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Old 28-09-2009, 01:12 PM #26
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The only other countries where it went to a public vote to my knowledge were France and the Netherlands. Both rejected it.

The very fact that EU members were not allowed to vote on something which directly affects them is an absoloute disgrace. Why do we continue to wank ourselevs off as being free peoples in a democracy? We are not! in all likelyhood, the bastards in the dail are going to get there way this time.

If people would look at the big issues and read the damn thing, instead of worrying about how many notes are in there wallets. You want to beat the recession? Change your damn ways. Most Irish people are far too arrogant. We bitch and moan about the economy but make virtually no changes to our lifestyle. Why listen to Fianna Fail now? Why let Nicholas Sarkozy and the others, the big wigs who want the treaty because it works to THERE globalised advantage, win?

People before profit!
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I agree ProbeEight, but unfortunately I think because of the predicament the countries in at the moment, there will be many people who'll be inclined to vote Yes in an attempt to steady the ship, you know? In the same way they kept Fianna Fail in during last general election when times were still quite good and people were unwilling to take a gamble on a new government.
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If it's a YES then I think it's the biggest mistake this country will make and will seriously think of moving.
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[rquote=2611714&tid=147985&author=setanta]I agree ProbeEight, but unfortunately I think because of the predicament the countries in at the moment, there will be many people who'll be inclined to vote Yes in an attempt to steady the ship, you know? In the same way they kept Fianna Fail in during last general election when times were still quite good and people were unwilling to take a gamble on a new government.[/rquote]
Yep, that seems to be the general line, but people should look to there past mistakes, i.e. voting Fianna Fail back in.

The thing is your right, yes, it will steady the ship, but I am more concerned with where this ship is going. Thats what people tend not to think about.

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[rquote=2611960&tid=147985&author=ProbeEight][rquote=2611714&tid=147985&author=setanta]I agree ProbeEight, but unfortunately I think because of the predicament the countries in at the moment, there will be many people who'll be inclined to vote Yes in an attempt to steady the ship, you know? In the same way they kept Fianna Fail in during last general election when times were still quite good and people were unwilling to take a gamble on a new government.[/rquote]
Yep, that seems to be the general line, but people should look to there past mistakes, i.e. voting Fianna Fail back in.

The thing is your right, yes, it will steady the ship, but I am more concerned with where this ship is going. Thats what people tend not to think about.

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I agree with you and hopefully this whole NAMA thing will steer people in the right direction.
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it appears its gonna be a yes
**** it anyway
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Were sunked! Its going to be yes, cause people are afraid if they vote NO, they wont hae the money for that new BMW they wanted!

By Jesus Cowen et al, bettter get the short shift at the next election or I might move to spain!
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[rquote=2612000&tid=147985&author=bansheewails]Were sunked! Its going to be yes, cause people are afraid if they vote NO, they wont hae the money for that new BMW they wanted!

By Jesus Cowen et al, bettter get the short shift at the next election or I might move to spain![/rquote]

Considering jumping ship myself at this stage.
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At least spain has good weather to be miserable in! And fags are cheap!
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Nah if I leave im getting the **** out of Europe altogether....
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[rquote=2612083&tid=147985&author=Iceman]Nah if I leave im getting the **** out of Europe altogether....[/rquote]

I think I'm with you there.
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Austrailia here i come!
once i turn..like 21 that is
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Where though? I would never move to America is too creepy, Australia is too far away from family!
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Im all for going to somewhere like China or Cambodia...
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Spain for me!!
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[rquote=2612405&tid=147985&author=Niamhxo]Spain for me!![/rquote]

I know people who run a pub in Spain so I could go there but I just want out of Europe altogether you know?
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[rquote=2612409&tid=147985&author=Iceman][rquote=2612405&tid=147985&author=Niamhxo]Spain for me!![/rquote]

I know people who run a pub in Spain so I could go there but I just want out of Europe altogether you know?[/rquote]

I have a summer house in Spain, I love it there.The language is the only turn off, I'm crap at learning new languages!!!
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[rquote=2612455&tid=147985&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2612409&tid=147985&author=Iceman][rquote=2612405&tid=147985&author=Niamhxo]Spain for me!![/rquote]

I know people who run a pub in Spain so I could go there but I just want out of Europe altogether you know?[/rquote]

I have a summer house in Spain, I love it there.The language is the only turn off, I'm cr*p at learning new languages!!![/rquote]

Looks more and more likely that its going to be a YES vote.... what an absolute ****ing shambles...
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I hope not, everyone 've spoken to said they were voting no
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[rquote=2612465&tid=147985&author=Niamhxo]I hope not, everyone 've spoken to said they were voting no[/rquote]

same but, going by all news sources its looking like a YES...
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where do they get their figures from? surveys? I just find it very insulting that our government didn't respect our original decision.They're supposed to do what we want not the other way around!
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[rquote=2612478&tid=147985&author=Niamhxo]where do they get their figures from? surveys? I just find it very insulting that our government didn't respect our original decision.They're supposed to do what we want not the other way around![/rquote]

Our governments a shambles.

They didnt read the treaty the first time round, so do you really expect them to give us any respect????
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we let the ****ers get away with **** though, steal a load of money from us?? Grand here's abig fat bonus!! Any other country they would have all been ****ed out of there!!
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As Arista would say:

Sign Of The Times..


We should have had more of a say after the whole Celtic Tiger debacle.....
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yeah, Brian Cowen should be out of there anyway for a start
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