[Showstopper]

Originally posted by jet
Siavash has a great chance if they go!

No - he will be up against Freddie for eviction in two weeks

[HayleyLeigh]

Originally posted by kellybsblover

Amen to this post! I can't stand these three...

cant stand them either

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's only betting odds, they change depending on who people put money on. The best indicator by far is still an up to date poll.

It just seems bizarre, they must have reliable sources, I don't think they look at internet polls; or do they?

Do you think the TiBB poll is reliable? That would mean David might well go.

[loomy]

Originally posted by Showstopper

No - he will be up against Freddie for eviction in two weeks

... and he'll probably win

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Showstopper

No - he will be up against Freddie for eviction in two weeks

Freddie is very vulnerable in vote to evict now, very.

[HayleyLeigh]

Originally posted by Showstopper

Maths and Logic

mayb u should go back to school then.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I don't understand, why do the odds keep changing all the time, based on what exactly? I don't know where they get their info from?

Why is Bea last, for instance? What info do they base this on?

All rather puzzling, because at 3 am last night, they changed it back to Lisa being fave to go.

Its based on betting patterns, public opinion, and expert advice

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by Claymores

Yes, but only narrowly ahead of Hira - if gamblers are to be believed, it'll effectively a direct shoot-out between Queen Bea and Hira:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/.../next-eviction

Do you believe them ?

I still think its close enough for a flurry to bring Lisa back into it

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by loomy

Most Freddie fans will be wanting Bea out ASAP

Ironic isn't it! Halfwit still needs Bea's voting power even though his fans know she's dragging him down. Simple maths shows that if Bea goes (therefore Lisa stays) there's an insurmountable voting gap for noms. Anyone who's voted...unwisely faces a very expensive bill to rectify the situation.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

Ironic isn't it! Halfwit still needs Bea's voting power even though his fans know she's dragging him down. Simple maths shows that if Bea goes (therefore Lisa stays) there's an insurmountable voting gap for noms.

That's true, but Bea is ruining him far moreso than any worries of being up. He's survived like 6/7 evictions, so Bea aside, that's no issue.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

Freddie fans will not be saving Bea, lol. Moreso the opposite, trying to get her out.

Hira is a single entity pretty much, unfortunately.

Tons of Halfwit/Marcus/Bea haters will be saving Lisa and David.

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Showstopper

Its based on betting patterns, public opinion, and expert advice

Interesting, it's just that what I've seen on the internet doesn't quite agree with their odds, but we shall see. Hira seems safer.

I guess I'm comparing the odds mainly to the TiBB and DS Polls.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

That's true, but Bea is ruining him far moreso than any worries of being up. He's survived like 6/7 evictions, so Bea aside, that's no issue.

Yes but when he keeps getting put up against his friends he will take it out on the rest of the house particularly Lisa. That is going to make him look far worse then Bea would

Think about it

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Showstopper

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times

But with Bea he won't win, and will continue to decline in popularity, so what use is getting to the final and finishing 4th or something?

He was dead set on 1st without Bea, and may still win if she leaves.

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by Showstopper
I'm gutted. Thats BB10 runied now

Evictions for the next 3 weeks are completely predictable and we'll have boring finalists

You want a dummy?

[loomy]

Originally posted by Showstopper

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times

But if Bea is saved it's more than likely that Freddie's support will continue to decline. If she leaves now there is a small chance he could redeem himself and win. It's better to nip it in the bud. Only one of them can win; Freddie fan would be better taking their chances and hoping that he beats Siavash in an eviction (I think he's easily beat Marcus). The only difference is that they will face each other a couple of weeks earlier than if they had been in the finals together.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Showstopper

Do you believe them ?

I still think its close enough for a flurry to bring Lisa back into it

The money has simply followed the online polls which have been influenced by this week events.

However, those polls are skewed by forumites talking of tactically voting to get rid of Bea to stick 2 fingers up at Halfarse.

It is still unclear whether the public at large will be thinking as deeply about tactical voting.

It's not really worth a punt this time IMHO.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong

You want a dummy?

No I have no use for you and am currently not hiring

Thank you for expressing an interest however

[AhmedFan2004]

I have to agree Claymores, and it seems to be changing every hour anyway. I really think it'll be tight between Lisa/Bea/David/Hira and perhaps Charlie/Rodrigo. All to play for!

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

But with Bea he won't win, and will continue to decline in popularity, so what use is getting to the final and finishing 4th or something?

He was dead set on 1st without Bea, and may still win if she leaves.

Who says he or we have to take Bea to the final? Only two opposing voters need to go (or 1 Lisa) before Bea can be swiftly dispatched.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

Who says he or we have to take Bea to the final? Only two opposing voters need to go (or 1 Lisa) before Bea can be swiftly dispatched.

So next week when Bea is put up, are you gonna evict her? Seems pointless, it's just another week for Freddie to dig himself a deeper hole, or for Bea to dig Freddie a deeper hole.

Nip it in the bud now, as another poster said.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by loomy

But if Bea is saved it's more than likely that Freddie's support will continue to decline. If she leaves now there is a small chance he could redeem himself and win. It's better to nip it in the bud. Only one of them can win; Freddie fan would be better taking their chances and hoping that he beats Siavash in an eviction (I think he's easily beat Marcus). The only difference is that they will face each other a couple of weeks earlier than if they had been in the finals together.

Disagree

Firstly Siavash is now the overall favourite to win, so at the time of writing he would be evicted more then likely

Also Freddie has more chance of returning to his old self with his friends around him then being targeted each week and have his friends leave

Its a real possibility that if Bea is voted out he could be evicted in two weeks when he comes up against Siavash

If Bea is kept in he is almost guarenteed a final spot

[Claymores]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I have to agree Claymores, and it seems to be changing every hour anyway. I really think it'll be tight between Lisa/Bea/David/Hira and perhaps Charlie/Rodrigo. All to play for!

When you're talking a few percent each for the bottom 4, that translates into very few votes - the margins between the actual votes cast will be tiny and a few votes could swing it any way I think.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by Claymores

The money has simply followed the online polls which have been influenced by this week events.

However, those polls are scewed by forumites talking of tactically voting to get rid of Bea to stick 2 fingers up at Halfarse.

It is still unclear whether the public at large will be thinking as deeply about tactical voting.

It's not really worth a punt this time IMHO.

Interesting, I bet on Lisa at the earliest possible oppertunity, as I thought her odds would drift to a point which would make it not worth it to bet. how wrong I was

It dosent look good for that bet now but I just can't see people voting in their droves to save her

The others are love/hate type housemates, but to me and anyone I've talked to she is just a non entity

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by Claymores

When you're talking a few percent each for the bottom 4, that translates into very few votes - the margins between the actual votes cast will be tiny and a few votes could swing it any way I think.

It must be like Xmas at channel 4 at the moment