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Old 22-07-2009, 07:08 PM #1
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noone is saying they would punch their child or something like that (its actually illegal to leave a mark) but a light tap on the hand or back of legs or bum
conzors have you got some evidence that all kids who are smacked rebel against their parents cos i dont think that is the case i know for myself it wasnt likewise with my sister and cousins
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I used to hate it thought but it kept me good. I think the children who are smacked, are the best behaved
Yeah same. I was smacked too when I was wee, and when I got to about 6/7 my mum would just say 'If you don;t be good etc. you'll get a smack' and that was enough for me to behave. My two wee sisters never get smacked though, and tbh, I can see a difference in their behaviour. They're much more cheeky and would put up a fight about things because they know nothing will happen to them.
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One million percent against it. There are other means of disciplining a child.
Really ? Tell me about it then because children who didn't get that kind of 'punishment' are usually the ones who have the less manners, education and have no boundaries.
We've never smacked our children and they are both well-mannered, well-educated, and have proper bedtimes and rules. My oldest child just won the top award at her school.

I don't have an opinion on what other parents should or should not do, but I'd just like to state that the above opinion certainly does not apply to all children brought up without physical punishment.
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I think that these days parenting has got a bit softer, and people wrongly associate a slap on the hand/legs/bum with an actual full-strength punch.
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One million percent against it. There are other means of disciplining a child.
Really ? Tell me about it then because children who didn't get that kind of 'punishment' are usually the ones who have the less manners, education and have no boundaries.
We've never smacked our children and they are both well-mannered, well-educated, and have proper bedtimes and rules. My oldest child just won the top award at her school.

I don't have an opinion on what other parents should or should not do, but I'd just like to state that the above opinion certainly does not apply to all children brought up without physical punishment.
Argee with Linda. I was never hit and I like to think I'm wel behavoured and mannered.
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We've never smacked our children and they are both well-mannered, well-educated, and have proper bedtimes and rules. My oldest child just won the top award at her school.

I don't have an opinion on what other parents should or should not do, but I'd just like to state that the above opinion certainly does not apply to all children brought up without physical punishment.
I'd also like to add that my parents never hit me either but I'm not against it. I wish sometimes they did because I was "l'enfant terrible" of my family. I just think I'd have never turn against them for doing that.
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I wouldn't turn against them either. My parents smacked me once or twice.. nothing major. I just think it's a personal choice for parents to make, and I don't think it has any bearing on how the child turns out.

Discipline, whether physical or non-physical has to be consistent, and that's what determines how the child responds to it.


(I don't believe you were ever terrible Remy.. you are so angelic now. :P)
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(I don't believe you were ever terrible Remy.. you are so angelic now. :P)
I was just being horrible to my parents because I was the only boy, I was hyper all the time, I never went to sleep until 2am, I almost got expelled of primary school twice. My parents know what hell is thanks to me. But both of them were from very difficult countries when they did immigrate so they didn't want their children to know the same stuff they did hence they never hit me, but looking back, they should have had because I was hell, I exhausted them.

But then I'm nicer now. I still have a shock temper hence I went to Anger Management and getting banned of 3 bars for fighting but I'm a lot calmer. But don't cross me lol
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never done me any harm so i'm for it.
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It was common for me and all my family, we got smacked, we got the slipper thrown at us, them with the broom chasing us round, just typical Italian I guess.
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It was common for me and all my family, we got smacked, we got the slipper thrown at us, them with the broom chasing us round, just typical Italian I guess.
It is very Italian, that's how my mum grew up but she didn't want to do it to us. I've a Russian dad too so I can let you imagine what it was in his childhood but I'm glad I had parents like that.
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I remember one couple who had a stick of bamboo that was used for punishing their toddler, because the Bible talked about the Rod of Correction.

It was a case of the Bible tells us to use a stick, preferable a thick one like a rod is. Remeber the line from the 23rd Psalm, "Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me".

I also remember a woman on the radio who used a wooden spoon, and the punishment was issued a while after the event and the purpose was to make it really hurt.

According to some, a beating that does not leave a mark, is not a proper beating, there should be an after sting to remind them. If you draw blood, even better. We were told we would be beaten so hard we would not be able to sit down for a week, so according to that saying there should be bruising that lasts several days when you are administring discipline. Remember part of a heavy beating is to send a message to others.

Is that not what Nuns and Monks used to do in "care homes?"

Remember the ald saying, spare the rod and spoil the child

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Which was not quite the same thing.

There is an anomally in the law. If you smack an adult, that is common assault, and if a man smacks a woman on the backside, that can be classed as sexual assault.

Beat a child, well that's lawful chastisement.

Apparently according to our law, it is open season on hitting children.

In the classic case of a toddler, the adult just needs to hold the child during the temper tantrum and understand their growing brain has problems processing information and handling emotions - however it seems to take less effort to beat the living daylights - sorry administer lawful chastisement
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