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fitz2k2 · 25-08-2009, 10:05 PM

doesnt matter charlie n rod wont listen

setanta · 25-08-2009, 10:06 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

HalfwitFTW · 25-08-2009, 10:07 PM

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Yep this is what I've been trying to say

not quite,you were trying to say Siavash wasnt scared of going against Marcus head to head but the fact is he thought Dave would be up which is why he refused to nom.Hes scared of going up or he is desperate to win,you decide.

How many times do you need it explained to you? Its not rocket science you know
If he was scared of going up, he would have nominated Marcus and David, making a Marcus V David result
But he didnt
and put himself up
Hence- not scared
And of course he would like to win, who in there wouldnt?
You go on a gameshow to win dont you

silversurfer · 25-08-2009, 10:08 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...

But I don't think he could be convinced of David going up especially when you look at who's voting in the house. My bet is he realised it was close so he wanted to continue he martyr act and on his dull non voting tactic in the hope that it would win him votes outside. Divulging it to Rodrigo was more of the same thing..... looking for the airtime and the sympathy of the audience.

im leaning towards that...

Vicky. · 25-08-2009, 10:11 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

No lol

If he had voted david he was assuming just David and Marcus were up by the logic Vicky explained.

The point is he was going up against Marcus who he knows has survived nominations and to him, very liked on the outside. And the point your making only would have value if he HAD voted for David surely?

How was he? he knew
Lias Charlie david would vote him and Marcus,
Sophie was voting Marcus and David
Rodrigo was voting Marcus and David (so Sopie told him) Marcus voted Sophie and David....
equaled 5 for Marcus, 3 for david 3 for him. If he had voted for David that would have meant David had 4 therefore Marcus and David would be up, what he didnt know whas tha Rodrigo voted for him and Marcus, so he was up anyway, his nomination wouldnt have changed anything,

Exactly. He had no reason to doubt what sophie said rods nominations would be as they were close...sophie obviously thought roddy would vote that way, he probably would of, until charlie got to him to be honest...

If he wanted David out, based on the information he had, he would of voted for David. Simple.

Vicky. · 25-08-2009, 10:13 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

No clue about that.

At all.

I am just explaining what he was doing regarding nominations.

pixee · 25-08-2009, 10:13 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

No lol

If he had voted david he was assuming just David and Marcus were up by the logic Vicky explained.

The point is he was going up against Marcus who he knows has survived nominations and to him, very liked on the outside. And the point your making only would have value if he HAD voted for David surely?

How was he? he knew
Lias Charlie david would vote him and Marcus,
Sophie was voting Marcus and David
Rodrigo was voting Marcus and David (so Sopie told him) Marcus voted Sophie and David....
equaled 5 for Marcus, 3 for david 3 for him. If he had voted for David that would have meant David had 4 therefore Marcus and David would be up, what he didnt know whas tha Rodrigo voted for him and Marcus, so he was up anyway, his nomination wouldnt have changed anything,

I can't tell which side people are on anymore lol

My point is he could have put David up as far as he was concerned and didn't he wanted to go up against Marcus.

I agree with Vicky if it is unclear lol

munky · 25-08-2009, 10:13 PM

The most infuriating part is Pinky and the Brain just sit back and watch everyone else slowly pick each other off week by week.

Their plan to take over the world is slowly coming to fruition.

mother6 · 25-08-2009, 10:13 PM

The truth of the matter is that Siavash wrongly predicted the nominations as Charlie said 'are you psychic'. He knew him and Marcus were going to be up he tried to drag David in to the equation as he believed David would be voted out.
Even if he had used his vote and nominated David, Marcus and he would still be up. It amazes me that he tries to make viewers believe by not nominating he put himself up for eviction. Siavash if you really wanted to face the public vote ask your HM's to nominate you like Marcus did.

jgfrise · 25-08-2009, 10:13 PM

If they had listened to Siavash in the first place this scenario would not have occurred. He wanted them to vote tactically so that all housemates were up for eviction, which would have avoided any arguments. They are so thick that they did not understand what he was talking about, and stated that they were not going to be told who to vote for. They could have manipulated it so that all 7 were up for eviction. Pity as that would have been the fairest situation in the week before the final

jet · 25-08-2009, 10:17 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...

But I don't think he could be convinced of David going up especially when you look at who's voting in the house. My bet is he realised it was close so he wanted to continue he martyr act and on his dull non voting tactic in the hope that it would win him votes outside. Divulging it to Rodrigo was more of the same thing..... looking for the airtime and the sympathy of the audience.

That's how I see it. He really is the biggest game player in there.

HalfwitFTW · 25-08-2009, 10:18 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

So now him just having a conversation with Rodrigo means he wants to start a big argument in order to make himself look good.

Ok

setanta · 25-08-2009, 10:18 PM

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Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

No clue about that.

At all.

I am just explaining what he was doing regarding nominations.

I understand, but him voting would have no value to him, as he explained before that Marcus, David and him being up was the perfect scenario for him. He's just playing the moral card again and it's getting very very dull.

Still don't think he could ever have the votes that clear in his mind anyway.... and sure if he did it's quite obvious he's playing a game and every action he takes now is entirely deliberate. Proves that he's a total gameplayer and I wouldn't trust anything he says right now.

Vicky. · 25-08-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by mother6
The truth of the matter is that Siavash wrongly predicted the nominations as Charlie said 'are you psychic'. He knew him and Marcus were going to be up he tried to drag David in to the equation as he believed David would be voted out.
Even if he had used his vote and nominated David, Marcus and he would still be up. It amazes me that he tries to make viewers believe by not nominating he put himself up for eviction. Siavash if you really wanted to face the public vote ask your HM's to nominate you like Marcus did.

He didnt wrongly predict the nominations.

He was told Marcus' Sophie's and Rods(from sophie)

He guessed lisa david and charlies...and was spot on. Theirs was pretty obvious.

BONNEIP · 25-08-2009, 10:20 PM

When all is said and done....Siavash has been playing the game....his game & is heading right towards the £100k prize which he has done nothing to merit winning. Marcus luv or hate him has by a mile been the best housemate in BB history....thats fact.

setanta · 25-08-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

So now him just having a conversation with Rodrigo means he wants to start a big argument in order to make himself look good.

Ok

Of course that was his main motivation. Did you see the smile on his face in the diary room afterwards? Come on, it's entirely deliberate.

Kate! · 25-08-2009, 10:21 PM

vicky you are spot on with this.

illusionist · 25-08-2009, 10:24 PM

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He didnt wrongly predict the nominations.

He was told Marcus' Sophie's and Rods(from sophie)

He guessed lisa david and charlies...and was spot on. Theirs was pretty obvious.

You got siavash's theory spot on Vicky and you have put it in a nice way..

I gues he could have mentioned to the pack of wolves on their face that one doesnt need sexth sense to guess lisa and her puppets nominations..

it would be the survivor vs sophie on tuesday sadly..

NONESHALLPASS · 25-08-2009, 10:24 PM

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The truth of the matter is that Siavash wrongly predicted the nominations as Charlie said 'are you psychic'. He knew him and Marcus were going to be up he tried to drag David in to the equation as he believed David would be voted out.
Even if he had used his vote and nominated David, Marcus and he would still be up. It amazes me that he tries to make viewers believe by not nominating he put himself up for eviction. Siavash if you really wanted to face the public vote ask your HM's to nominate you like Marcus did.

He didnt wrongly predict the nominations.

He was told Marcus' Sophie's and Rods(from sophie)

He guessed lisa david and charlies...and was spot on. Theirs was pretty obvious.

BUt rod didnt tell sophie or anyone else who he was nomming so why was she so certain??
Siavash knows rodrigo tells noone who he nomms so why did he take what she said as read??

munky · 25-08-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by jgfrise
If they had listened to Siavash in the first place this scenario would not have occurred. He wanted them to vote tactically so that all housemates were up for eviction, which would have avoided any arguments. They are so thick that they did not understand what he was talking about, and stated that they were not going to be told who to vote for. They could have manipulated it so that all 7 were up for eviction. Pity as that would have been the fairest situation in the week before the final

But the whole point is it's not about being fair!!!! It is about nominating who the housemates want to go not base it on the misguided so called morality (or gameplanning or whatever you want to call it) of some Iranian dude or what he considers to be 'fair'.

It's just not cricket!

mother6 · 25-08-2009, 10:31 PM

This could all have been avoided if BB took the stance that anyone failing to nominate faces the public vote. In Siavash's case where he continually flouts the rules is simple, the diary room door to your left is open, you are free to leave.

HalfwitFTW · 25-08-2009, 10:31 PM

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Of course that was his main motivation. Did you see the smile on his face in the diary room afterwards? Come on, it's entirely deliberate.

Why would he want the rest of the house bitching about him, ganging up on him and making him look bad? Because what they said about his gf DID make him look bad

Dont know why you think he would deliberately want them bad mouthing him?

But ok you keep believing that

morris09 · 25-08-2009, 10:37 PM

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I'm a Rodrigo fan and I can't in all honesty say I'm disappointed in him. He's acted true to form - obeying the rules seems to be extremely important to him and I think he personally is disappointed in Siavash because he put Sophie in the firing line. I don't think Rodrigo was influenced by Charlie. His gripe with Siavash was different from Charlies.

Why didn't he obey the rules yesterday afternoon and not run out of the BB house and into the production area!? The reason is simple: as the majority - Lisa and David were sightseeing around London - participated he wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Rodrigo only attacks people when he feels comfortable which is cowardly.

dwarling · 25-08-2009, 10:38 PM

Well I have never liked or really agreed with Charlie but I think he was right when he said 'if you only did that because you wanted to be up, you could have just asked everyone to put you up' as he could have, instead of trying to play innocent. I've alway's liked Siavash, but by trying to manipulate nomination's he's effed everthing up.

santaa · 25-08-2009, 10:42 PM

He dug himself in a hole with his refusal to nominate in earlier rounds. Schemed his way out of it, thinking he would be safe against David and not lose face ,sticking to his principles.He had it all worked out. Thought he knew what he was doing.

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