[GiRTh]

Blimey sunny, I thought you supported them.

I'm going to do some training in Leicester at the Hospital that Kate Mcann works. I'd better make sure I dont make any inappropriate comments.

[Sunny_01]

Hell no G, I am careful in what I would imply BUT that said I still have my own personal thoughts and doubts about them. I like to try and keep an open mind about it all though.

You + no inappropriate remarks hmmmm I expect a full written report and how you plan to actually do that?

[GiRTh]

Apparently, many of the Hospital staff wear 'find Madeline' badges. And, the guy who I'm working with has already made enough inappropriate comments for all of us. I hear he once said something entirely inappropriate while Kate MCCann's mother was in the room. Good lord, talk about a faux Pas.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Apparently, many of the Hospital staff wear 'find Madeline' badges. And, the guy who I'm working with has already made enough inappropriate comments for all of us. I hear he once said something entirely inappropriate while Kate MCCann's mother was in the room. Good lord, talk about a faux Pas.

Oh dear bless him! but at least they will have heard all the bad stuff from him so you might seem tame in comparison, however I doubt that.

I have just read Anne Enrights essay entitled "Disliking the McCanns" that she wrote for the London review of books, it was very good and just said all of the things we have really, like why leave the kids, she has spoken to a friend who is a doctor who she asked about sedation of a child and she discusses her findings, all interesting stuff. I would attach the link but I am far to lazyx

[GiRTh]

I have to say, there is something very cold about Kate McCann.

They, of course, were wrong to leave her on her own and their story is frankly not believable. I know the police have made hash of the case but for someone to come into the flat and remove her without leaving any evidence just does not add up.

[Sunny_01]

I hear you G. It is all such a mess really and at the heart of it is a little girl.

I think that in attempts to make sense of what could have happened we all get a little distracted from the fact that she is still missing, even if she is no longer alive attention needs to go back to finding her so she can have some respect and dignity.

[GiRTh]

Do you think she's still alive? Personally, I doubt it.

[Sunny_01]

No I doubt very much that she is still alive, poor wee lamb. I just pray that they find her (alive or dead) as then this whole thing can come to and end and the little girl can be given a resting place.

[GiRTh]

Agreed. I also don't hold much hope that they're going to find her. This is such a mess.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I have to say, there is something very cold about Kate McCann.

They, of course, were wrong to leave her on her own and their story is frankly not believable. I know the police have made hash of the case but for someone to come into the flat and remove her without leaving any evidence just does not add up.

Problem is are the Potrtuguese police effecient enough to find the evidence. Based on their performance thus far I doubt it.......

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama

Problem is are the Potrtuguese police effecient enough to find the evidence. Based on their performance thus far I doubt it.......

That's probably true but the story the McCans are sticking to is a very flimsy one.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GiRTh

That's probably true but the story the McCans are sticking to is a very flimsy one.

The story the Portuguese police are sticking to must also be flimsy otherwise they could have arrested and put them on trial by now.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama
The story the Portuguese police are sticking to must also be flimsy otherwise they could have arrested and put them on trial by now.

Indeed, but the way the McCanns have acted makes my skin crawl.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Indeed, but the way the McCanns have acted makes my skin crawl.

From the evidence or lack of evidence thus far I cannot form a reliable opinion as to their guilt or not.

I am puzzled by what you mean by the way the Mc Cann's have acted that makes your skin crawl.

[Sticks]

Dispatches are doing a special tonight at 21:00 on Channel 4

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[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama
From the evidence or lack of evidence thus far I cannot form a reliable opinion as to their guilt or not.

I am puzzled by what you mean by the way the Mc Cann's have acted that makes your skin crawl.

Basically the way they stayed out in Portugal for so long, the way Kate comes across on TV. Things like that.

I'm not saying they're guilty I'm merely stating that I find them suspicious.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Basically the way they stayed out in Portugal for so long, the way Kate comes across on TV. Things like that.

I'm not saying they're guilty I'm merely stating that I find them suspicious.

I understand. The only thing that bothers me about them in the early days was their lack of belief that their child was abducted by a child abuser. If a child of mine was taken then that would be a nightmare constantly stuck in my mind. They were able to discount it as they never voiced such fears. Which leads one to believe they new she was not in such hands.

Having said that going on the evidence and the appalling conduct of the Portuguese police I have to keep an open mind as people do react to grief situations in different ways and the Mc.Canne's may simply be protecting their own sanity by blocking out their worst fears......

[Sticks]

Going by the reports of the forensic evidence, the PJ may be right that KM killed her own daughter.

We must not forget this that officially the McCanns are officially suspected of being child killers, and must treat anything they or their spokesman along the lines of they would say that wouldn't they. In fact, by Portuguese law they and their spokespeople should say nothing, no matter what is reported in the press. Already just by referring to a comment about a Bible passage Kate has breached that regulation and the PJ have every right to have her arrested on that charge alone.

They have no right of reply, even if that sounds unfair, It is the law

[Sunny_01]

You keep saying the forensic evidence Sticks but it is purely REPORTED forensic evidence. We have no official line on what it is, where it was found etc.. We have the word of a police officer who has since been removed from the case a police team who have failed to carry out a proper investigation. Yes they are suspects but if the police truly felt them responsible they would have hauled them back by now, or if they even had the slightest bit of evidence linking them.

My dislike is similar to yours G, I feel they have appeared very cold and almost business like when it comes to talking about their missing daughter. I once let my daughter out of my sight in a super market and she hid the little beast I was desperate, frantic and it upset me for days that I thought I had lost her. How can they NOT show a single shred of emotion when discussing their missing child, thats what gets me.

[Sticks]

Proverbial stiff upper lip?

[Crazy]

Just to let everyone know

Searching for Madeleine: a Dispatches Special Thursday 18 October
9:00pm - 10:00pm
Channel 4
With relentless coverage in the press of the Madeleine McCann story, what can a TV documentary add? Dispatches has sent a team of top criminal investigators, led by a retired detective chief superintendent, to Praia da Luz to cast an eye over the Portuguese police's investigation into Madeleine's disappearance. With expertise learnt in dozens of UK cases, the team explores the case and how they would have investigated it. No DVDs were available for preview, but since the programme comes from the usually excellent Films of Record, it's likely to be a thoughtful attempt to separate fact from wildly speculative fiction.

[Sunny_01]

Thanks for that Crazy

[Sticks]

I was disappointed they did not pursue the "Murdered at the hands of her parents" scenario as much as the now discredited abduction scenario

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Sticks
I was disappointed they did not pursue the "Murdered at the hands of her parents" scenario as much as the now discredited abduction scenario

for me the most disgraceful aspect is how the mere mention of the possibility that the parents could be responsible is glossed over by the UK media.

Statistically the majority of children murdered are done so at the hands of one or both parents or a guardian.

Yet that cannot even be mentioned.

When such things are glossed over or ignored the result is not "reporting", it is partisan commentary and skewed opinion.

One must ask why they would do this, and the only answer I can come up with is bidding rights for the story.

Do they feel they have to keep on the McCanns good side to be included .........

[Sunny_01]

I was also disappointed that they did not explore this in detail. They claim to have looked at ALL the angels yet failed to highlight that it could in fact have been the parents. I thought the show was a waste of time to be honest, they simply showed what we all knew and certainly did nothing to sway my thinking about the situation.

In fact it made me more annoyed that they left them kids after seeing the where they dined and knowing how far it really is. You just wouldnt would you? I know as a normal, nurturing, caring parent I certainly wouldnt