[Len_Brennan]

I think there is merit in bothsides of the arguement on here and also wrongdoing on the part of both Marcus and David.

It should have been a group decision in this case. Sometimes the house is asked "Will one housemate come to the diary room?" No issue there, David or anyone could have gone in without consultation. But this time they were asked for who they considered to be the most judgemental. David was wrong to just go in himself. It should have been a group decision.

Marcus, however was wrong in his selfish view however. As he considers himself the best at every possible thing - stuff that doesn't even exist yet - he will always expect to be the one to go to the diary room and he can't conceive of anyone else going. Additionally, Hira, Sophie or Charlie will never speak up even if they think someone else is a better option. So with Freddie & Siavash likely to suggest Marcus, it will appear as a house decision, when an actual headcount is not taken. That's why he is so confident (while selfish) in wanting a house decision.

By the way, I like Marcus & think he is probably the best option, or one of maybe 1 or 2, in most cases. Remember what happened when Hira had her task for example.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by Len_Brennan
Marcus, however was wrong in his selfish view however. As he considers himself the best at every possible thing - stuff that doesn't even exist yet

And he really does!

[Kaaren!]

hes always been a plonker and a twat lol

[Marc]

I thought Marcus would be fine if Noirin left, but he is taking his time to get back to his old self

[bbsuperfanmadmackers]

marcus isnt a plonker he stands up for his beliefs he isnt going to win the show no way but i want david and lisa out before him

[delta]

Originally posted by VickyJ

This.

Thought it wasnt exactly the majority, but others wanted marcus to go, david just selected himself and flounced his way out the door whilst it was still being decided who should go.

Should have been a group decision, not down to one person.

How the hell can it be a democratic group decision when the group is being controlled by an egomaniac?

Marcus is dillusional, as are most of the other house mates in one way or another. All wannabees not having the actual skill to set them above the rest of their peers, that's why they -for the most- go into BB.

It's their short cut to instant fame.


Getting back to Marcus, he pretended to protect Noirin from Sree, then moved in and isolated her from the group. Then the control kicked in, filling her head with all kinds of sh*t.

The incident when Tom came in, somebody remotely normal and it was understandable that Noirin, a reasonable normal girl in a house full of freaks, would gravitate to someone such as the new fella. How Marcus did everything in his power to kee them apart, to the point where they couldn't talk with each other.

" Can you come up to me and give me a kiss, not just a peck a full blown kiss and then sit on my knee, in front of him. Just to give him a bloody nose so to speak?"

To Noirin, I think she was genuinely fcuked off in the end and glad to go, a house full of players. Yeah, she shacked up with Siavish for a while, but she made it clear from the outset that nothing was going to come of it and it was all a bit of good honest fun. He fell head over heals with her, his fault, not hers. Now he appears to be over playing his 'victim' card. FFS, grow some balls, dust yer sen down and get on with life.


I hope David backs up his words with deeds, "Hey Lisa, I might be a Queen, but I am one fiesty Queen, and I ain't scared of no one: I tell you no one, Lisa. If that Marcus thinks he can rule the roost then he better think again, I am more man than he will ever be"


Not bad- hey. For someone who ain't going to watch the programme as much.

[Vicky.]

Delta...why bring all that stuff up, in a simple debate about what happened on last nights HL show? Seriously.

The best thing to do would have been everyone vote who they chose to go to the DR. Chances are it wouldnt have been marcus anyway, but freddie...

Its just that david immediately elected himself and disappeared before anyoen could say anything. Thats gotta be annoying...

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by delta

How the hell can it be a democratic group decision when the group is being controlled by an egomaniac?

Marcus is dillusional, as are most of the other house mates in one way or another. All wannabees not having the actual skill to set them above the rest of their peers, that's why they -for the most- go into BB.

It's their short cut to instant fame.


Getting back to Marcus, he pretended to protect Noirin from Sree, then moved in and isolated her from the group. Then the control kicked in, filling her head with all kinds of sh*t.

The incident when Tom came in, somebody remotely normal and it was understandable that Noirin, a reasonable normal girl in a house full of freaks, would gravitate to someone such as the new fella. How Marcus did everything in his power to kee them apart, to the point where they couldn't talk with each other.

" Can you come up to me and give me a kiss, not just a peck a full blown kiss and then sit on my knee, in front of him. Just to give him a bloody nose so to speak?"

To Noirin, I think she was genuinely fcuked off in the end and glad to go, a house full of players. Yeah, she shacked up with Siavish for a while, but she made it clear from the outset that nothing was going to come of it and it was all a bit of good honest fun. He fell head over heals with her, his fault, not hers. Now he appears to be over playing his 'victim' card. FFS, grow some balls, dust yer sen down and get on with life.


I hope David backs up his words with deeds, "Hey Lisa, I might be a Queen, but I am one fiesty Queen, and I ain't scared of no one: I tell you no one, Lisa. If that Marcus thinks he can rule the roost then he better think again, I am more man than he will ever be"


Not bad- hey. For someone who ain't going to watch the programme as much.

Brilliant!!

Suspect most Marcus fans are hypocrites because I bet they wouldn't like Marcus mauling them/girlfriends/sisters etc.

Whatever Noirin did or didn't do (according to opinion) -NEVER justifies Marcus trying to take advantage sexually!!

I find people's (especially womens) excuses for his behaviour even more worrying!! What does that say about our society!!

[Vicky.]

Commonsense...i wish you would live up to your username.

That is all.

[hennessy]

I truly believe that if David was in Lisa's group early days he would've been the worse one bullying freddy.
He has no thoughts but the one people give him.
plus he's stalking VW

[HarryRag]

Originally posted by tpau21
how jealous was he cuz he didnt get chosen and didnt have everyone licking his feet for the most judgemental housemate

yes and i know all you marcus fans are gonnna rage at this forums cuz u aint got anything better to do

BUT HE IS A t***

WGAS what you are saying

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Commonsense...i wish you would live up to your username.

That is all.

I do - and have been told so on several occasions!!

Obviously a Marcus supporter is going to try and put down these opinions!!!

[hennessy]

What Commonsense??
I wouldn't want anyone mauling my sister.
Noirin gave no sympathy for the men she discarded (siavash etc)
almost everyone in the house was in the general opinion that she wasn't nice.
Give David time, you'll find out how nasty he can be.
He didn't like Marcus because Marcus didn't give 100% love for him when he 1st entered.
you'll put this down as a typical Marcus fan (I don't think he should win)
but you're a jaded deluded noirin fan

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

I do - and have been told so on several occasions!!

Obviously a Marcus supporter is going to try and put down these opinions!!!

Because you mostly talk crap...

I hate that people make marcus out to be some kind of sexual predator.

If noirin felt that uncomfortable by his actions, she would have complained to BB, and even lodged a complaint when she left the house...if it was anywhere near as serious as people on here make out.

Didnt bother her, so why on earth should it bother you?

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Because you mostly talk cr*p...

I hate that people make marcus out to be some kind of sexual predator.

If noirin felt that uncomfortable by his actions, she would have complained to BB, and even lodged a complaint when she left the house...if it was anywhere near as serious as people on here make out.

Didnt bother her, so why on earth should it bother you?

It would hardly have been surprising if she had felt concerned about making an official complaint (if she had felt that way) - as bearing in mind the depth of bad feeling towards her from a lot of the public - she may have felt intimidated out of doing so is case she was blamed and viliified even more!

Many cases of rape go unreported for that very reason!!!!

[hennessy]

Commonsense you have failed.
How can you compare rape to a bloke who wants hugs and tried to get frisky when having a drink. plonker
are you david in disguise?

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Commonsense you have failed.
How can you compare rape to a bloke who wants hugs and tried to get frisky when having a drink. plonker
are you david in disguise?

He admitted he plied her with drink to try and "have his wicked way with her" unquote. If he had succeeded - that would have been rape!! In a more vulnerable girl - less able to stand up for herself - who knows!

You just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!

[hennessy]

3 cans of cider.
plus she was more than capable of standing up for herself.
But while you're going on imaginary scenerios why didn't you throw in...he had a knife, she was on the pinball table etc...

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Commonsense you have failed.
How can you compare rape to a bloke who wants hugs and tried to get frisky when having a drink. plonker

Exactly.

And if it had bothered her in the house, she would have complained to BB. Which she didnt. So why does everyone else think she was practically molested?!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

He admitted he plied her with drink to try and "have his wicked way with her" unquote. If he had succeeded - that would have been rape!! In a more vulnerable girl - less able to stand up for herself - who knows!

You just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!

No we dont, because we dont have such a warped mind where if someone gives somone else 3 cans of cider, then cuddles them, this turns into getting them mortal and raping them.

Normal people dont think like this

[jelous_guy]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
a bloke who wants hugs and tried to get frisky when having a drink.

-
that sounds exactly like a potential rapist. Or at best a Moron who causes sexual harrasment. EXACTLY like the moron that is stinky tooth Marcus.

he has spent too long masterbating and playing with action figures: pent up anger and having delusions about reality.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No we dont, because we dont have such a warped mind where if someone gives somone else 3 cans of cider, then cuddles them, this turns into getting them mortal and raping them.

Normal people dont think like this

He admitted it!! What more do you want!!

Can't be seen to believe it - otherwise how could you justify defending him?

The warped ones are the ones that defend that kind of behaviour!! My point exactly!!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by jelous_guy

-
that sounds exactly like a potential rapist. Or at best a Moron who causes sexual harrasment. EXACTLY like the moron that is stinky tooth Marcus.

he has spent too long masterbating and playing with action figures: pent up anger and having delusions about reality.

In that case 90% of the male population are potential rapists

What bloke doesnt get a bit frisky after a drink...

[hennessy]

than I narrowly missed being raped by a bird who did this to me friday!!
jelous_guy you sound disturbed

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

He admitted it!! What more do you want!!

Can't be seen to believe it - otherwise how could you justify defending him?

The warped ones are the ones that defend that kind of behaviour!! My point exactly!!

He never ever admitted he was going to rape her.

At all.

You are warped in your blind hatred for the guy. You will turn any situation into a chance to have a rant about him, which is quite frankly, pathetic.