[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by farhad

Marcus is upset with siavash because siavash beat him to noirin, tasks and the wrestling.

Well yes in effect, so he was criticizing him in the bathroom. This forum loves to pretend that they are buddies, for some BIZARRE reason. No such thing.

(I side with Marcus on everything he said btw)

[NolasGirl]

You were implying that Siavash had articulated the position of being "on top of the mountain" himself...when in actual fact he has no clue what his position is, and I honestly don't believe he is that cunning to orchestrate things in that way. And I'm not a Siavash fan honestly- I regard him as quite weak, and his weakness is unattractive. I'm a Marcus fan. Marcus' brilliance in articulating points of view is what led to the mountain analogy.
Siavash's weaknesses are another reason I think the attacks on him have no basis, as his weaknesses are exactly the point- he couldn't really have the willpower to plan the outcome charlie and co are accusing him of

[Shasown]

Ahemedfan scroll back up through this thread and you will see you said
"Yes he did. He talked about his 'if you're at the top of the mountain' analogy, which he also warned Freddie about. How Siavash just tries to ensure that he covers himself in every situation. "

in response to someone saying that Siavash hadnt said what you had stated he had said.

Stop worming. Just accept the fact its not often you are right but you are wrong again.

[AhmedFan2004]

That was Marcus' quote. You both have misread. The reference to telling Freddie made it stone cold obvious. He told Freddie the same thing. And he told this to Siavash in the bathroom.

You both are mixed up. But luckily we all agree about Marcus saying these things.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Shasown

Stop worming. Just accept the fact its not often you are right but you are wrong again.

Or that I said that Marcus said these analogies, and we agreed all along.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
That was Marcus' quote. You both have misread. The reference to telling Freddie made it stone cold obvious. He told Freddie the same thing. And he told this to Siavash in the bathroom.

You both are mixed up. But luckily we all agree about Marcus saying these things.

Err no we didnt misread, you miswrote, trying explaining things in a clear and concise way next time.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Shasown
Err no we didnt misread, you miswrote, trying explaining things in a clear and concise way next time.

I believe that the confusion is over Farhad's post of 'He didn't say that'. I thought he meant that Marcus didn't say those things. I then went onto post about what Marcus said; fixing, analogies, etc.

I haven't spoken about anything that Vash has said in this thread.

[NolasGirl]

Ok well regardless, I think this..

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

Yep, absolutely spot on, and that's what all the HMs are on about.

is way over the top. I would not assign such cunning manoevres to someone who actually comes across as more of a people pleaser than anything else...his continual failure to nominate is the result of sheer weakness on his behalf..not some sly plan. In the very best he is being principled..but I don't honestly believe that's it. He said from the very begninning though (and this is something ppl have conveniently forgotten), that he thinks the nominations procedure is unfair and that the whole slate of HM's should be up for nomination every week systematically.
If he veered away from that principle, public would prob still be complaining about him.
As much as I love Marcus I think he still has not forgiven Siavash and is completely exaggerating the idea that Sia has any sort of agenda.

[farhad]

Originally posted by NolasGirl
You were implying that Siavash had articulated the position of being "on top of the mountain" himself...when in actual fact he has no clue what his position is, and I honestly don't believe he is that cunning to orchestrate things in that way. And I'm not a Siavash fan honestly- I regard him as quite weak, and his weakness is unattractive. I'm a Marcus fan. Marcus' brilliance in articulating points of view is what led to the mountain analogy.
Siavash's weaknesses are another reason I think the attacks on him have no basis, as his weaknesses are exactly the point- he couldn't really have the willpower to plan the outcome charlie and co are accusing him of

Marcus is the weakest i think, he wants to be like siavash, siavash has charms, thats why he wins girls, and in wrestling Marcus thought he had it in the bag when Vash came up his hidden wrestling grappling ability.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

I believe that the confusion is over Farhad's post of 'He didn't say that'. I thought he meant that Marcus didn't say those things. I then went onto post about what Marcus said; fixing, analogies, etc.

I accept your apology on behalf of myself and Nolasgirl, we do accept your failings as you are only human. please do your best not to make similar mistakes again in future.

[boomoo]

Siewash would be in a better position now if he had not started his noms protest.

The game is about winning popularity with housemates so that you are not nominated.
That is why Lisa is still in there. She has strong views and has still remained popular with at least 5 housemates all the way.
I would have been happy for Siewash to win but he has played a silly game. He should have been put up for nom every time he refused to vote.