[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Yes, I think we can be fairly confident that sense will prevail as he exposed his true self. Freddie does NOT deserve to win.

Would totally agree with that The_Long_Run, i've really gone off him since Bea in, cause he follow her around like lost puppy, but after last night the way he behaved with Lisa & David it was just vile, i hate as much as i hate Marcus now.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Would totally agree with that The_Long_Run, i've really gone off him since Bea in, cause he follow her around like lost puppy, but after last night the way he behaved with Lisa & David it was just vile, i hate as much as i hate Marcus now.

Ditto !

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Blink_Me

And Rachel and Cameron deserved to win it?

Your logic is flawed. What I said was Freddie does NOT deserve to win. (This because he has done unforgivable thngs). He should be out of consideration his actions mean he does not deserve it

Neither Rachel nor Cameron did anything to make then not deserve to win. (They did nothing unforgivable). Hence they WERE in the mix and desrved to be there.


Clearly, this is my opinion only, but I am confident it will be a majority opinion.

[bigbrother10uk]

hopefully not

[PooBay]

A few weeks ago it was his to throw away..now he's got a little work to do.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Your logic is flawed. What I said was Freddie does NOT deserve to win. (This because he has done unforgivable thngs). He should be out of consideration his actions mean he does not deserve it

Neither Rachel nor Cameron did anything to make then not deserve to win. (They did nothing unforgivable). Hence they WERE in the mix and desrved to be there.


Clearly, this is my opinion only, but I am confident it will be a majority opinion.

Which person in there, apart from Hira, has done unforgivable things, though it could be argued even hira has lied to peoples faces...

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ

it wasnt a major event. it was an arguement, theres a big difference.

If he had STABBED lisa then yea, I could see your point, however, he laughed at her...not quite the same is it

There is none so blind as she who will not see.

Freddie was boorish, overbearing, arrogant and agressive. He showed his true colours. IN MY OPINION this was major event as he has not been explicitly himself until this point, though there have been clear indicators that those who have long doubted him have perceived.

The major event was that he exposed it to EVERYONE (except the blind).

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run


There is none so blind as she who will not see.

Freddie was boorish, overbearing, arrogant and agressive. He showed his true colours. IN MY OPINION this was major event as he has not been explicitly himself until this point, though there have been clear indicators that those who have long doubted him have perceived.

The major event was that he exposed it to EVERYONE (except the blind).

Of course it is your opinion, as a hater of freddie, that the side we saw to him last night was his true self coming out. Because it couldnt possibly be that he just snapped

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Of course it is your opinion, as a hater of freddie, that the side we saw to him last night was his true self coming out. Because it couldnt possibly be that he just snapped

So, you think his actions last night were acceptable?

I suspect the majority of right thinking peple would NOT consider his agression acceptable. Time will tell, when a man who was seen as a CLEAR favourite, fails to deliver the victory many had predicted.

[Twilight]

The_Long_Run you seem to think your always right and the fact is you haven't been right one time :P

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Which person in there, apart from Hira, has done unforgivable things, though it could be argued even hira has lied to peoples faces...

I'm not sure how to read that post?

Are you suggesting Hira has done unforgivable things? Bizarre.

I personally cannot forgive:-

1. Lisa for the way she treated Freddie in the beginning and being such an unnecessarily unpleasant character;
2. Freddie for being such an agressive an unnecessarily unpleasant character to certain individuals and belittling them;
3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;
4. Bea for her unfounded attacks on people and her agressive superiority designed to belittle people less fortunate than herself.

No knives were used, nobody was stabbed, but these actions should not be tolerated in a civilised society. In my opinion.

[davidalbert]

...lose some, gain some.........Nadia rowed in the House with Victor in BB5 and still won.......

[danu_schafer]

The Long Run......how was he aggressive when he was laughing? Lisa was more aggressive by shouting, her body language screamed that she was taking a more aggressive stance....he was just sat laughing!

I can't believe people have lost respect for Freddie when for the first time, he clearly stuck up for himself after all the crap from Kris and Karly and Lisa that he's took. It was only 3 weeks ago people were saying they wish some one would stand up to Lisa, now he has and everyone suddenly backs Lisa?

I was proud of Freddie last night! Go Halfwit, keep your chin up!

Siavash to win

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

So, you think his actions last night were acceptable?

I suspect the majority of right thinking peple would NOT consider his agression acceptable. Time will tell, when a man who was seen as a CLEAR favourite, fails to deliver the victory many had predicted.

Im sorry, I did not see any aggression whatsoever from freddie, quite the opposite, he was relatively calm and collected. He did look like a bit of a dick laughing on though, but in no way was he aggressive. I dont think you watch the same show as me, seriously...

[Vicky.]

'3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;'


PMSL she lead him on and was loving the attention

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Twilight
The_Long_Run you seem to think your always right and the fact is you haven't been right one time :P

Well, lets see if I can break the habits of a lifetime then and be right for the first time. Time alone will tell...


FREDDIE WILL NOT WIN.

This is not an opinion, it is a prediction. Wonder if I'll be right "for the first time".

[shash]

I think these statements that Freddie has shown his true colours are hasty and over the top judgements. It was not his finest hour, I freely admit, but 5 minutes like this from 8 or 9 weeks is probably a moment of madness or frustration getting the better of him, or he is a damn fine actor the rest of the time. Come on, we've all lost control of ourselves and what we say during a heated argument at least once in our lives, and that's without the pressure of sharing a big brother house with strangers who hate us.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Well, lets see if I can break the habits of a lifetime then and be right for the first time. Time alone will tell...


FREDDIE WILL NOT WIN.

This is not an opinion, it is a prediction. Wonder if I'll be right "for the first time".

I can happily say you won't be right

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ
'3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;'


PMSL she lead him on and was loving the attention

NO means NO! A woman who says so clearly NO, should be respected by her pursuer. Marcus assaulted her! He would not have got away with that sort of action outside the house.

(As an aside, I'm not sure what a heavy metal has to do with any sort of defence of his actions)

[halfacrown]

There wasn't any aggression from Freddie or bullying. He may have been like a dog with a bone, but if was amusing and it would have made a lot of people cheer. There was nothing like the chilling feeling that was felt when Lisa set her group against him.

They are all adults and although Lisa was wounded morally she'll survive, at least till Friday...

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by shash
I think these statements that Freddie has shown his true colours are hasty and over the top judgements. It was not his finest hour, I freely admit, but 5 minutes like this from 8 or 9 weeks is probably a moment of madness or frustration getting the better of him, or he is a damn fine actor the rest of the time. Come on, we've all lost control of ourselves and what we say during a heated argument at least once in our lives, and that's without the pressure of sharing a big brother house with strangers who hate us.

I know what I saw. ( and it was DEEPLY unpleasant)

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

NO means NO! A woman who says so clearly NO, should be respected by her pursuer. Marcus assaulted her! He would not have got away with that sort of action outside the house.

(As an aside, I'm not sure what a heavy metal has to do with any sort of defence of his actions)

If she had been bothered, she would have formally complained to BB, or to the police when she left.

She said no, but acted in a total different way.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

I know what I saw. ( and it was DEEPLY unpleasant)

Which just happens to be something totally different to the rest of us...as usual.

You see things from your own biased view, and some of your posts are very laughable because of this.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ

If she had been bothered, she would have formally complained to BB, or to the police when she left.

She said no, but acted in a total different way.

Yes, because his treatment of her was oppressive. The oppression was a bad part, the physical mauling he meted out, in spite of her saying NO, was an unforgivable part.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Course he can.

He hasnt lost as much support as the forums show.

It isnt just forums, everywere that has BB Fans have turned on him.

People offline who dont use forums have told me they turned on him too