[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by calyman

Pt 1: I'm a reasonable person and I am only astounded at the degree of consternation the smokers have shown. The fags were for all, not just for them

Pt 2: They were his to do whatever he liked to do with them. BB did not say the fags were only for smokers. If he wanted to use them as barter, then that's just as good (if not better than smoking them)

Pt 3: Erm, he didn't "fook up". he was never going to smoke the fags, he would have given them to others. Logic says they would have known about this later and would then have been grateful to Marcus for his foresight when they had no fags left for themselves.

As usual, it's the empty arguments with no solid foundation that others employ when trying to prove their own self regarding ethical points. They have only shown themselves to be the real selfish individuals here.

I see no 'solid foundation' to your argument either! In the end - it comes down to opinion - what you believe!!

If you want to believe Marcus's intentions were so honourable - then go ahead - I for one most certainly DON'T!

And that is an opinion formed on the basis of observing his previous behaviour for the last two months!! Don't trust the man one little bit!!!

[hennessy]

Cigerettes are a commodity, like food and tea bags.
If the smokers said they'll give extra portions of alcohol to the non smokers than it'll be fair but if it's for all HM why not take them? Whatever the motives.
Sophie was in the wrong for whistleblowing when it didn't concern her.
And lime do you feel a big man for calling out a spelling mistake or did you not get the gist?

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by terryecosse

David took more than his fair share of food,an essential for ALL housemates.

Marcus took his fair share of ciggies,a luxury item.

What's so difficult to understand.

I don't think the smokers in there would consider the cigarettes a 'luxury' item! Smoking is an addiction - with potential withdrawal symptoms!! Not life threatening - but unpleasant!

If David took a bit of butter - they weren't going to starve were they - don't be so dramatic!!

As I suspected - predictable response - not very interesting!!

[lime]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Cigerettes are a commodity, like food and tea bags.
If the smokers said they'll give extra portions of alcohol to the non smokers than it'll be fair but if it's for all HM why not take them? Whatever the motives.
Sophie was in the wrong for whistleblowing when it didn't concern her.
And lime do you feel a big man for calling out a spelling mistake or did you not get the gist?

As I am female & 5' 3 I most certainly do not feel like a big man.
As already pointed out ,ciggies belonged to all HM so it did concern Sophie

[hennessy]

Than Sophie should have taken a pack if she was blessed with foresight.
And feeling like a big bad shouldn't be taken literally

[lime]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Than Sophie should have taken a pack if she was blessed with foresight.
And feeling like a big bad shouldn't be taken literally

Why should Sophie haven taken something that did not belong to her??

If you are insinuating that i feel like "A big bad " then I can assure you I am not.

[calyman]

Originally posted by lime

Why should Sophie haven taken something that did not belong to her??

If you are insinuating that i feel like "A big bad " then I can assure you I am not.

What part of "equal shares" do you not understand? All items given to the housemates after succesful completion of the shopping task were for all housemates, not some.

If a housemate wants to smoke the fags, that's their privilege. If a housemates wants to use them for barter, then DITTO.

Simples

[hennessy]

Didn't the cigerettes belong to all the HMs?
If the smokers paid for them fair enough but they didn't ergo it was a free for all.
And "a big bad" or not it's not nice to pull up people's grammar, it might come back and bite you on the rear.

[lime]

Originally posted by calyman

What part of "equal shares" do you not understand? All items given to the housemates after successful completion of the shopping task were for all housemates, not some.

If a housemate wants to smoke the fags, that's their privilege. If a housemates wants to use them for barter, then DITTO.

Simples

It's hardly " equal shares" if one HM has taken something out of circulation.
All items are given to the housemates after successful completion of the shopping task were for all housemates,not some.

If a housemate wants to use them for barter,then DITTO.


So if David was to take some food out or circulation (hide it away) and then use it at a later stage to barter for ciggies that would be OK or would he be called a thief ??

[SiCkBuLLeT]

I find Sophie more irratating everyday she sounds pissed up and cranky, on live feed last night i could'nt stand her voice much more, just shut up you annoying thick bitch

I really hate her

[lime]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Didn't the cigerettes belong to all the HMs?
If the smokers paid for them fair enough but they didn't ergo it was a free for all.
And "a big bad" or not it's not nice to pull up people's grammar, it might come back and bite you on the rear.

YES YES YES.They belonged to ALL housemates not Marcus.
To be honest, I didn't notice spelling mistake

I just do not see a gist/jist in this situation.

I just see Marcus wanting to be in control

[calyman]

Originally posted by lime

It's hardly " equal shares" if one HM has taken something out of circulation.
All items are given to the housemates after successful completion of the shopping task were for all housemates,not some.

If a housemate wants to use them for barter,then DITTO.


So if David was to take some food out or circulation (hide it away) and then use it at a later stage to barter for ciggies that would be OK or would he be called a thief ??

Marcus didn't take anything out of circulation. The smokers would have still smoked the fags. They just might have had to swap say "Frosties" for them.

As for Fatty taking food out of "circulation" then I have to agree with you there. The food would have headed in a general direction of fatty's cavernous girth, not used as barter for ciggies. In that circumstance, then yes; Fatty would have consumed more than his fair share at the expense of all other housemeates.

Clearly not the same as Marcus retaining the fags for use later, as barter.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

How do you know that - because he said so! How gullible!

If you watched the live feed you would know! It's obvious you didn't.

[hennessy]

If David took food from the party spread than he is entitled to do with it what he wants, I wouldn't call him a thief.
I didn't realise the smokers left all cigerettes at the party when they left, if they didn't than surely Marcus is allowed.
And I apologise, I thought you were correcting someones spelling.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Speedy

If you watched the live feed you would know! It's obvious you didn't.

Got better things to do than stay up all night to watch bb!!
I need my sleep!

Whatever you say - you don't and can't know his intentions!

There is no way he could prove his intentions! You just take him at his word! I don't! Simple as!!

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by lime
He talks alot about others being thieves,now he has exposed himself as the thief

VERY true ,he slated David who he THOUGHT had taken something yet he is a PROVEN thief it will be his downfall thank God !! hes up on Monday

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by terryecosse

I don't understand how you can call him a thief?

Surely the ciggies were for all housemates.

As for Miss Plastic Fantastic,she's exposed herself to be a grass and nobody likes a grass.

I CAN and WILL call him a THEIF ,the cigarettes were for the smokers ,Mucus is not SMOKER he is a THEIF !! but he will be up on Monday now

[hennessy]

I must have missed Big Brother saying that

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
I must have missed Big Brother saying that

You probably do miss a lot with that 77 - social interactions can be quite tough neve mind

[hennessy]

Originally posted by Claymores

You probably do miss a lot with that 77 - social interactions can be quite tough neve mind

lol
That was the best you can do?

[MeMyselfAndI]

i hate Marcus

[Tenantry]

Why can't he take them, they were for everyone. So what if he is going to use them to trade with. That's just the way life is, get with the program people! Look after number one like everyone eles does in that house.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by BBmassive

I CAN and WILL call him a THEIF ,the cigarettes were for the smokers ,Mucus is not SMOKER he is a THEIF !! but he will be up on Monday now

And who stipulated this?

You?

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by terryecosse

And who stipulated this?

You?

He has been CAUGHT red handed

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Personally i think Marcus was out of order last night, what right has he got or anybody to hide cigs, to give to people when feel its the right time, its like a mother/father doing that with kids with sweets, i've said from day 1 the guy is a total control freak, i've been proved right.