[setanta]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Rachel, she just isn't selling to the public they don't like her.

3 times in 4 weeks she has been bottom 2 it was right time, if not she would have only gone to a better singer later on anyway.

Simon rightfully put it to deadlock, i believe they should do that every week, why should 4 people judge who goes out over 14million, after all they are the ones who buy the records.

Lloyd wont win and will be out within 2 weeks anyway.

This public not voting for you argument holds no water for me because Eoghan Quigg had massive support on the show and where is he now? I think his single came 94 in the Irish charts!

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Christina

I agree Marc. They may aswell just make it deadlock from now on. If the judges can hardly ever make a decision what's the bloody point?

Only problem with that is when a good singer is below a crap one in the vote, unless they had an american idol vote where the judges can save 1 person per series if they recieved the lowest amount of votes

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

Only problem with that is when a good singer is below a crap one in the vote, unless they had an american idol vote where the judges can save 1 person per series if they recieved the lowest amount of votes

That was a great power thing, saved my favourite.

But yeah, they should have it for sure, bit of a waste of voting but it'd stop undeserved shock exits.

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

That was a great power thing, saved my favourite.

But yeah, they should have it for sure, bit of a waste of voting but it'd stop undeserved shock exits.

Yep, could really help with the Week 5 "curse"

[Z]

Half the problem lies within the fact that by default, two of the judges can't make a decision because their acts are in the bottom two (apart from weeks where a judge has two acts in the bottom two); so it puts the decision down to the two other judges. ONE judge will give a genuine vote for who they think should go; and the other one will chicken out of being the bad guy and take it to deadlock.

The judges should not be getting a say in this; they are redundant.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Zee

Half the problem lies within the fact that by default, two of the judges can't make a decision because their acts are in the bottom two (apart from weeks where a judge has two acts in the bottom two); so it puts the decision down to the two other judges. ONE judge will give a genuine vote for who they think should go; and the other one will chicken out of being the bad guy and take it to deadlock.

The judges should not be getting a say in this; they are redundant.

Very true. Its stupid how the judges just save their own

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Rachel, she just isn't selling to the public they don't like her.

3 times in 4 weeks she has been bottom 2 it was right time, if not she would have only gone to a better singer later on anyway.

Simon rightfully put it to deadlock, i believe they should do that every week, why should 4 people judge who goes out over 14million, after all they are the ones who buy the records.

Lloyd wont win and will be out within 2 weeks anyway.

Are you kidding! Those 4 judges have better taste than the general public. Too many teenage hormones voting these days. Without the judges - talented people need not apply - just untalented teenage boys.

[MattBlake]

Lloyd.
Simon needs to learn to be FAIR.
fuk himm.
rachel was amazing.
lloyd was...well he was... CRAP..

[Firewire]

John & Edward.

[Callum]

Lloyd Daniels, the taffy.

[bronaaaa]

Rachel is a better singer in all fairness, but Simon made a good point, she wasn't getting the votes because people don't like her, so I'm split. I'm glad she went but I'm not sure if she should of..

[bettiepage]

I don't really get the point in the sing off when they never judge the contestants on those last two performances.

[Stacey.]

no way... lloyd is by far way more likeable... better voice,, good looks.
i could go on.
this was rachels 3rd time in the bottom 2!!
how could she possibly survive again?!
so happy tonight!!

[Jack_]

Rachel. Three times in the bottom two, she wouldn't have won, end of.

Also for Lloyd to have gone home on the first time in the bottom two and with a sore throat would've been very unfair.

[Z]

Good point Rice_square; more often than not they don't even make their decision based on the bottom two performances - what is the point in it?

[Tom4784]

It's not an easy decision, Rachel was in the bottom 2 three weeks out of four but Lloyd wasn't as good but was ill. I think it was the right decision to go to the public vote as it wouldn't have been fair on either contestant going to a judge's vote. I think I'd have probably sent home Lloyd but then again Rachel was just gonna end up in the bottom 2 next week so I don't actually know.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by courtney123

no way... lloyd is by far way more likeable... better voice,, good looks.
i could go on.
this was rachels 3rd time in the bottom 2!!
how could she possibly survive again?!
so happy tonight!!

What has looks got to do with a singing competition. You have confirmed my point - that you vote for who you fancy - not who deserves to win based on talent. How could anyone honestly say that Lloyd is a better singer than Rachel. If you really think that - you need to get your ears tested.

If the best looking young guys are always going to win the show - regardless of talent - the show will collapse as people won't bother any more. The show could end up just like bb. Is that what you want?

[Christina]

Originally Posted by Rice_square

I don't really get the point in the sing off when they never judge the contestants on those last two performances.

VERY true!

[Tom]

For 4 judges to work they need to axe the whole mentor thing and all 4 collectively mentor all 4

[Princess]

Rachel,I like Lloyd

[MrGaryy]

I can;t understand how anyone can place Rachel under Lloyd. She's not as likable perhaps or good looking, but he can;t sing to save his life, or place in this competition as proven tonight LOL.