[OnlyMoronsVote]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

If I want to solve a maths problem, I would consult a mathematician.

If I want to solve an economics problem, I would consult an economist.

If I want to solve a moral issue, I would consult a priest.

If one wants a great show, why consult the public by letting them vote? They are not specialists at analysing, evaluating and critiquing what is good/bad for the show. They are ordinary folk, with below average IQ's and unqualified insight.

There-in lies the problem. 'Giving children grenades can be deadly.'

The only real solution, as I keep saying, is to simply allow channel4 to keep their revenue via task voting, that way, everyone's a winner. Channel4 get their money, the plebs can keep voting, and the great housemates (yes, ''badies'' if you will) get to stay and provide quality tv.

It is a downright farce that Endemol/Channel4 haven't woken up yet. They've had 9 years (yes, 9, not 10 to those who still think it's the 10th birthday) to figure this one out. You would have thought they would have reached this (obviously sensible) conclusion back in BB2

[Caramel77]

Op- why do you feel that if you're vociferous enough on here things will change? Surely C4 should be the object of your diatribe?

[OnlyMoronsVote]

One thing I just can't believe is the overwhelming rejection of my fantastic thread The Ultimate Question. It makes for essential reading if one is to wake up and smell the coffee.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by OnlyMoronsVote
One thing I just can't believe is the overwhelming rejection of my fantastic thread The Ultimate Question. It makes for essential reading if one is to wake up and smell the coffee.

Get over yourself, your idea has no substance watch Im a celebrity thats what the show would be like if we used your theory.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

I agree with the OP that the voters can ruin the show by voting out the entertaining people.
How do people get evicted though if voters can only vote on tasks?

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

I agree with Ahmedfans Views

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
You dont get it at all do you. Your like Kenneth, who was willing to forgo his morals in order to get what he wanted. You would quite happily sit infront of your tv watching bad people do bad things, until when, where is your line in the sand.

But everyone on this board is watching it. Why watch if you dislike it? Denial at liking the baddies?

Originally posted by PaulyJWould you allow bullying Hm's to survive because they are fun to watch?, what about Agressive Alex from last year?

The point is, yes, because it's entertainment. BB will intervene and get rid of HMs who deserve to be punished. That's their job.

Originally posted by PaulyJTheir are more important things than damn entertainment.

Well what's the point to BB, then? It's an entertainment show, not a moralic doctrine, so why are you watching?

Since there are more important things, why aren't you saving the environment or being a samaritan instead?

This moral code seems misplaced on a cheap C4 reality show.

Originally posted by PaulyJIt was classic BB last night loved every minute, but i nor my voting finger are slaves to my appetite for entertainment. I would suggest that fact makes me less plebic than yourself.

It makes you contradictory and in denial about what you appreciate on the show.

Your logic is terrible; you watch it to be entertained, a form of relaxation and pleasure, yet you punish entertainment and reduce it?!

You enjoy 'baddies' but rationalize to yourself you're holy and that you hate them, by voting them out. You're in denial; you watch them keenly and invest your time/effort/energy/emotion into them. You don't care or bother as much with bores.

You are rationalizing and being delusional. Liking 'baddies' and watching them attentatively, but then voting them out as if you're a priest. Weird.

PS: Do you not care about having an entertaining show then?

[OnlyMoronsVote]

Originally posted by LethalDealer
I agree with the OP that the voters can ruin the show by voting out the entertaining people.
How do people get evicted though if voters can only vote on tasks?

I have addressed this before actually. But just to repeat; the idea is to have no evictions for the first 10/11 weeks, but then, as the series draws to a close, have the evictions in 2-3. That way, you ensure BB stays entertaining, instead of dull/stale.

And Iceman is wrong about it turning into I'm a celeb, as this would still be Big Brother, only finely tuned as to stop the vote-beciles voting out great housemates. It's a simple concept that should have been implemented years ago

[Iceman]

Originally posted by OnlyMoronsVote

I have addressed this before actually. But just to repeat; the idea is to have no evictions for the first 10/11 weeks, but then, as the series draws to a close, have the evictions in 2-3. That way, you ensure BB stays entertaining, instead of dull/stale.

And Iceman is wrong about it turning into I'm a celeb, as this would still be Big Brother, only finely tuned as to stop the vote-beciles voting out great housemates. It's a simple concept that should have been implemented years ago

Well I dont think you can call my opinion wrong, if you look at the similarities, you've basically just turned BB into IACGMOOH.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by OnlyMoronsVote
It is a downright farce that Endemol/Channel4 haven't woken up yet. They've had 9 years (yes, 9, not 10 to those who still think it's the 10th birthday) to figure this one out. You would have thought they would have reached this (obviously sensible) conclusion back in BB2

I don't know why, it's all very mysterious to me. Especially since viewing figures have declined since their glory days of BB5.

Entertaining yet controversial HMs rake in the viewers, yet a lot of these viewers and fans also vote them out.

It's logically erroneous, because they watch BB for pleasure, yet they then punish this by removing the HMs giving them that pleasure.

The reasons are, most voters are women, and most voters for BB are not intelligent. So they will sit there being entertained by these HMs, but also evict them; they do this to rationalize to themselves that they are good, moralic and actually hate the 'baddies'. But it's false, because they are engrossed to watch them.

But what can you do? Democracy is a shambles. It's like giving weapons to children. Ooopsy!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Iceman
Well I dont think you can call my opinion wrong, if you look at the similarities, you've basically just turned BB into IACGMOOH.

Like I said, you can go one of two ways.

Keep in the baddies for an entertaining show.
Keep in the goodies to uphold any morals you have.

The issue with the latter is the hypocrisy and false logic; you are actually engrossed in watching the baddies, invest your time/energy/money/emotion on them, and value their presence on your screen.

But with the former option (keep 'em in), it's all consistent. You watch them, you're entertained by them, so you keep them in to have more.

Simple.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

Like I said, you can go one of two ways.

Keep in the baddies for an entertaining show.
Keep in the goodies to uphold any morals you have.

The issue with the latter is the hypocrisy and false logic; you are actually engrossed in watching the baddies, invest your time/energy/money/emotion on them, and value their presence on your screen.

But with the former option (keep 'em in), it's all consistent. You watch them, you're entertained by them, so you keep them in to have more.

Simple.

I agree that the most entertaining g to soon, what I wasn' agreeing with him about was that he didn't elaborate and just insulted us all for a few days....It could work but will never be considered IMO...

[TheModsHereSuck]

My advice here was excellent. I've offered a fantastic solution to the problem yet it falls on deaf ears. Pitiful.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by TheModsHereSuck
My advice here was excellent. I've offered a fantastic solution to the problem yet it falls on deaf ears. Pitiful.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Iceman

I agree that the most entertaining g to soon, what I wasn' agreeing with him about was that he didn't elaborate and just insulted us all for a few days....It could work but will never be considered IMO...

As they said, it's all about how you say it.

I am actually in favour of nobody being evicted for ages. More HMs the better. The more personalities and stories, the better.

The smaller the group, the less goes on. Some say, well the stories get deeper and the HMs can get closer to each other ... but groups, closeness and stories form anyway even when there's 16 HMs.

More the better. People should vote for cool tasks instead. Better option IMO.

Then the places announced, 16 to 1st, on the final night.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by TheModsHereSuck
My advice here was excellent. I've offered a fantastic solution to the problem yet it falls on deaf ears. Pitiful.

Get used to it dude, how do you think I felt when Sree left? I was a broken man.

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by OnlyMoronsVote

Why can't we enjoy the boos in the final 3 weeks? (when evictions really should take place).

I can't understand the idiotic mentality of BB voters; surely all entertaining housemates should stay (by default) for 95%-99% of the entire duration, with votes going on tasks instead of evictions.

Sheesh, I despair at the ''logic'' on here

Thats your opinion you may like watching Marcus on the TV. I'd rather see him out for the idiot he is. Thats more entertaining to me. It would be entertaining to see the house dynamic without him.

[Twiggy]

The biggest entertainment to me is to see the nasties get kicked out and brought down a peg or two. I would rather see that than have to sit up all hours of the night hoping they will shoot themselves in the foot to get voted out next eviction.

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by Twiggy
The biggest entertainment to me is to see the nasties get kicked out and brought down a peg or two. I would rather see that than have to sit up all hours of the night hoping they will shoot themselves in the foot to get voted out next eviction.

Exactly