[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m a naturally cautious , pessimistic person whereas you are clearly more positive about things .

There’s no right or wrong way to be and we don’t get to choose , believe me I don’t want to be anxious .

We just come from different angles that’s all ... no need to fall out or get personal.


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There's a lot of people still fairly frightened Zizu.
We can't all be couldn't care less individuals.

My own Mum is very scared still after having 2 vaccinations too.

It's a pity during this pandemic over the year that more hadn't been more anxious and therefore more cautious.
I'd term being cautious a good quality myself.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the moment last year that it looked like we were going to have a pandemic, i said on here, Hancock is the last person who should be in charge of it. I havent changed my view.

Hancock has lied, he has reframed time lines after the event, he has re-interpreted statements made after the event. I think he is disingenuous. So. i don't give him any quarter. He is responsible for a lot of failures and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it when the enquiry finally happens

Yes the Cock is Arrogant,
he is safe until after the Election
when they do the Enquiry - that's what many press claim.

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[Nicky91]

interesting discussion at one of Germany's talk shows Maybrit Illner last night

more about they are now going to begin vaccinating children above age of 12, in a attempt to bring infection risks down in schools


also one science journalist (via skype) there said we all have to share our vaccines with the entire world (especially in some of countries with the variants: Brazil, South Africa, India) because we shouldn't take the risk of the vaccines helping against the variants, or against variants to possible still come (because there might also come one whom the vaccines have no or little effect against)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m a naturally cautious , pessimistic person whereas you are clearly more positive about things .

There’s no right or wrong way to be and we don’t get to choose , believe me I don’t want to be anxious .

We just come from different angles that’s all ... no need to fall out or get personal.


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…on a positive..(…kind of…)…COVID being something for the last year to channel those anxiety energies into… may mean that other anxiety related things have faded more and not built into the ‘monsters’ they may previously have…?…so that’s something to build on, that you’ve managed very well without them and that going forward, you may be able to keep them more faded into the background…

[Toy Soldier]

I for one am shocked that the end of lockdown isn't as smooth-sailing as they promised. Shocked.

[Vanessa]

Im off to Brighton on Monday and next week i have a week off.
Just in time for my birthday!
I'm going to see an old friend and enjoy the seaside.
I'll be bringing my masks of course.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I for one am shocked that the end of lockdown isn't as smooth-sailing as they promised. Shocked.

We should be able to open everything after the vaccination programme is finished.
That could be end of July, I think.

[Ammi]

…I can’t imagine it ever being ‘smooth’ because surely for that to even be any real possibility, the whole world would have to be at the same stage in their vaccination progressing…and it’s not just a little bit apart with that, some are going to be years apart…and the virus will inevitably gather and progress more quickly than human ability and possibility so adjustments will always have to be implemented…?….our projections are always given as if we were and island…because we are an island……but we’re not an island in isolation…the most accurate that projections have been so far as I can see are with islands that have become more isolated…

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We should be able to open everything after the vaccination programme is finished.
That could be end of July, I think.

It would be if it was going to be people lining up all the way - at the moment there are still enough people unvaccinated but keen to be vaccinated that the pace hasn't slowed. At some point once all of the "eager" 1st and 2nd doses are done... we're going to hit a huge roadblock of people who need a bit more coaxing. And then a brick wall of people who are simply going to refuse.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I can’t imagine it ever being ‘smooth’ because surely for that to even be any real possibility, the whole world would have to be at the same stage in their vaccination progressing…and it’s not just a little bit apart with that, some are going to be years apart…and the virus will inevitably gather and progress more quickly than human ability and possibility so adjustments will always have to be implemented…?….our projections are always given as if we were and island…because we are an island……but we’re not an island in isolation…the most accurate that projections have been so far as I can see are with islands that have become more isolated…

The way forward is with the vaccine.
That will help us to have some kind of a normal life.
I feel so much safer now that I'm vaccinated.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It would be if it was going to be people lining up all the way - at the moment there are still enough people unvaccinated but keen to be vaccinated that the pace hasn't slowed. At some point once all of the "eager" 1st and 2nd doses are done... we're going to hit a huge roadblock of people who need a bit more coaxing. And then a brick wall of people who are simply going to refuse.

It will take time, but we'll get there.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The way forward is with the vaccine.
That will help us to have some kind of a normal life.
I feel so much safer now that I'm vaccinated.

lockdown life is my normal life

so i don't need the vaccine

[Nicky91]

but definitely those who got a very active social life, should all be vaccinated yes

[bitontheslide]

the indian variant is killing people in their 30's regularly over there at the moment which changes the whole profile. It's no longer the vulnerable and elderly the only ones at risk

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the indian variant is killing people in their 30's regularly over there at the moment which changes the whole profile. It's no longer the vulnerable and elderly the only ones at risk

There's no evidence of it being more severe in the UK ... the situation in India is tragic, but it's as much down to the demographics in India as anything else. MASSIVE wealth divide, poor general health, poor nutrition, limited access to sanitation, and their healthcare system has completely caved. Life expectancy in India is still only something like 68, even with Covid totally out of the equation... in the UK it's now nearly 80.

Basically the living conditions for many in India makes developing complications more likely, and then the healthcare situation means there's nowhere to go when that happens.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I can’t imagine it ever being ‘smooth’ because surely for that to even be any real possibility, the whole world would have to be at the same stage in their vaccination progressing…and it’s not just a little bit apart with that, some are going to be years apart…and the virus will inevitably gather and progress more quickly than human ability and possibility so adjustments will always have to be implemented…?….our projections are always given as if we were and island…because we are an island……but we’re not an island in isolation…the most accurate that projections have been so far as I can see are with islands that have become more isolated…

Exactly.

It's incredible it's thought oh the UK is all vaccinated, all's well, do what we like.

As you say until the World is fully vaccinated, there will always be increased danger of variants in the UK arriving too.
Unless we pull up the drawbridge and close all airports and ban all travel in and out of the UK.

Which is why we should be as eager to see the vaccination roll out intensified far more worldwide, not just in the UK.