[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by BB fernzy

Craig is an adult, he get's chatting to people in night clubs and they both want the same thing and the person is going to be around the same age as him, it's the same if I went to a nightclub and chatted up a girl and then had a one night stand, it's normal. Kemal only chatted to a person over the internet at the age of 16 and arranged to meet them, for all he knew they could have been an old pervert who could have killed him,leaving him alone at a skip, anything could have happend he was not even an adult, it was dangerous and totally stupid and set's a totally bad example.

The difference between Makosi and saskia talking about sex and Craig talking about one night stands to kemal meeting up with someone from a gay chatroom is big.

How can you possibly know that the people he'd meet would be of similar age? That's just an assumption. And for all you know, the person he met could've been the same or of similar age. You're just assuming once again, because it adds a little more weight to your viewpoint. And who, exactly, is he setting a bad example to?

It's not at all. They all talked about casual encounters with strangers. It doesn't matter what gender, age or sexuality the parties concerned me be, there's just as much risk involved.

[OPL73]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

How can you possibly know that the people he'd meet would be of similar age? That's just an assumption. And for all you know, the person he met could've been the same or of similar age. You're just assuming once again, because it adds a little more weight to your viewpoint. And who, exactly, is he setting a bad example to?

It's not at all. They all talked about casual encounters with strangers. It doesn't matter what gender, age or sexuality the parties concerned me be, there's just as much risk involved.

Wow AndyJK you have competition. Another person who likes having the last word.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Feyt

Tell me Charlottesometimes, would you like YOUR 16 year old son or daughter sneaking out and having sex with someone they not only don't know but someone who could have left him for dead in that skip?

For years we tell our kids, Don't talk to strangers, don't get into strange cars....and more recently we install programs to stop our kids seeing things they shouldn't on the internet. Then a complete idiot like this is allowed to shout and brag about it.


We parents have a hard enough time of keeping our kids out of trouble as it is without silly little girls like Kemal telling us how much fun it was.

Kemal is male. There's quite a difference between nervous bravado and bragging. The footage was shown well after the watershed, when it is to be presumed that those likely to be in any way influenced by such content would be in bed asleep. And Channel 4 decided to broadcast the conversation, not Kemal himself.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by OPL73

And what's with the sly dig about bolstering my opinion?

Who said it wasn't relevant?

... he felt the need to tell millions of viewers that he was sexually active with an "older" stranger at such a young age.

You misquoted me. It's hardly a 'sly dig'.

You did, at the end of your post.

That would be Channel 4.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by OPL73

Wow AndyJK you have competition. Another person who likes having the last word.

Oh dear, and there was me thinking that this was a forum! I post a legitimate comment that garners several quotes and replies. I wasn't aware I needed your consent to reply to those posts. The 'Admin' tag seems to have slipped from your profile - my sincere apologies.

[OPL73]

The word self-opinionated springs to mind. Look it up.

[OPL73]

PS Love the sarcasm

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by OPL73
The word self-opinionated springs to mind. Look it up.

That's actually two words. The adage 'clutching at straws' springs to mind in response.

[OPL73]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

That's actually two words. The adage 'clutching at straws' springs to mind in response.

Splitting hairs. I am responding to this banailty while at work, so I don't have time to look at my grammatical errors.

God, I think I love you. You don't stop do you?

[CharlotteSometimes]

Actually, I'd really like to. I'm starting to feel like a Science substitute, as it goes.

[OPL73]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Actually, I'd really like to. I'm starting to feel like a Science substitute, as it goes.

Yep it's official. I'm in love with you. That last post floored me.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Awww, well here's some grapes to speed your recovery. I know it's actually a painting of grapes, but at least they'll never spoil.

[SMC]

Do we really care wether he spits or swallows? man that was rank and should of been edited out..get him out

[CharlotteSometimes]

No probs - those are seedless grapes.

[Kore]

what kemal said was not pleasant....bleugh

[ThaGazBoi]

lol

[Dan_]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

How can you possibly know that the people he'd meet would be of similar age? That's just an assumption. And for all you know, the person he met could've been the same or of similar age. You're just assuming once again, because it adds a little more weight to your viewpoint. And who, exactly, is he setting a bad example to?

It's not at all. They all talked about casual encounters with strangers. It doesn't matter what gender, age or sexuality the parties concerned me be, there's just as much risk involved.

Craig is hardly going to go after some old bloke in a nightclub is he, people who usually frequent the type of nightclubs that Craig goes to would be of his own age. I am stating facts about the man that Kemal met and that is he was older, I don't need more weight added to my viewpoint because I am just stating the facts. Kemal is setting a bad example to impressionable young people that watch the show and who think it is right to go on internet chatrooms and then to arrange to meet these people, it's not safe and it is not the right message to send out.

What you seem to be forgetting about these so called 'casual encounters' is that Craig is an ADULT whilst Kemal was still only 16, I don't care what arguement you put across what Kemal did was foolish and very dangerous. The other housemates partners do not even come into it as far I am concerned because whilst they might be having one night stands with people they barely know they are adults and the intention is clear but in Kemal's case it was not.

It is totally ignorant to suggest that the risk is the same in all cases.

[Feyt]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Kemal is male. There's quite a difference between nervous bravado and bragging. The footage was shown well after the watershed, when it is to be presumed that those likely to be in any way influenced by such content would be in bed asleep. And Channel 4 decided to broadcast the conversation, not Kemal himself.

Kemal is male! AND? Nervous bravado is what he probably used when he was 16, bragging(at least in this case)is what you do when you tell people about your sexual exploits. How many 15/16 do you think watch BB? Probably at least half of its viewers are teenagers. I never said Kemal broadcast the show. If you read my original post on here you will see that I said I was disgusted with Channel 4 for airing it.

[ThaGazBoi]

thats true

[Feyt]

Originally posted by BB fernzy

Craig is hardly going to go after some old bloke in a nightclub is he, people who usually frequent the type of nightclubs that Craig goes to would be of his own age. I am stating facts about the man that Kemal met and that is he was older, I don't need more weight added to my viewpoint because I am just stating the facts. Kemal is setting a bad example to impressionable young people that watch the show and who think it is right to go on internet chatrooms and then to arrange to meet these people, it's not safe and it is not the right message to send out.

What you seem to be forgetting about these so called 'casual encounters' is that Craig is an ADULT whilst Kemal was still only 16, I don't care what arguement you put across what Kemal did was foolish and very dangerous. The other housemates partners do not even come into it as far I am concerned because whilst they might be having one night stands with people they barely know they are adults and the intention is clear but in Kemal's case it was not.

It is totally ignorant to suggest that the risk is the same in all cases.

[OPL73]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
No probs - those are seedless grapes.

Class. Even if you like the look of your own writing.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by BB fernzy

Craig is hardly going to go after some old bloke in a nightclub is he, people who usually frequent the type of nightclubs that Craig goes to would be of his own age. I am stating facts about the man that Kemal met and that is he was older, I don't need more weight added to my viewpoint because I am just stating the facts. Kemal is setting a bad example to impressionable young people that watch the show and who think it is right to go on internet chatrooms and then to arrange to meet these people, it's not safe and it is not the right message to send out.

What you seem to be forgetting about these so called 'casual encounters' is that Craig is an ADULT whilst Kemal was still only 16, I don't care what arguement you put across what Kemal did was foolish and very dangerous. The other housemates partners do not even come into it as far I am concerned because whilst they might be having one night stands with people they barely know they are adults and the intention is clear but in Kemal's case it was not.

It is totally ignorant to suggest that the risk is the same in all cases.

Not true. I live fairly close to Garlands in Liverpool, which is one of the most popular gay clubs in England. It's won club of the year in Mixmag a few times, too. I've been there many times, and can confirm that there are plenty of people that go there that are quite a bit older than Craig. So, to follow your point through to its logical conclusion, why haven't there been any press reports about Dolcis selling out of size 8 stilettos and there being a surprising shortage in the availability of extra-long saris? If teenagers are watching BB, then their parents should be monitoring their viewing a little more closely. That's the whole point in having a watershed in the first place, and the reason why every late night BB show starts with a warning about language and nudity.

What you seem to be forgetting is that, whether his account was fantasy or not, Kemal said quite distinctly that he deliberately set out to make contact with someone with the sole intention of having just such an encounter. He wasn't 'groomed' or 'coerced' into anything. If you really think that a teenager that's sexually confused is going to listen to what Kemal said, and then think 'I'd really like to orally satisfy a man at three-o-clock in the morning, inside a skip', then email me your address - you've won this month's luxury hamper (I've already eaten the Edinburgh shortbread and Ye Olde Oak hotdog sausages though, I'm afraid).

Okay, whatever. You take the high road and I'll take the low road ... but I'll look better in a kilt than you.

Bone, meat, stripped of - rearrange to suit.

[SMC]

im not reading these long posts but whatever, i'll agree with the person who hates Kemal

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Feyt

Kemal is male! AND? Nervous bravado is what he probably used when he was 16, bragging(at least in this case)is what you do when you tell people about your sexual exploits. How many 15/16 do you think watch BB? Probably at least half of its viewers are teenagers. I never said Kemal broadcast the show. If you read my original post on here you will see that I said I was disgusted with Channel 4 for airing it.

Make your mind up! He was a 'silly little girl' in your previous post. Not at all. He was quite clearly prepared to go to any lengths at that particular moment to shut Makosi up. He resorted to shock tactics to do it. But if you want to believe that he said that deliberately in an attempt to corrupt the nation's youth, then you're entitled to your opinion, of course. Best put padlocks on your wardrobe just incase though, huh?

[OPL73]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
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Not true. I live fairly close to Garlands in Liverpool, which is one of the most popular gay clubs in England. It's won club of the year in Mixmag a few times, too. I've been there many times, and can confirm that there are plenty of people that go there that are quite a bit older than Craig. So, to follow your point through to its logical conclusion, why haven't there been any press reports about Dolcis selling out of size 8 stilettos and there being a surprising shortage in the availability of extra-long saris? If teenagers are watching BB, then their parents should be monitoring their viewing a little more closely. That's the whole point in having a watershed in the first place, and the reason why every late night BB show starts with a warning about language and nudity.

What you seem to be forgetting is that, whether his account was fantasy or not, Kemal said quite distinctly that he deliberately set out to make contact with someone with the sole intention of having just such an encounter. He wasn't 'groomed' or 'coerced' into anything. If you really think that a teenager that's sexually confused is going to listen to what Kemal said, and then think 'I'd really like to orally satisfy a man at three-o-clock in the morning, inside a skip', then email me your address - you've won this month's luxury hamper (I've already eaten the Edinburgh shortbread and Ye Olde Oak hotdog sausages though, I'm afraid).

Okay, whatever. You take the high road and I'll take the low road ... but I'll look better in a kilt than you.

Bone, meat, stripped of - rearrange to suit. [/quote]

Funniest thing I have read for a while. Last word again. Self opinionated just as I thought. Charlotte, you have to respect the parent's opinion on this one surely?

P.S. To follow on from your 'logical' babble. Why hasn't there been any press reports about Makosi's 'fro? Or what was the 'fro?