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BB10 Big Brother 10 from 2009 was won by Sophie Reade.
Housemates: Angel, Bea, Beinazir, Cairon, Charlie, David, Freddie/Halfwit, Hira, Isaac, Kenneth, Karly, Kris, Lisa, Marcus, Noirin, Rodrigo, Saffia, Siavash, Sophia, Sophie/Dogface, Sree, Tom

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Old 27-08-2009, 12:25 PM #1
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when he say's it to his face, he is wrong, behind his back, he is wrong.

well all your favs will be out soon, i just hope you are ready for all the hoo ha leading up to their evictions.

i am proud that marcus has gotten this far with all the bias against him, and if he stays on friday i will not gloat,

because siavash and marcus should never have gone up against each other, the same as with freddie,

all i am waiting for is lisa.
EVERYONE will be out in 8 days time ,but Mucus or Siavash will go tomorrow !! the other one on Tuesday
you may be right.
If he wanted it to be david and marcus, he would of nominated david. Based on what he was told the nominations had been, the ONLY way david and marcus would of been up alone was if siavash nominated david. By not nominating he thought it would be a three way.
He only knew how Mucus had voted ,he tried to work it out,but got it all wrong
He knew sophies also, and sophie told him rodrigo would vote marcus and david.

So he knew three. He assumed (correctly) that lisa david and charlie would vote him and marcus.
We will agree to disagree over this one Vicky IMO he had no intention WHATSOEVER of putting himself up ,he dropped a bolok
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The way Marcus phrased it sounded like it was meant to mean 'too bad it didn't work'
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Well they have obviously discussed what it was that Siavash was trying to achieve and Marcus observed that it did not work out how Siavash wanted it to. He is obviously a little miffed at Siavash but I am not going to read too much into that comment.
But what Siavash was trying to achieve was get himself up for eviction, which he had done, so what was the need for Marcus to say his scheme hadnt worked?

Siavash didnt even have a scheme to avoid a 2way eviction, he knew there would be every risk of him going up in a 2way when he didnt nominate, so Marcus saying that was a bit of a low blow tbh
First apologies for double post but I missed this.

To say Siavash did not have a scheme after that shameful performance in the diary room is way off the mark.
He worked it everyway but which in his head and in front of the camera that it would be a three way eviction. He even said he did not want to go up against Marcus on his own.

I'm sorry but the way I see it is he blew it big time and exposed his true feelings which are he wants it too much. I suppose you could say they all want it the same way but actually showing it is suicide.

Really feel sorry for him in this situation but he has made his bed on this one
Word for word what he said in the DR:

'If I nominate David, I will definitely not go up this week. It will be David and Marcus. If I do not nominate David, its likely that its going to be me, Marcus and David OR its me and just Marcus. Do you take a risk of going against Marcus, on your own, which probably means I'll go home. Or do I just let it be David and Marcus? No free rides in this life. It has to be earned. Im not going to that final week without earning my place. No way jose. I'm not nominating'

Bolded part shows he knew there was every risk of there being a 2-way eviction
Well we will just have to agree to differ on this one. Do you really think he WANTS to go home? None of them do they are playing a game and playing it to win.

It is how they go about it that makes people pay attention and either grant their wish OR blow them out of the water.
I've said many times I really like him and I still do compared to Lisa's crew etc etc. If he survives this Friday he will have my full support i just don't think he deserves to beat Marcus on this occasion. He knew what he was doing.
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Well they have obviously discussed what it was that Siavash was trying to achieve and Marcus observed that it did not work out how Siavash wanted it to. He is obviously a little miffed at Siavash but I am not going to read too much into that comment.
But what Siavash was trying to achieve was get himself up for eviction, which he had done, so what was the need for Marcus to say his scheme hadnt worked?

Siavash didnt even have a scheme to avoid a 2way eviction, he knew there would be every risk of him going up in a 2way when he didnt nominate, so Marcus saying that was a bit of a low blow tbh
Well hold on. The way I read the situation, Siavash was trying to get a three-way eviction, anticipating it would be him, Marcus and David. Obviously, he knew there was a chance that if he messed up his calculations then it might just be him and Marcus. I think that is what has happened and that is what Marcus is referring to. It fits the available evidence, as far as I can see, if we assume that Siavash is not deceiving everyone.

Edit: I note that at least one other forum member has said a similar thing in response.
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Siavash got very upset the night Cairon left BB and he blamed Lisa for it so he waited and waited for the time that there was more of Lisas gang left then other HM's and finally the other night he seen the chance to finaly payback Lisa and that was get her best-friend David up against him and Marcus known he'd go...But it backfired...and the rest as they say ...
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If Siavash really belived in no free rides he should have nominated Charlie/Sohie/Rodrigo.

His plan was a 3 way Marcus/Sivash/David eviction that he assumed David would loose. The talk of 'free rides' is simply to make himself look good at the expense of Charlie/Sohie/Rodrigo.

Now he is in a 2 way with Marcus, his scheme truley has backfired.
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If only Siavash had nominated he wouldn't be going home on Friday
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That made me dislike marcus a little...

Was there any need?
Why? because Sievashes scheme did not work?
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That made me dislike marcus a little...

Was there any need?
Why? because Sievashes scheme did not work?

See we dont see the whole story when Marcus said ''Your scheme didn't work'' He wasn't having a go at Siavash but only he and Siavash knew what the sceme was and that was to get back at Lisa by getting David up....Thats all it was and if anyone else reads anything different into it ...well good on you.
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I just think it's lame that Marcus is on the chopping block because Siavash arrogantly and erroneously tried to predict who would be nominated.
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That made me dislike marcus a little...

Was there any need?
Yes there was. Because Siavash schemed and failed.
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That made me dislike marcus a little...

Was there any need?
Why? because Sievashes scheme did not work?
No, because he was quite bitchy...or came across that way.
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Siavash got very upset the night Cairon left BB and he blamed Lisa for it so he waited and waited for the time that there was more of Lisas gang left then other HM's and finally the other night he seen the chance to finaly payback Lisa and that was get her best-friend David up against him and Marcus known he'd go...But it backfired...and the rest as they say ...
So you are able to read Siavash's mind now?

That is all just unfounded speculation on your part
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But what Siavash was trying to achieve was get himself up for eviction, which he had done, so what was the need for Marcus to say his scheme hadnt worked?
Because he was gunning for a 3-way eviction.

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Siavash didnt even have a scheme to avoid a 2way eviction, he knew there would be every risk of him going up in a 2way when he didnt nominate, so Marcus saying that was a bit of a low blow tbh
Not really, Siavash had other noms out of his hands. He wanted a 3-way. But he failed. And that's his hard luck.

Why should schemers succeed? ...
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That is all just unfounded speculation on your part
I agree the Cairon theory is farfetched. But he did want a 3-way and expected it.
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You are ignoring AhmedFan2004, so you can not see their posts.
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He wasn't having a go at Siavash but only he and Siavash knew what the sceme was and that was to get back at Lisa by getting David up
But by his calculations David was going to be up anyway. Siavash just tried to join him, rather than letting it be Dave vs Marcus.

So his decisions had nothing to do with getting David up. He already calculated that David would be up, with 3 noms.

If he wanted David up so bad, guaranteed, he'd nominate David.
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I think he's just a little hurt he's up against Siavash.
I think he was just VERY hurt that Siavash arranged for David not to be up! Marcus thinks he is a lot more vulnerable as a consequence of it. He would probably have gone anyway.
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To be honest, I think Marcus would have triumphed handily in a direct eviction vote against David.
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I just think it's lame that Marcus is on the chopping block because Siavash arrogantly and erroneously tried to predict who would be nominated.
Yes well, Siavash was gunning for the Ł100K. His gameplan of martyr + victim, whilst being safe with David alongside them in a 3-way, failed.

Ohhh well.
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I just think it's lame that Marcus is on the chopping block because Siavash arrogantly and erroneously tried to predict who would be nominated.
You do realise that Siavashs vote (had he nominated) would of made no difference whatsoever?
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To be honest, I think Marcus would have triumphed handily in a direct eviction vote against David.
That's true. But if Siavash nommed David to make this scenario as likely as possible, he wouldn't look like a hero sacrificing himself. And then a victim for making them all kick off afterwards.

Mickey claims Siavash did this to get back at Lisa. But logically he'd nominate David if he wanted that. David more likely to be up, and more likely to be 1 vs 1 with Marcus = David gone and Lisa upset.

So it clearly wasn't for getting back at Lisa ...
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Who's AhmedFan2004?
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You do realise that Siavashs vote (had he nominated) would of made no difference whatsoever?
This is true, and perhaps the funniest part of it all, lol.
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To be honest, I think Marcus would have triumphed handily in a direct eviction vote against David.
That's true. But if Siavash nommed David to make this scenario as likely as possible, he wouldn't look like a hero sacrificing himself. And then a victim for making them all kick off afterwards.

Mickey claims Siavash did this to get back at Lisa. But logically he'd nominate David if he wanted that. David more likely to be up, and more likely to be 1 vs 1 with Marcus = David gone and Lisa upset.

So it clearly wasn't for getting back at Lisa ...
I am not involved in any dispute on such matters. I was responding directly to a post I took as implying that Marcus would probably have lost a straight vote against David, nothing more.
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