[Faye_05]

Words taken back...

[Ruth]

You and me both Faye.

[ThaGazBoi]

[nyameko]

ok anything else

[nyameko]

aggghhhhhhhhh

[lily.]

Vanessa may have mentioned it while she was in the house. If she is claiming that C4 edited out a lot of racist remarks, then they could just as easily have edited out her talking about it.

There are racists everywhere from all different backgrounds & cultures, and all different colours. IF any racist remarks were made in the house by ANY of the HMs then I do think that BB should have issued a formal warning. The problem is that a lot of the time innocent remarks are blown up out of all proportion and classed as racist, when in fact a lot of the time, they are not.

I refer to the Guardian article and I quote : "You are a fake ... You wear a ****ing wig on your head," referring to Makosi's afro.

Correct me if I am wrong - Makosi has admitted that her hair is a wig right?

If so, then it wasn't attacking her afro. It was attacking her choice to wear a false hairpiece. The press have chosen to blow it up and sensationalise it.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying Saskia or Maxwell, or any of the others are NOT racist, because I don't know if they are or are not. I am just pointing out that some things get misconstrued all in the name of selling papers/magazines etc.

[Ruth]

I agree, I did not take the comment about the wig as racist, the same insult could have been made towards someone of any ethnic origin. However, her statements about immigrants I find extremely distasteful, to say the least.

[lily.]

Yeah, I would agree with that.. if she actually said that, then that was very narrow minded.

[selfinflicted]

The original article actually stated that most of the 'racial' comments that were supposedly edited out came from team Diva. Apparently only Maxwells group singing 'Eng-er-land, En-ger-land, En-ger-land" was edited out on their part, with the bizarre reasoning that it happened soon after the London bombings (so?).
But on the part of team diva, a lot of their conversations would turn to racial observations within the house.

But it's funny how everyone assumes it all comes from the white group, isn't it?

[Ruth]

Originally posted by selfinflicted
But it's funny how everyone assumes it all comes from the white group, isn't it?

I haven't assumed that at all. If you read my previous posts, I didn't think racism came into it, until I read Saskia's comments about immigrants.

[selfinflicted]

OK, everyone except ruth!

[lily.]

I thought Derek was bang out of order telling Anthony to "go back down the mines". Derek is guilty of a lot of bigotry, and not just the racist type.

[selfinflicted]

"Saskia's comments are disgraceful, when she says:

"I don't like people coming into the country. I cannot generalise, but they all want to kill us, bomb us and they call us names"


The evidence to support this statement is increasing all the time. Unlike saskia, I can and will generalise. The only thing she got wrong is that some of them were actually born here, and didn't come into the country at all, which is of course far worse. We face interesting times, and a lot of people are going to have to wake up and smell the coffee.
The truth is not politically correct, but the truth it remains.

[Ruth]

Are you seriously saying that ALL the people who come into this country want to kill us and bomb us, and call us names? Just checking, because she did say "they all" and you said that she only got one thing wrong, which is that some of "them" were born here. Saskia is not only proving herself to be racist, she is also proving herself to be uninformed. Ask yourself how many immigrants we have in this country (and by the way, if they are born here, they are British), and how many of them really want to bomb us and kill us. It is a very small minority, which in no way excuses their atrocious acts.

I have sent you a U2U, as this thread has taken an unpleasant turn, and I don't think this forum is the place to discuss this.

This discussion is leaving a nasty taste in my mouth.