[Prole]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Yeah, and the difference between them is... you don't fancy any of the others. Right?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele
I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.

Originally posted by ViaVerde

Yeah, and the difference between them is... you don't fancy any of the others. Right?

Wrong hence my favourite

[Fangz]

Originally posted by Tom

Not at all, but why does Noirin get all the stick?

Noirin's behaviour has had more of a negative effect on the house, and she shows no regret.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Sophie does not sleep about on the outside. She has only slept with and kissed two men before the house.

Siavash did cheat on an imaginary girlfriend - meaning he is a liar and also duplicitous fool.

Bea does sleep around and is manipulative.

Freddie and Marcus are Pervs, yes.

Noirin on the other hand has used sex as a weapon. She has openly led people on in the house.

You know, everyone wants to have sex. We all do - but when somebody teases and toys people for their own satisfaction then that person is far worse because to recover from such behaviour isn't easy.

This does make her the worst in the house but we've seen more of her. I would say Marcus and Siavash are just as bad and Freddie has never slept with more than 2 people in his whole life.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Fangz

Noirin's behaviour has had more of a negative effect on the house, and she shows no regret.

But the majority of the negativity hasn't come from her, it has come from the men perving over her when she has said she isn't interested. Thats what set Sree off, thats what made Marcus worse and eventually when the whole Siavash thing came out, also set Marcus off.

[alc09]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Hello Dennis.

[Tom]

Originally posted by MassiveTruck

Sophie does not sleep about on the outside. She has only slept with and kissed two men before the house.

Siavash did cheat on an imaginary girlfriend - meaning he is a liar and also duplicitous fool.

Bea does sleep around and is manipulative.

Freddie and Marcus are Pervs, yes.

Noirin on the other hand has used sex as a weapon. She has openly led people on in the house.

You know, everyone wants to have sex. We all do - but when somebody teases and toys people for their own satisfaction then that person is far worse because to recover from such behaviour isn't easy.

This does make her the worst in the house but we've seen more of her. I would say Marcus and Siavash are just as bad and Freddie has never slept with more than 2 people in his whole life.

I was talking about Kris, not Sophie.

How do you know she is imaginary?

How exactly has she teased and used them?

Freddie has also said he has slept with more than 2. I remember a conversation in the garden about it.

[Tom]

Originally posted by alc09

Hello Dennis.

Nice try, but I'm not Dennis.

[alc09]

Anyway Tom, Noirin will be gone on Friday.

[yousoboo!]

Noirin uses people for her own advantage

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Tom

How exactly has she played with their minds? It was Sree and Marcus who couldn't take no for an answer.

I agree with you there Tom. Have people forgotten how Marcus plays with other peoples minds? Even Siavash was a little terrified to approach him - and this is because Marcus was playing mind games. Marcus and Sree as good as stalked her and then Siavash was also doing the same. I didn't see any of these three stalking Lisa.

[Chantel]

Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

We all do at some point

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.

Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

[Tom]

Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

[Novo]

She is a filthy vile *****.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Cybele

Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

These HMs that she so called hurt are adults who should have known better. They decided to go after her likes bees to honey not the other way round.

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Fair comment, but i think because people are seeing the hurt she has caused (though I dont totally agree she to blame for Marcus hurt) she is not liked for that, no body likes to see anyone hurting or upset, and it really does come across that Noirin does not care for the upset she has caused.

I dont hate her, I dont think she deserves the nasty names, but she is not a nice person and she uses her looks just like she stated she would.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele

Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

By saying about Marcus and Sree and hurt feelings, its hardly Noirins fault if they fancied her and she wasn't interested?

[Cybele]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing

These HMs that she so called hurt are adults who should have known better. They decided to go after her likes bees to honey not the other way round.

Sorry, but you didn't answer the question. And you know why? Because you CAN'T answer the question without lying. Noirin has had more of a negative effect on other housemates than ANY of the other housemates. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not she is a slut. It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that she has been toxic to the house.

So really you are the one being a hypocrite if you can never concede any point which is not in favor of Noirin.

[Arneldo]

At the end of the day, Noirin is the star of the show. She may be going home 58 days in, but she has created so many story lines and BB10 was always brilliant when noirin was running the show.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Oh Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - I'm going for a fag by the bus stop. Norin to stay.

[Jayson]

Originally posted by .Andy.
She is a filthy vile *****.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele

And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.

First of all, no matter how many reasons I and others give you, your mind is not open to anything that is not in Noirin's favor, so I won't bother.

As to your second comment, I beg to differ. Whenever someone who was disliked came up for eviction, they left. Even Kenneth, who was too cowardly to face eviction, would have been evicted anyway. So if Bea is sewing bad seeds, then that will come back to haunt her if she comes up for eviction. But currently, Noirin and Marcus are in the hot seats. And there are certainly a lot of threads both for and against both of them. One of them will be dealt with tomorrow.