[bansheewails]

Sorry I still Like Freddie (even more now) and Still dislike Lisa, I dont think there is anything Lisa could do now to mae me like her.

[nellysjade]

Im not a fan of lisa's but freddie has shown his true self since bea has cum in 2 the house (im not just talking about the argument)and peeps cant keep blaming bea 4 how he is

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by nellysjade
Im not a fan of lisa's but freddie has shown his true self since bea has cum in 2 the house (im not just talking about the argument)and peeps cant keep blaming bea 4 how he is

I dont blame her ,as much as i cannot stand her ,Freddie has hidden the real him HE is to blame

[J-Rock]

BBmassive - how can you say no one loved freddie more than you...when you've got Lisa as your fave? WTF?

[Twiggy]

Originally posted by oopaloompa
Sorry to disagree but Lisa is still worse. Not a brain cell in her head

Snobbery again. Brains don't make nice people. If she has no brain cells then she cannot be the manipulator that so many accuse her of being.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by BBmassive
No one loved Freddie more than me ,as i have said over and over on here IF bb had ended 3 or 4 weeks ago Freddie would have won ,but Thank God the show has lasted long enough for us to see the REAL him and it makes me see what a travesty it would have been if he had won

But you clearly didn't love him if you want him out so quickly. People seem to forget, basically the whole house was against him for the first 5 weeks, giving him a hard time. Now that he stood up for himself - yes in a bit of a childish way - and took on Lisa.... now you all hate him. And did you forget, only 3 people ever congratulated him when he survived eviction? Freddie had the decency to congratulate Lisa for surviving eviction, when he could have just ignored or told her to **** off.

The guy has every right to be cocky, considering he's survived 7 evictions. Yes, he shouldn't have acted that cocky, but I could understand what he meant by it. And from arguments, you tend to say and do stupid things, because your mindset is not 100%. I will agree that Freddie has gone a bit downhill since Bea has come in.

[halfacrown]

It's a long game, I don't get why people would change their minds if someone goes from bullied to confident. Nothing’s black or white but I haven't seen Freddie do anything particularly wrong and he remains very popular on all the polls, so I feel some people are overreacting when they claim he has no support.

Oh, and we don't know who will win, it's quite open isn't it?

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by Twiggy

Snobbery again. Brains don't make nice people. If she has no brain cells then she cannot be the manipulator that so many accuse her of being.

Great answer

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by Blink_Me

But you clearly didn't love him if you want him out so quickly. People seem to forget, basically the whole house was against him for the first 5 weeks, giving him a hard time. Now that he stood up for himself - yes in a bit of a childish way - and took on Lisa.... now you all hate him. And did you forget, only 3 people ever congratulated him when he survived eviction? Freddie had the decency to congratulate Lisa for surviving eviction, when he could have just ignored or told her to **** off.

The guy has every right to be cocky, considering he's survived 7 evictions. Yes, he shouldn't have acted that cocky, but I could understand what he meant by it. And from arguments, you tend to say and do stupid things, because your mindset is not 100%. I will agree that Freddie has gone a bit downhill since Bea has come in.

"Freddie congratulated Lisa ?" Are you joking ? did you see the smirk slide down his face ?

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by BBmassive

"Freddie congratulated Lisa ?" Are you joking ? did you see the smirk slide down his face ?

Blinded by your hatred of him. He shook her hand and said, "congratulations Lisa." I don't remember Lisa ever congratulating him.

[BBmassive]

Blink-me ,we will agree to disagree

[Kazanne]

Can someone explain what they mean when they say "Freddie has shown his true self" since Bea came in,He has been the same Freddie all along albeit far more confident now that he knows Lisa cannot grind him down anymore as people like him,Why shouldn't he tell her what he thinks and wind her up,she has done it to him long enough,from what I see of the posts the only excuse people seem to find to dislike him is "He had a go at Lisa" or he has got Cocky.Cocky,NO,more at ease Yes,Some even dislike him because he says hum and ah!!!,LOL go figure,there's nowt as queer as folk.

[golden]

Originally posted by Blink_Me

Blinded by your hatred of him. He shook her hand and said, "congratulations Lisa." I don't remember Lisa ever congratulating him.

Lisa has congratulated him more than once for staying.

[Beastie]

Originally posted by luminoussun
he done a jade...she was liked because she was bullied in the house...then become popular...then become a bully...then got thrown out in disgrace.

freddies not a bully at all!!

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by bbfanatic

freddies not a bully at all!!

What do you call laughing in someones face to provoke them ? I call it bullying

[JAJ1942]

Excellent post, I agree, still don't like Lisa but consider Bea equally as vile and his behaviour over the past week leaves much to be desired, he has shot himself in the foot and doesn;t have a hope in hell of winning now.

[eezamana]

I have no problem remembering how awful Lisa can be. She relentlessly bullied Freddie & I absolutely couldn't stand her.

The week she was originally up for eviction against Marcus, she would definitely have gone but everyone was rebelling against BB & discussing nominations so all housemates except her & Roddy got put up for eviction. I think that was the week Kenny left so eviction got cancelled. If not it would have been bye bye Lisa & good riddance.

Just as last night if it had stayed with the original nominees, Bea & Marcus, Bea would have gone. I also believe if it hadnt been a stupid vote to save last night Bea would still have gone.

That is twice this season that people I couldnt stand & imo wer dead certs to go, have been saved

Anyway returning to the actual point of the thread, I was a total Freddie fan from the moment he walked into the house, right up until the moment Bea came in & cast a spell on him & he's morphed into a not very nice person & has a couple of times lowered himself to Lisa's level of behaviour & is being very judgemental & snide & pompous & smug.

I say get that stupid manipulative cow Bea out & come back Freddie we love you once again.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by BBmassive

What do you call laughing in someones face to provoke them ? I call it bullying

Or what about when Lisa started shouting down in Freddie's face?

[BBmassive]

Blink me ,as i said we will agree to disagree ,thank you

[eezamana]

P.S as we all know its the controllers of BB who can to a great degree decide who we like & dislike by what they show of the housemates by their editing of both the HS's & LF's

I LOVE IT

[Kazanne]

I see no one can answer my question,by that i take it no one can?

[BB22]

As I have pointed out in another thread. I think some people have kind of lost their grip on what the word "bully" means. There is an awful lot of confusion with concepts such as "mock" and "act with some hostility towards" or "demonstrate one's dislike of".

It is unfortunate because it muddies the waters quite considerably.

[halfacrown]

Originally posted by kazanne
I see no one can answer my question,by that i take it no one can?

No, because you're right. Freddie’s so-called cockiness was simple payback. Remember Lisa telling him not to be cocky at the first eviction? It was not her place to tell anybody anything and it was a prelude to her weeks of telling people not to talk to Freddie. She ain’t a nice person.