[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I think she's just playing the best game the girl can play, at least she's making drama, I think the boys in the house are quite deluded I think 2 out of the 4 had no chance Marcus and Sree, and it wasn't like she didn't tell them in the end. Tbf, If you knew someone was obsessed over you (Marcus/Sree) you would be quite nervy to tell them you don't fancy them (just incase they flip their ****).

perhaps one would be "unervy" but even so she has told marcus on many occasions just that.. so that is no longer a concern for her as she has been straight up with him,time and time again..

[DiamondDogTags]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

perhaps one would be "unervy" but even so she has told marcus on many occasions just that.. so that is no longer a concern for her as she has been straight up with him,time and time again..

I think people are over reacting, she did say in her VT that boys fall in love with her... I think she thought with Marcus he would know where the line was between playful flirting and love, but she was pretty wrong.

[setanta]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
good morning bro..

believe i am not here to defend anyone,simply to put my point out there as the rest of you have.. i dont agree with the way she went about things.but are you telling me you are under complete control of your emotions? brother they kissed,shared one intimate moment and some seem fairly quick to call her a slut?to be fair this has been the case for some time,i just feel whatever she does will be considered ethically wrong..

i do not feel the need to judge anyone,let alone a woman who has kissed only one man,she hardly declared her love for him. so where exactly is this metaphorical dagger in siavash's back?

by the way i shall reply to your other post as soon as i find that thread lol

Ah don't worry about the other thread... it was a few nights ago when we were waffling away together and I put my case against Noirin across, which I feel has been totally vindicated by her actions tonight. Did you watch the whole thing? It was spellbinding. I have so many examples of her blatant disregard for others feelings and she gave us a real insight on a number of occassions to what she thinks of Siavash, Marcus and Tom. Throughout the whole evening she couldn't keep a straight face, smiling all the time at the attention she was getting.

[setanta]

Did any of you actually witness what happened last night? I'm too tired to talk about it now but I'll detail exactly what was said tomorrow for posterity, because as we're all aware, the highlights show has a real tendency to distort our view of what actually happened. Plus they'll miss out on all the marvellous actions and phrases Noirin used throughout the night. She truly is some piece of work.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by setanta

Ah don't worry about the other thread... it was a few nights ago when we were waffling away together and I put my case against Noirin across, which I feel has been totally vindicated by her actions tonight. Did you watch the whole thing? It was spellbinding. I have so many examples of her blatant disregard for others feelings and she gave us a real insight on a number of occassions to what she thinks of Siavash, Marcus and Tom. Throughout the whole evening she couldn't keep a straight face, smiling all the time at the attention she was getting.

no i find it rude that i haven't replied back to you so i shall do so as soon as i get round to it..

yes i did fall asleep,but my girl phoned and told me to swich it on so i watched the rest on e4 plus one..we seem to have a misunderstanding here,i am not defending noirin,i myself have found some of her actions distasteful in regards to her sensitivity with certain house mates,but this slut issue i have a real problem with..

i dont see the need for it,i dont see jordan or pamela anderson as a slut and i wouldnt expect anyone to use that term for someone who has done nothing truly criminal..

she did not make guys fall for her,they take responcibility for that.she did not grind up against each of them and whip out her breasts at any given time.. infact what she has done tonight is confront her feelings for a guy she likes in the house,which she should be commended for doing.and she hasnt just spread her legs because of her feelings for siavash,they shared a simple kiss..

lets say she is attracted to tom,so what of it?she's not a nun or an android,as long as she doesn't pit each guy against each other or use her feminine wiles with each of them i dont see why the hatred aside from women just being judgemental for the sake of doing so...

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico

She doesn't fancy SOMEONE she's fancies TWO guys and has kissed and cuddled with one of them!

And she thinks the whole thing is funny!

Oh...and she doesn't think she's done anything wrong!??!!!!

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by DiamondDogTags

I think people are over reacting, she did say in her VT that boys fall in love with her... I think she thought with Marcus he would know where the line was between playful flirting and love, but she was pretty wrong.

i understand why you think she is wrong,i just dont see why people dont see she is a friendly woman in the prime of her life,so she's enjoying herself as appose to being some prudish woman (which i garauntee would be a reason for some to hate on her even then)

i see that her cuddling marcus and their secretive chats may not have helped her cause,but she is entitled to a hug right? once she realised marcus's true feelings,she backed off.. he is too over bearing but that is not her fault.. (cliche alert) personally i feel that she is stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment and infront of the nation she's finding things a little difficult to handle a 35yr old man with a crush on her not taking no for an answer..

[setanta]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

no i find it rude that i haven't replied back to you so i shall do so as soon as i get round to it..

yes i did fall asleep,but my girl phoned and told me to swich it on so i watched the rest on e4 plus one..we seem to have a misunderstanding here,i am not defending noirin,i myself have found some of her actions distasteful in regards to her sensitivity with certain house mates,but this slut issue i have a real problem with..

i dont see the need for it,i dont see jordan or pamela anderson as a slut and i wouldnt expect anyone to use that term for someone who has done nothing truly criminal..

she did not make guys fall for her,they take responcibility for that.she did not grind up against each of them and whip out her breasts at any given time.. infact what she has done tonight is confront her feelings for a guy she likes in the house,which she should be commended for doing.and she hasnt just spread her legs because of her feelings for siavash,they shared a simple kiss..

lets say she is attracted to tom,so what of it?she's not a nun or an android,as long as she doesn't pit each guy against each other or use her feminine wiles with each of them i dont see why the hatred aside from women just being judgemental for the sake of doing so...

But it wasn't just a simple kiss... they had been fawning over each other all day and she asked to lie beside him in bed. They were talking about their future together and how much trouble they were in but it was too late now. She sold him down the river tonight- it was a heartless thing to do to a man who she let have a good feel of her tits in last nights highlight show lol. Not the actions of an ethical, moral lady.

And she has most definitely pitted them all against one another: she loves the attention. She couldn't stop smiling all night long, even when she spoke about how ill she felt and asked what Tom and Marcus were fighting about "was it me?"- cue the smile. She's never been that smiley throughout the length of this series. Even the girls remarked that this whole story would be on the highlights show and her smile got brighter.

I'm not judging her for the sake of judging her.... this girl is bereft of any feelings for anyone but herself, and she plays these games with men for her own vanity. She said last night that ordinarily she'd have avoided Siavash today and gone straight to Tom if this was in the real world. It doesn't cost this girl a thought to break friendships and trust- like I said yesterday..... she's incapable of forming lasting relationships with anyone. It goes against her nature.

I have so many more things to say on subject but my minds a bit muddled cuz I need a bit of a kip.

[Marc]

Surely a slut is someone who sha*gs alot of men not just goes around and speaks to them

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by setanta

But it wasn't just a simple kiss... they had been fawning over each other all day and she asked to lie beside him in bed. They were talking about their future together and how much trouble they were in but it was too late now. She sold him down the river tonight- it was a heartless thing to do to a man who she let have a good feel of her tits in last nights highlight show lol. Not the actions of an ethical, moral lady.

And she has most definitely pitted them all against one another: she loves the attention. She couldn't stop smiling all night long, even when she spoke about how ill she felt and asked what Tom and Marcus were fighting about "was it me?"- cue the smile. She's never been that smiley throughout the length of this series. Even the girls remarked that this whole story would be on the highlights show and her smile got brighter.

I'm not judging her for the sake of judging her.... this girl is bereft of any feelings for anyone but herself, and she plays these games with men for her own vanity. She said last night that ordinarily she'd have avoided Siavash today and gone straight to Tom if this was in the real world. It doesn't cost this girl a thought to break friendships and trust- like I said yesterday..... she's incapable of forming lasting relationships with anyone. It goes against her nature.

I have so many more things to say on subject but my minds a bit muddled cuz I need a bit of a kip.

lol im not sure about anyone else,but when i share a kiss with the other half i dont keep my hands on my hips you know..so ofcourse his hands would be around that area,unless your suggesting siavash was forced to grope her when he was unwilling to do so..

so a kiss and some lingering glances from time to time hardly constitutes her playing a game. its too complex to explain but all it is,is both noirin and siavash felt a connection and then after a few weeks siavash distanced himself,so noirin went about her business in the house and a few nights ago they found themselves caught up in a passionate embrace (i sound like a 1930's romance novel still)

her smiling,to me just seemed as if she was nervous as to how to deal with these emotions and the recent turn of events.hardly blame her for feeling uneasy about things the way they stand at the moment..

most on here feel noirin has orchestrated this whole farce because she likes the attention,not that most of this was not in her control except the siavash situation.. so she kissed a guy and may be attracted to tom,i say again she hasnt acted on her feelings for tom so where is the crime?the fact that she was brave enough to speak about her dillema candidly with some housemates?ethics does not play a role as she hasn't really put a foot wrong (aside from some minor things like cuddles with marcus and what not)

lol brother get some sleep,the forum will still be here when you awake..

[setanta]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
Surely a slut is someone who sha*gs alot of men not just goes around and speaks to them

I don't think she's a slut.... well she's not a slut in there but I'd be surprised if she's not outside. I just think she's an uncaring, heartless, manipulative biŁ$h. She makes great tv but I despise the girl- always have and have been fully vindicated in my eyes by what has transpired over the course of the last two days. Don't get me wrong..... the lads are idiots but she know exactly what she's doing.

[setanta]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

lol im not sure about anyone else,but when i share a kiss with the other half i dont keep my hands on my hips you know..so ofcourse his hands would be around that area,unless your suggesting siavash was forced to grope her when he was unwilling to do so..

so a kiss and some lingering glances from time to time hardly constitutes her playing a game. its too complex to explain but all it is,is both noirin and siavash felt a connection and then after a few weeks siavash distanced himself,so noirin went about her business in the house and a few nights ago they found themselves caught up in a passionate embrace (i sound like a 1930's romance novel still)

her smiling,to me just seemed as if she was nervous as to how to deal with these emotions and the situation.hardly blame her for feeling uneasy about the complex recent turn of events..

most on here feel noirin has orchestrated this whole farce because she likes the attention,not that most of this was not in her control except the siavash situation.. so she kissed a guy and may be attracted to tom,i say again she hasnt acted on her feelings for tom so where is the crime?the fact that she was brave enough to speak about her dillema candidly with some housemates?ethics does not play a role as she hasn't really put a foot wrong (aside from some minor things like cuddles with marcus and what not)

lol brother get some sleep,the forum will still be here when you awake..

Yeah I'm knackered. YOu seem like a nice guy , and I never want to offend, but on the subject of Noirin our paths diverge. She's heartless and manipulative. Oh, and the boob grope wasn't that night.... it was earlier on in the day. The smiles were that of an attention seeker- not a shy, retiring sort of smile. I can't talk anymore right now...... I'm too tired and honestly can't understand how you don't see what a bitch-i'm sorry for using that word-she is.

Are you smitten by the looks and the accent? Be honest with me... has she bewitched you?

[Marc]

Originally posted by setanta

I don't think she's a slut.... well she's not a slut in there but I'd be surprised if she's not outside. I just think she's an uncaring, heartless, manipulative biŁ$h. She makes great tv but I despise the girl- always have and have been fully vindicated in my eyes by what has transpired over the course of the last two days. Don't get me wrong..... the lads are idiots but she know exactly what she's doing.

See I just can't see it. I think the guys are drawn to her like a moth to a flame and she just laps up the attention.

[setanta]

Originally posted by Marcjswp

See I just can't see it. I think the guys are drawn to her like a moth to a flame and she just laps up the attention.

Nah, she's well aware of the hold she has on guys- she embraces it. Sure you heard her on the vt, right? Doesn't that resemble what's going on right now in the house? The characteristics she provided herself with on that tape go hand in hand perfectly with her actions within the house. They fit too perfectly to deny it.

[Marc]

Originally posted by setanta

Nah, she's well aware of the hold she has on guys- she embraces it. Sure you heard her on the vt, right? Doesn't that resemble what's going on right now in the house? The characteristics she provided herself with on that tape go hand in hand perfectly with her actions within the house. They fit too perfectly to deny it.

LOL true... especially the 'if something better comes along i'll take it'

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by setanta

Yeah I'm knackered. YOu seem like a nice guy , and I never want to offend, but on the subject of Noirin our paths diverge. She's heartless and manipulative. Oh, and the boob grope wasn't that night.... it was earlier on in the day. The smiles were that of an attention seeker- not a shy, retiring sort of smile. I can't talk anymore right now...... I'm too tired and honestly can't understand how you don't see what a bitch-i'm sorry for using that word-she is.

Are you smitten by the looks and the accent? Be honest with me... has she bewitched you?

as stunning as i find noirin,her actions in the house have left much to be desired sadly i am spoken for so will not comment especially since my noirin shrine got taken down

not a problem since being on here i much prefer a coherant debate over purile insults anyway but i never find anything you have said offencive,not sure if its possible to be offended on here personally speaking..

i just feel noirin is getting a bad rap on here when infact siavash has made a move on noirin while having someone on the outside (im not going off hearsay,siavash actually told noirin he had been seeing someone for a month before he entered the house last night)

noirin may have a few admirers,but she has not acted on her feelings for any of them aside from siavash (which she is entitled to do).. also i understand she has put herself up to be judged by entering such a show,but she has done nothing more than enjoy her time in there and try to make the best of a bad situation..

i think she has been brave in speaking about her feelings in the house,and for telling marcus about the way things are with siavash.. something of which i feel she should be commended on doing..

[28thapril]

Never liked the girl it's obvious to me she's not fussy

1st angel - kissed
2nd lisa - on a promise for when she wants "the experience"
3rd sree - till he got booted
4th marcus - the continuous blanket for protection
5th siavash - kissing in bed and sly cuddles
6th tom - ??????

what can i say she'll make great prison meat to get her favours

[rsefitpro2009]

I don't like Noirin but it's not very nice calling some one a s**t! its a reality show and i just think its not necessary coming out with stuff like that!

That said i am not a fan of hers and the thing her and Siavash have going, i don't like as it's disrespectful and unkind to Siavash's girlfriend.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by 28thapril
Never liked the girl it's obvious to me she's not fussy

1st angel - kissed
2nd lisa - on a promise for when she wants "the experience"
3rd sree - till he got booted
4th marcus - the continuous blanket for protection
5th siavash - kissing in bed and sly cuddles
6th tom - ??????

what can i say she'll make great prison meat to get her favours

lol i see you have compiled noirins hitlist.. the only victim if ever there was one,is siavash surely?so by that summary,angel and lisa's were done in jest. and marcus/sree took it upon themselves to persue noirin after she repeatedly told them to do one. although must agree,on paper it doesn't look too good

[jjj2]

Setanta it a good thing no one pays any attention to your sad repetitive posts about an evil Noirin that only exists in your head ,Stop being so twisted and Bitter because the house mates would not see Noirin the way you want them to see her. The most of them like her the way she is

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by jjj2
Setanta it a good thing no one pays any attention to your sad repetitive posts about an evil Noirin that only exists in your head ,Stop being so twisted and Bitter because the house mates would not see Noirin the way you want them to see her. The most of them like her the way she is

lets get this crystal clear,your on a forum,you may not find everyone subscribing to your ideas but dont go having a dig at others for having a slightly diffrent take on things..

so lets try and keep things positive if you'd be so kind..

[setanta]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

as stunning as i find noirin,her actions in the house have left much to be desired sadly i am spoken for so will not comment especially since my noirin shrine got taken down

not a problem since being on here i much prefer a coherant debate over purile insults anyway but i never find anything you have said offencive,not sure if its possible to be offended on here personally speaking..

i just feel noirin is getting a bad rap on here when infact siavash has made a move on noirin while having someone on the outside (im not going off hearsay,siavash actually told noirin he had been seeing someone for a month before he entered the house last night)

noirin may have a few admirers,but she has not acted on her feelings for any of them aside from siavash (which she is entitled to do).. also i understand she has put herself up to be judged by entering such a show,but she has done nothing more than enjoy her time in there and try to make the best of a bad situation..

i think she has been brave in speaking about her feelings in the house,and for telling marcus about the way things are with siavash.. something of which i feel she should be commended on doing..

Sorry, she has no defense as far as her actions go. She is not a lovely girl - she is well aware of the power she has over men. How long did she drag Sree and Marcus along? How often did she toy with them? Look at what she's done to Siavash! They're not without fault here but tell me this, who holds the power in all those bonds? She does...every single time.

Another question for you...... imagine for a moment that a man acted like she has in the house of late. Imagine somebody like Kris had operated like this, cutting down a girl only 24 hours after they'd been kissing and holding and staring into each others eyes. AFter he had asked to lie with her. How would you react then?

I honestly think you're just besotted with her and cant see the wood for the trees. She a champion manipulator as her vt proves and she cares not a jot for anyone but herself. Is it the Irish accent? See I have the good fortune of living very close to where Noirin hails from and I'm accustomed to the accent. I'll tell you this for free.... she has the whiniest most insincere voice you will ever come across.

[setanta]

Originally posted by jjj2
Setanta it a good thing no one pays any attention to your sad repetitive posts about an evil Noirin that only exists in your head ,Stop being so twisted and Bitter because the house mates would not see Noirin the way you want them to see her. The most of them like her the way she is

Do you just come online to have digs at people and not actually involve yourself in some adult discourse? You just randomly appear and spout off some random nonsense.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by setanta

Sorry, she has no defense as far as her actions go. She is not a lovely girl - she is well aware of the power she has over men. How long did she drag Sree and Marcus along? How often did she toy with them? Look at what she's done to Siavash! They're not without fault here but tell me this, who holds the power in all those bonds? She does...every single time.

Another question for you...... imagine for a moment that a man acted like she has in the house of late. Imagine somebody like Kris had operated like this, cutting down a girl only 24 hours after they'd been kissing and holding and staring into each others eyes. AFter he had asked to lie with her. How would you react then?

I honestly think you're just besotted with her and can see the wood for the trees. She a champion manipulator as her vt proves and she cares not a jot for anyone but herself. Is it the Irish accent? See I have the good fortune of living very close to where Noirin hails from and I'm accustomed to the accent. I'll tell you this for free.... she has the whiniest most insincere voice you will ever come across.

lol her voice is mad whiney tbf..

my take on it was yes she is the common denominator in each situation,but that means nothing.. as she did not drag both sree and marcus along,they fell for her,and she told them not to persist or she would sever all ties..how does that go with what your saying?

now if i go by your analagy,kris falling for sophie and kissing her,then telling her he should cool things down and wait till she is out of the house would seem fair enough to me.. i repeat once more to you brother,she has done nothing but kiss one guy.. you cant be seriosly saying she has made guys fall for her?

if she has that power im sure she would not be single outside of the house,i think people see what they want,and when they see a beautiful strong opinionated woman who is comfortable with her sexuality and not afraid to express it,they see a slut or a manipulator..

i would agree with you,had she kissed marcus,then kissed sree,then got rid of them and moved on to siavash but that is simply not the case bro..

[setanta]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

lol her voice is mad whiney tbf..

my take on it was yes she is the common denominator in each situation,but that means nothing.. as she did not drag both sree and marcus along,they fell for her,and she told them not to persist or she would sever all ties..how does that go with what your saying?

now if i go by your analagy,kris falling for sophie and kissing her,then telling her he should cool things down and wait till she is out of the house would seem fair enough to me.. i repeat once more to you brother,she has done nothing but kiss one guy.. you cant be seriosly saying she has made guys fall for her?

if she has that power im sure she would not be single outside of the house,i think people see what they want,and when they see a beautiful strong opinionated woman who is comfortable with her sexuality and not afraid to express it,they see a slut or a manipulator..

i would agree with you,had she kissed marcus,then kissed sree,then got rid of them and moved on to siavash but that is simply not the case bro..

This is driving me mad. I cannot see how anybody can really defend her now after all thats occured and how on so many occasions she reveals her true feelings for people...... that being no feelings. Ok, and example.... last night- when she confronted Marcus over everything she called him a good friend..... you said it yourself that he's a good friend to her. Poppycock as Marcus would say- last night in a convo with Tom she said that she only hung around with him cuz there was nobody else!! She also said that she would avoid Siavash and just go for Tom right now if it was the real world. Oh, it's driving me mad that you can't see how devious and devoid of empathy the girl is.

She also said that she went for Siavash probably becuz she was getting bored in house...... now Tom is around. This echo's everything she stated in the vt. There is absolutely no way to not see this. This is no mere coincidence. And she did string the pair of them along until she had absolutely no option but to tell them what the story was. She still called them her "friends" but was always quick to denounce their behaviour when in the company of other housemates. AHHHH I'm done for now.