[scot]

Originally posted by farhad

Strength does come in to it, didn't you see he suplexed marcus which is a lot harder considering body weight of marcus. and then head dropped him.

all that proves is the rash gets hot groping oiled up naked men. boke.

[ElProximo]

Why did Marcus try and pull down Siavashs speedo?
Because he was being dominated and he cheated to try and get out of it.

Why did Marcus then call out Charlie as 'cheater' for a lesser offense and do so 'as if' he was in authority to call things like Cheating?
Because he is a hypocrite and because he won't take responsibility for his own cowardly or cheating behavior and rids it by putting it on other people.

Marcus - the cheapest and smallest sort of man.

[Tom]

Marcus is nowhere near as strong as he or is fans believe. He got beaten by Tom in an arm wrestle and the excuse was the size of Tom's arms, and now beaten by Siavash. Not quite the legend it seems.

[30stone]

Marcus is weak.
And Marcus lies about the strength he thinks he has and the technique.

As for the doing one handed press ups...
It wasnt impressive its not like he went low doing them...

[scot]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Why did Marcus try and pull down Siavashs speedo?
Because he was being dominated and he cheated to try and get out of it.

Why did Marcus then call out Charlie as 'cheater' for a lesser offense and do so 'as if' he was in authority to call things like Cheating?
Because he is a hypocrite and because he won't take responsibility for his own cowardly or cheating behavior and rids it by putting it on other people.

Marcus - the cheapest and smallest sort of man.

you're aversion to proper men such as Marcus borders on the hysterical.

You may be suffering from penis envy...

More likely though it's because you have an overpowering sexual attraction for such men which you are in deep denial over.

It's causing you a lot of conflict.

I think you indentify as being a 'lesbian'. Am i correct?

the problem is though that your lesbian indentification is not rooted in a healthy attraction for members of your own gender but rather a flight response from hating/loving men.


You are probably a rather melancholic person aren't you? You probably are prone to depresions etc. though you probably put this down to some kind of artistic temperment/angst.

you need to really be honest about your sexual oirentation(sp). you need to get in touch with the real inner you and not 'consruct' an identity for yourself that is very likely rooted in hatred.

Of course the Id and the Ego are in a constant shifting dynamic, but you are putting extra burden on that symbiotic relationship with your burden of man hatred.

You are unhappy as you presently are and it eminates from you in bitter hatred of men.

There has to be a reason for that and that reason needs to be explored and resolved and closure looked for.

[30stone]

Mate, hes just saying somthing about marcus because marcus has lied and led people to believe he has some sort of martial arts technique and a lot of strength but has yet to prove it...

No need to become a psychiatrist..

[BB22]

Originally posted by 30stone
Mate, hes just saying somthing about marcus because marcus has lied and led people to believe he has some sort of martial arts technique and a lot of strength but has yet to prove it...

No need to become a psychiatrist..

I think you have missed the joke there, with respect. I know exactly why scot posted like that and it is quite amusing.

[scot]

Originally posted by BB22

I think you have missed the joke there, with respect. I know exactly why scot posted like that and it is quite amusing.

glad i aint alone!

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by scot

you're aversion to proper men such as Marcus borders on the hysterical.

You may be suffering from penis envy...

More likely though it's because you have an overpowering sexual attraction for such men which you are in deep denial over.

It's causing you a lot of conflict.

I think you indentify as being a 'lesbian'. Am i correct?

the problem is though that your lesbian indentification is not rooted in a healthy attraction for members of your own gender but rather a flight response from hating/loving men.


You are probably a rather melancholic person aren't you? You probably are prone to depresions etc. though you probably put this down to some kind of artistic temperment/angst.

you need to really be honest about your sexual oirentation(sp). you need to get in touch with the real inner you and not 'consruct' an identity for yourself that is very likely rooted in hatred.

Of course the Id and the Ego are in a constant shifting dynamic, but you are putting extra burden on that symbiotic relationship with your burden of man hatred.

You are unhappy as you presently are and it eminates from you in bitter hatred of men.

There has to be a reason for that and that reason needs to be explored and resolved and closure looked for.

How odd (emboldened),
but,
Since a lot of the Marcus fanboys are now reduced to personal attacks and 'why you hate him' questions then I might just give an explanation later on.
The answer might surprised you.
(but i suppose a lot of things are surprising, confusing and 'don't make any sense) to you)

[30stone]

Originally posted by scot

glad i aint alone!

Yes i know but i was trying to keep it on topic.
Along with the fact you shouldnt be insulting other, weather you mean it as a joke or not.

[SiCkBuLLeT]

Originally posted by ElProximo

How odd (emboldened),
but,
Since a lot of the Marcus fanboys are now reduced to personal attacks and 'why you hate him' questions then I might just give an explanation later on.
The answer might surprised you.
(but i suppose a lot of things are surprising, confusing and 'don't make any sense) to you)

It all comes down to stupid threads like this attacking or insulting Marcus that winds us Supporters up, and not seeing the homour in his rants..

Saying Marcus is weak is ridiculous he may not be super strong but he isn't weak being able to do press ups with 1 hand is not weak

Siavash beat Marcus due to technice and the oil didn't help to, and his Diary room rant was just pure Homour Marcus just Being Marcus.

Marcus did shake his hand right after he got beat and smiled, bad loser? i think not.

[scot]

Originally posted by ElProximo

How odd (emboldened),
but,
Since a lot of the Marcus fanboys are now reduced to personal attacks and 'why you hate him' questions then I might just give an explanation later on.
The answer might surprised you.
(but i suppose a lot of things are surprising, confusing and 'don't make any sense) to you)

The lesbian inquiry?

that was by no means a pesonal attack. That you thought it was is rather telling though.

It could be construed as your feeling uncomfortable re the validity of a sexual identity you have 'constructed' for yourself rather than a 'truer' identity you deny and supress rooted in an hysterical hatred of men as symbolised by Marcus.

A sexual identity rooted in hatred is a false construct which always leeds to anger, resentment, self loathing, bitterness and you do seem to ooze these characteristics.

[30stone]

Please keep this on topic..

[farhad]

it actually was a perfect plex! leg hooked and everything.

[SiCkBuLLeT]

Originally posted by 30stone
Please keep this on topic..

It is hard to when so many threads anger us becasue there so wrong?

He cleary is not weak or a bad loser?

[BB22]

Originally posted by 30stone

Yes i know but i was trying to keep it on topic.
Along with the fact you shouldnt be insulting other, weather you mean it as a joke or not.

I would prefer to call it satire.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by scot
A sexual identity rooted in hatred is a false construct which always leeds to anger, resentment, self loathing, bitterness and you do seem to ooze these characteristics.

So you think condemning Marcus' misogyny, false bravado, lying, cheating and hypocrisy indicates I am secretly jealous of those abilities and wish I had them too?

It might be we have more over-arching disconnect if we carried on any analysis:
For me there are 'absolute rights and wrongs'. It is always 'morally wrong' to (for example) threaten someone with violent retribution for their thoughts.
You may have a world view that supposes there is no 'moral right and wrong' in any universal or 'absolute' sense but that it is all relative to whatever time and place and becomes 'right or wrong' depending on who and how many favour the decision.
It may be 'right' for Marcus to threaten Sree for Srees words,
but,
It might be 'wrong' if Sree did the reverse.

So for you its the same when I criticise lying as if I criticise a great vocabulary or a correct answer.
I am just as likely 'wanting' any of those?

Is that somewhat approaching the situation here?

[scot]

Originally posted by ElProximo

So you think condemning Marcus' misogyny, false bravado, lying, cheating and hypocrisy indicates I am secretly jealous of those abilities and wish I had them too?

It might be we have more over-arching disconnect if we carried on any analysis:
For me there are 'absolute rights and wrongs'. It is always 'morally wrong' to (for example) threaten someone with violent retribution for their thoughts.
You may have a world view that supposes there is no 'moral right and wrong' in any universal or 'absolute' sense but that it is all relative to whatever time and place and becomes 'right or wrong' depending on who and how many favour the decision.
It may be 'right' for Marcus to threaten Sree for Srees words,
but,
It might be 'wrong' if Sree did the reverse.

So for you its the same when I criticise lying as if I criticise a great vocabulary or a correct answer.
I am just as likely 'wanting' any of those?

Is that somewhat approaching the situation here?

eh? what was all that about? there is no coherence in your irrational ramblings, you on the jellies?

you reek of misandry...

[scot]

El proxo, just in case; misandry = misandry, misandria
an extreme dislike of males, frequently based upon unhappy experience or upbringing.

[farhad]

Marcus made the comment in the diary room about Siavash pussyfooting around and forced him to fight, he didn't seem to take into account Siavash not wishing to hurt Sophie and why was so gentle. Siavash soon proved him wrong though.

[scot]

[quote]Originally posted by ElProximo

Originally posted by scot

For me there are 'absolute rights and wrongs'.

THAT'S NOT VERY POSTMODERN OF YOU PROXO!

NOW THIS IS MORE LIKE IT DOLL!


You may have a world view that supposes there is no 'moral right and wrong' in any universal or 'absolute' sense but that it is all relative to whatever time and place and becomes 'right or wrong' depending on who and how many favour the decision.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by scot
El proxo, just in case; misandry = misandry, misandria
an extreme dislike of males, frequently based upon unhappy experience or upbringing.

You noticed I used the term 'misogyny' and then followed my lead by introducing the parallel 'misandry'.
Well I'm going to call that 'ironic' and here is why:
I would concede that Marcus is more of a 'Misandrist' than a 'Misogynist'.
This is because his father was an abusive sonofabitch that abandoned him.
He gets the 'Misogyny' later (blames mother) but the misandry is really the 'core' pathology with Marcus.

But for anyone who does want to bring any gender bias to Marcus then there is a bit of a twist:
Marcus is a 'male' but he is not a 'Man'. He is really a boy. About 17 years old still.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by scot

and again from a previous post -

I always thought siavash looked like the kinda creepy guy who loved getting naked smothered in baby oil and groping other men in a paddling pool. He seemed to have previous knowledge and experience and ect.

Marcus seemed a little disdainfull of the whole thing. Not surprising the enduring legend would not approve of a task that reeked of homo eroticism. Chaz loved it though.

Marcus always wins, even when he loses.

But if you recall, it was Marcus who said in the diary room 'Siavash just wanted to sit in the pool and do nothing, so I decided to initiate some action'

So NOW who enjoys touching oiled up men?

[naranja]

haha your sincere concern is too funny!

don't worry about Marcus, legaly he can't unleash the metal claws, and heroic strengh, that's all.

[farhad]

Marcus got owned, some of his fans still live in wonderland believing what he says.