[preformat2000]

Originally posted by cammie

nice logic.

(and sleeping with other people outside of a commited relationship doesn't count as cheating either - it is merely an indication that you would like meet new people and explore new places and maybe find a new form of self-expression)

sleeping with others outside of a commited relationship IS cheating as long as you tried to hide it from your partner, but if you have done it while you are certain that they will know about it, I don't see how that can be called cheating. cheating usually has a secret nature, if you take away that secrecy then it is more of an indirect break up.

[cammie]

Originally posted by preformat2000

sleeping with others outside of a commited relationship IS cheating as long as you tried to hide it from your partner, but if you have done it while you are certain that they will know about it, I don't see how that can be called cheating. cheating usually has a secret nature, if you take away that secrecy then it is more of an indirect break up.

omg you're a fool! are you by any chance beas mum?

[preformat2000]

Originally posted by cammie

omg you're a fool! are you by any chance beas mum?

if you wanna have a logical debate, I am up for it. but if you wanna type whatever comes out of that fart hole, so called your mouth, then this will be my last reply to your posts.

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by cammie

I apologize. what I meant to say is that: I disagree...with the above posters point

there ya go!

...any you disagree with which point exactly and WHY???

[cammie]

Originally posted by Insane_Spirit

...any you disagree with which point exactly and WHY???

the third point (to the left) twice removed. because when I read it I think it is wrong

[Sunny_Tsu]

According to Noirin she only kissed Siavash once and she was drunk at the time.

Such a heartless liar.

[cammie]

Originally posted by preformat2000

if you wanna have a logical debate, I am up for it. but if you wanna type whatever comes out of that fart hole, so called your mouth, then this will be my last reply to your posts.

okay well in my opinion if you are in a relationship with someone and you kiss/sleep with someone else, then that constitutes cheating. (regardless if your partner knows or not.) thousands of people know about their partners 'affairs' and choose to ignore it, I bet they would call it cheating so imo whether it is done openly or in secret if it is done without the consent of both people in the relationship it counts as cheating.

......and that is my last fart on this issue

[preformat2000]

Originally posted by cammie

okay well in my opinion if you are in a relationship with someone and you kiss/sleep with someone else, then that constitutes cheating. (regardless if your partner knows or not.) thousands of people know about their partners 'affairs' and choose to ignore it, I bet they would call it cheating so imo whether it is done openly or in secret if it is done without the consent of both people in the relationship it counts as cheating.

......and that is my last fart on this issue

I see your point, but in my opinion, I think Siavash's case is a bit different, we should also consider other factors like, it was such a short time that they were dating before Siavash going into the house.


and I am also sorry about my rude comment, it only was a reaction to be called a fool.

[rsefitpro2009]

Originally posted by JustKaz
Also you are forgetting, her 'confusion' over realising she actually did fancy Tom... If your not looking for a realationship, and your confused over your ex, why the hell did she add to it by getting confused over Siavash and Tome within two days?

Yes Siavash was in the wrong too, but at least he pondered/held back for 5 weeks or so before letting out how he felt, Thurs falling straight into her trap, when he was unaware the next day she wants Tom.

He still cheated on his girlfreind though? What annoys me is that if that was Freddie? he would get slated for it and hated, but as it's Siavash it seems to be acceptable?

Could somebody explain to me why fans like Siavash even though he did what he did with Noirin?

Maybe i am missing something I don't know? but it is all a bit odd that him cheating on his girlfriend (which he did) seems to be acceptable?

[setanta]

Originally posted by ange7

"Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted"
no ... when Siavash commited he thought she was in 100%... not just cuddles. He wouldn't have put it all on the line ( gf and Marcus) just for a maybe. He kept asking if they were on the same page...she said yeah. Once he commited she spilled the beans to all, showed him off like a trophy and said "nah... just cuddles thanks". She only made it clear AFTER he'd commited. He'd fallen for her, he was genuine.... it didn't mean sh*t to her.

I agree- she was completely aware as to how much this whole thing meant to Siavash and she carried on anyway: they even spoke about it while kissing in bed. How convenient for her that she suddenly became inflicted with selective amnesia after the event, creating a situation where it was all Siavash's fault. Typical of the woman to brush all trace of responsibility away from herself and, of course, she did it all right in front of the cameras. Does she think we're stupid?

[cammie]

Originally posted by preformat2000

I see your point, but in my opinion, I think Siavash's case is a bit different, we should also consider other factors like, it was such a short time that they were dating before Siavash going into the house.


and I am also sorry about my rude comment, it only was a reaction to be called a fool.

thats ok - i was in a bit of a lazy mood earlier and just couldn't be bothered to type out my opinion so my replies were very flippant

- in regard to how long or short a time they spent together if they had started a relationship and liked eachother enough to call eachother 'boyfriend' and 'girlfriend' (there is some confusion over this too) then he ended what potentially could have been something good by cheating. It may hurt a little less as they were just starting out and hadn't been dating for years, but it is still cheating all the same.

- and sorry for calling you a fool, it was very rude of me -