[setanta]

Originally posted by Claymores

But down to 4th in the gambling odds and sinking faster than the Titanic

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/...her/win-market

He had it in the bag 2 weeks ago. Mental how much he's blown it.

[Marzy]

Originally posted by rediscool
Been out of the loop for a while but seriously, what's going on??

Why does everyone hate him?

He was so great!

He has started sticking up for himself towards the other housemates, namely Lisa.

How dare he voice an opinion and laugh in Lisas face the same as she did to him.

My honest opinion is that he is hated far more for his background and his familys wealth.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Marzy

He has started sticking up for himself towards the other housemates, namely Lisa.

How dare he voice an opinion and laugh in Lisas face the same as she did to him.

That is some wierd kind of inverse logic you employ.

Surely if Lisa is one on the public's most hated housemates, then attacking her and David should make him more admired rather than the reverse.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Claymores

That is some wierd kind of inverse logic you employ.

Surely if Lisa is one on the public's most hated housemates, then attacking her and David should make him more admired rather than the reverse.

Its the fact that david was brought into it I think.

Also the very childish and smug way he went about it.

If he had just appeared a bit more sane, and attacked lisa only...he would have gained more support...i think anyway.

[Libra]

My opinion is that Freddy was artificially popular and is now finding his true level.

He was liked early on because of the angry mob ganging up on him, it was a sympathetic popularity that he enjoyed. And there's nothing wrong with that in many ways, to feel sorry and root for someone who is getting a harder time than they deserve is natural.

Since than though it has become more and more obvious that he doesn't actually have much to give and is no less bitchy than anyone else.

The problem with Freddy lovers is that they are a bit delusional and tend to blame Bea for Freddy's behaviour.

At least when Siavash made a prat of himself with Noirin he was big enough to admit it.

Bea going isn't the answer, because as much as Freddy's slavish devotion to her makes him look bad, she also enpowers him and gives him confidence.

Without her, his shallowness would show up even more.

But then no doubt, that would be somebody elses fault as well.

[28thapril]

I don't

They just don't want him to get the money coz they say he doesn't need it, well maybe he don't but it's not an excuse at the end of the day it's his parents that are rich NOT him

[=-Incognito-=]

He's still got the biggest positive (well technically negative because it's largely based on sympathy) vote fan-base but, as predicted, his detractors are growing as people get involved in the series and find other favourites to latch onto.

It's our build them up then knock them down culture.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by 28thapril
I don't

They just don't want him to get the money coz they say he doesn't need it, well maybe he don't but it's not an excuse at the end of the day it's his parents that are rich NOT him

People seem unable to understand this.

This goes for the ones kicking off about him being on the dole for 2 whole weeks also. The whole Ł100 he claimed really got to the haters

He paints peoples faces for beer money when he goes out.

Everytime I think of this I picture him as one of those 'toilet attendants' who squirt you with perfume, then try to charge you 2 quid, for some reason.

His parents obviously dont give him anything or he wouldnt need to do this. Plus his parents may not be rich, they have a big estate, but that doesnt mean they have cash.

[Visage]

I liked Freddie at first, I thought he was different and pretty funny. When Lisa & Kris started picking fights with him, I felt it was more like they were bullying him.


As each week as gone by, his confidence as grown, to a point where I think he comes across to smug, and thought this could lead to his demise.

Bring Bea into the picture, and the knowledge he's very popular on the outside has really changed Freddie. His latest arguments with David & Lisa (which I believe they were Bea's arguments, and he joined in) have been a main factor in my total dislike to him.

Moaning to Lisa that her argument was making him cum was the last straw for me.

Sadly the funny and a little different as to what his character was about has been destroyed (for me) & I know longer enjoy watching him.


|Besides I would like to see the prize money go to someone who would really appreciate it

[halfacrown]

I'm not convinced that his popularity has dropped in the way some people are describing. Firstly he has remained at the top of the polls over the last couple of weeks, arguments notwithstanding, and he will probably move ahead of everyone on this website's favourite pole at some point today. There is a difference in the perception of people voting for him and some of the active anti-Freddie posters.

The odds have flipped about a lot lately and betting companies like this, as it keeps interest high

['Conor]

they hate him because he stood up to lisa... i no it dosnet make any sense

[rediscool]

I don't understand why people keeping bringing up Freddie's background. At this stage it's completely irrelevant. It really just highlights how resentful and begrudging the British public are.

Also, do you SERIOUSLY think that people are in Big Brother for the prize money? Seriously. They stand to gain much more just featuring on the show than they do with the final prize. Frankly when I'm thinking about who I want to win etc the fact that a certain sum on money goes out to the winner at the end doesn't even cross my mind. To be honest I don't really think that it matters who gets it. I think that most people are in it for the experience, if I were in there I wouldn't care less about the prize money and I'm hardly well-off.

[BB22]

A significant part of it is the great British tradition of building someone up and then knocking them down and taking delight in seeing them crash and burn. This tendency has been well documented over the years.

Freddie was so popular in the early part of the show, some people have just got bored and were vulnerable to flipping when the Anti-Freddie bandwagon finally started rolling.

[noobism]

Originally posted by rediscool
Been out of the loop for a while but seriously, what's going on??

Why does everyone hate him?

He was so great!

because he has always been a twat, but more so because everyone has there head up Charlies arse

[rediscool]

Originally posted by noobism


because he has always been a t***, but more so because everyone has there head up Charlies arse

Do they though?

[Marzy]

I still love him and so do people on DS, if you look at the favourite housemate poll he is still way ahead and has been every week.

Love Freddie!!!

[camertone]

freddie is two faced arrogant weirdo!

[Combo]

I still like Freddie. He's finally found himself a backbone with Lisa. It makes Lisa shut the **** up when he mentions about surviving 5 evictions on the spot. He's so funny.

He needs to get a back bone with Bea and forget about her. The sooner Bea goes the better Freddie will be. Everyone seems to be calling him a game player because he makes intelligent observations on game players. Other HM's are worried because they know Freddie is right and try to turn the game planning on Freddie, especially Lisa and Charlie. Freddie probably doesn't need to win Big Brother, he has a large career ahead of him anyway.

I still like Freddie and I think he's cool, he knows how to think and he is entertaining. Shame that other housemates are having an effect on what the public think which I think is bull ****. He's finally grown a backbone.

Charlie is a game player, he does something wrong then apologises the day after and acts a little angel so then he won't get nominated. I don't think Halfwit will nominate Charlie because they sorted it all out.

Who's up for eviction should be cool this week. I have a feeling it may actually be Freddie.

[rsefitpro2009]

Dont rule him out! i think he will win still! maybe im daft saying that!, but i cant see any better option in their at the moment!

[ManicWolf]

Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole first few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

[setanta]

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole girst few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

[=-Incognito-=]

It's the same Freddy we've seen for weeks but now that he's got the confidence to stand up to the remaining people who treated him so poorly the sympathy vote has evaporated and those same sympathy voters are angry at him for embarassing them for a day or two. 'How dare he not be the perfect saintly victim who I can champion to make me look good!' they declared.

They'll be back when Bea goes and it's team dumb vs socially-crushed Freddy again.

[ManicWolf]

Originally posted by setanta

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

So you're basically saying that Freddie is being a bad winner, and that is what has soured people? Because frankly I don't see it. Lisa's group may have diminished a little, but she's got David now, along with Charlie, and they're still giving Freddie some stick. Personally I don't think people should have to keep quiet about that, and let it happen, I respect Freddie for standing up for himself.

[setanta]

Originally posted by ManicWolf

So you're basically saying that Freddie is being a bad winner, and that is what has soured people? Because frankly I don't see it. Lisa's group may have diminished a little, but she's got David now, along with Charlie, and they're still giving Freddie some stick. Personally I don't think people should have to keep quiet about that, and let it happen, I respect Freddie for standing up for himself.

You honestly think that they've been having pops at Freddie all the time? If you compare their behaviour to that of his within the last two weeks there's really no evidence to suggest that they've been the more calculated and scheming.
They have just reacted to the other groups plots and character assassinations.

Hey, I don't like Lisa, but I hate this defence of Freddie and his group now when they are quite obviously doing to David and Lisa exactly what was done to Freddie earlier in the show. The similarity is as plain as day here.

[troy4783]

i used to like him but now he is so smug and cocky