our insane policies and insane leadership. Trump has called for a temporary shutdown on muslims entering the usa until the government can work out what the hell is going on. Ok totally unreasonable an a soundbite to win the far right, everyone knows that. BUT massively increasing our checks on people entering the country he is 100% RIGHT again. The 1st rule of government is to protect the people. 4) Increase military funding to wipe out ISIS and stopping arming rebels we don't know , RIGHT. 5) Refusing corporate handouts for his election campaign, like Bernie, 100% RIGHT 6) raising taxes on the richest, RIGHT 7) Keeping social security as it is in line with inflation, RIGHT 8) Increase spending on mental health to counter violence and gun violence 9) Increase spending on the police and nati terrorism budget, RIGHT Other candidates have simply buried their heads in the political sands whilst the whole world goes up in smoke ok so whats he been wrong about? He thinks obamacare should be replaced with a more efficient system, sounds like a nightmare. No doubt with 40 odd million extra patients on the government programme you will have masses of waste and over burocracy and premiums are still too high and hurt the smaller businesses. again it would be interesting to actually hear these arguments instead of the utter nonsense weve heard on all sides about hands and trumps hair etc and hillarys false indignation. everyone is avoiding the issues. He thinks the extra funding for mental health, police, anti terror and crime budgets will help reduce gun crime. But he supports the 2nd amendment fully and argues guns also help fight criminals and protect the good people. We are too smug on guns in Europe. I hate guns but whilst gun deaths are way lower in Europe as we always hear, the actual figures on violent crime , drug related theft are astonishingly higher in the UK and Europe. at 100ss of times the rate of the USA> reading between the lines, something we don't too because of our hysterical media, a vast number fo violent crimes, thefts, drug related crime are stopped by guns in America....so overall I think he is more WRONG ON THIS. Abortion. he was hoodwinked there. he doesn't like abortion , who does? millions of babies terminated before they get a chance to live. Now what he was saying is he will tighten the laws around abortion and support people with other options. Of course ,rape , incest, health complications are exceptions. But he doesn't want to finance abortion, he wants to change the fact many parents, women especially feel rushed or pressured and without options on abortion and regret it afterwards. The vast majority of abortions are down to the womans financial situation. So why not help with that? In many cases they feel they haven't got the finances to support a child. There are many other options such as fostering and adopting children. The radical feminists say its patronising to women to suggest they don't think it though etc That false outrage is offensive and damaging. we are talking sometimes about teenage girls, some with health, poor, drugs, alcoholic, mental health related issues or simply poorly educated. Isnt it sensible to support such women, with as much time and support as possible so they can look at and understand all options open to them and the father of their unborn child? Abortion has become far too populist imo hence why we have record numbers of late abortions. The feminists can say what they like about the womens choice to abort, but what about the womens right to not abort? the rights of the unborn child and the fathers too? He said under pressure yes there must be punishment if a woman aborts a child illegally. Then he changed his mind and said the doctor would be charged if he aborted a baby outside of the laws. That IS the case in the UK and everywhere else? if you abort after 24 weeks, the doctor will be punished. so why the hysteria?. Abortion should be legal up to a point. But 24 weeks is obscene....millions of healthy babies are born before 24 weeks. I think the radical feminist take on this is horrific. Anyone who suggests anything to encourage fewer abortions and support parents and women into looking at all options is seen as woman hating? what a a pile of absolute nonsense. saldy like most things with political correctness, all discussion dies along with millions of innocent unborn babies Last edited by the truth; 10-04-2016 at 02:01 PM. |
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your hero hillary is a warmonger....trump didnt want the illegal iraq invasion and yes trump has promised to keep social security as it is and not to cut it...he also isnt a corporate lackey like hilary Ł250k a corporate speech clinton it amazes me how uninformed an american like you is on your own politics? |
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never, but 4 of his of his casino companies did declare section 11 bankruptcies...sadly loads do this. in short ,the majority of creditors get paid in full ,but many employees and pensions usually get shafted. hes had enormous business successes but hes had some shady failures too
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From CNN Live :
NY Primary likely Republican voters 54% Donald Trump 22% John Kaisch 15% Ted Cruz |
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nowhere near as depressing as that idiot merkel destroying all of Europe and allowing 1000s of terrorists access across the whole continent and back and forth to the middle east unchecked. America gets almost no terrorism we get 100s of attacks every year. some foiled but tragically many get through and will continue to do so...the EU is insane and yet we sit here and judge how America is run?
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yes, really 100s of planned attacks, the majority of which are foiled or go wrong. yes 100s and yes there are 1000s of jihadis all over Europe. around 34,000 innocent people were randomly murdered by isamic jihadis last year...That is the reality of the idiotic and insane position we are in now thanks to our spineless leaders
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