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Enid · 05-05-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

It's not narrow-mindedness.
Feel free to explain to me why you think murdering a life is acceptable, i'm all ears.

Lol, "murder". It isn't a life. It isn't even a human being. Sorry, but we are clearly very different people. Maybe I don't value "human life" as much as you do, but I do value freedom of choice.

NOTHING is right or wrong, it is merely opinion. There is absolutely nothing to say murder or abortion is wrong. I don't have to explain why I think abortion is right. I've already been through it anyway.

Damn, this is just annoying as those "MEAT IS MURDER" protests.

Lucy. · 05-05-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

There is absolutely nothing to say murder is wrong.

Psychopath much?

Enid · 05-05-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

Psychopath much?

You don't get what I'm saying. To say murder is wrong is not a fact. It is an opinion. I never said I think murder is right. Oh, well, I am pro-choice, so maybe I did, hehe.

Crimson Dynamo · 05-05-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

Lol, "murder". It isn't a life. It isn't even a human being. Sorry, but we are clearly very different people. Maybe I don't value "human life" as much as you do, but I do value freedom of choice.

NOTHING is right or wrong, it is merely opinion. There is absolutely nothing to say murder or abortion is wrong. I don't have to explain why I think abortion is right. I've already been through it anyway.

Damn, this is just annoying as those "MEAT IS MURDER" protests.

"It isn't even a human being"

why?

explain

Enid · 05-05-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"It isn't even a human being"

why?

explain

Sorry, but I'm not going to try to rationalise with a religious nut. We are going to bump heads on pretty much everything.

Stu · 05-05-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

It's not narrow-mindedness.
Feel free to explain to me why you think murdering a life is acceptable, i'm all ears.

So your a hardcore vegan who takes care not to step on flowers or squish bugs?

Life is experience. The good things, the bad things. Life begins at birth. Before that you are an empty template. I have no problem with women aborting foetuses in the early stages. What is it exactly? Where do you draw the line?

If you consider an aborted foetus to be killing a life, then I'm rubbing a few civilizations off my chest with a tissue after I have a wank, surely? Where do you draw the line?

To me life is thought. Not a series of biological functions by an organism in the early stages of it's development. If your all for saving a 'life' which countless other species are capabale of dwarfing in terms of cognitive function, then you had better not be eating chicken tonight. After all, it exhibits far more signs of life than a fucking egg.

Lucy. · 05-05-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Life begins at birth. Before that you are an empty template.

An empty template that can feel pain.
Right on.

Stu · 05-05-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

An empty template that can feel pain.
Right on.

Virtually every animal on the planet can feel pain. It's hardly a hallmark of human life.

Lucy. · 05-05-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Virtually every animal on the planet can feel pain.

I am not disputing that. All i'm saying is that i don't think it's right to kill a baby when in the majority of cases if you hadn't wanted one you could have avoided it in the first place.

Enid · 05-05-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

An empty template that can feel pain.
Right on.

Very later on in the pregnancy. To say that a little foetus or embryo can feel pain is just moronic.

Lucy. · 05-05-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

To say that a little foetus or embryo can feel pain is just moronic.

I never said they could. If you look i have never actually said anything about abortion very early on, that's a different thing to killing a foetus which is actually a life.

Crimson Dynamo · 05-05-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

Very later on in the pregnancy. To say that a little foetus or embryo can feel pain is just moronic.

It is not moronic and unless you can back that up I would not make the call. I am still waiting on your rape stats?

Crimson Dynamo · 05-05-2010, 02:56 PM

http://www.cbrinfo.org/

This is not for the feint hearted so dont go there (ie warning).

Crimson Dynamo · 05-05-2010, 03:17 PM

http://womensissues.about.com/od/rep...ionArgumen.htm

Crimson Dynamo · 05-05-2010, 04:16 PM

When a pregnant woman, one who intends to have the baby born, looses that baby the reaction is always as if that baby is alive and a real human (same if she is murdered or dies). noone ever says "oh well at least it was not a human" and so forth...

Enid · 05-05-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When a pregnant woman, one who intends to have the baby born, looses that baby the reaction is always as if that baby is alive and a real human (same if she is murdered or dies). noone ever says "oh well at least it was not a human" and so forth...

I assume because it was a wanted pregnancy. Nobody is going to say "at least it was not a human" because that would be an arsey thing to do.

Different attitude altogether.

Crimson Dynamo · 05-05-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

I assume because it was a wanted pregnancy. Nobody is going to say "at least it was not a human" because that would be an arsey thing to do.

Different attitude altogether.

Stu · 06-05-2010, 06:57 AM

... wow, the self imposed ban didn't last long, did it?

WOMBAI · 06-05-2010, 07:00 AM

Anything - to disappoint you! Comments such as 'now Wombai has gone' just a red rag to a bull!

Stu · 06-05-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Anything - to disappoint you! Comments such as 'now Wombai has gone' just a red rag to a bull!

And comments such as 'he will be back, he needs TIBB more than it needs him!' are fondly remembered by yours truley, especially in light of the fact that I never left, and you did. It's hillarious. Super hillarious.

WOMBAI · 06-05-2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu

And comments such as 'he will be back, he needs TIBB more than it needs him!' are fondly remembered by yours truley, especially in light of the fact that I never left, and you did. It's hillarious. Super hillarious.

Touched a nerve did I! Remember away!

Stu · 06-05-2010, 07:13 AM

No, no, no nerves. It's just ... pretty damn hillarious. Funny watching you try and turn it back with abstract, meaningless 'touched a nerve' comments, too. Just damn good fun, s'all I'm saying. I think I'm at peace. I have this to look back at anytime I feel like I am getting worked up on here.

I can smile. It's great.

WOMBAI · 06-05-2010, 07:22 AM

So happy to hear you are at peace with yourself!

Until the next time the spaceman spies some more bandwagons to jump upon!

Stu · 06-05-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

So happy to hear you are at peace with yourself!

Until the next time the spaceman spies some more bandwagons to jump upon!

Some more?

That would indicate that I have jumped on bandwagons in the past. Do tell. I believe you may be full of shit. Cashing cheques with your keyboard that you can't prove later on is part of your reputation, right?

Anyway, congratulations on a highly successful forum exodus.

WOMBAI · 06-05-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Some more?

That would indicate that I have jumped on bandwagons in the past. Do tell. I believe you may be full of shit. Cashing cheques with your keyboard that you can't prove later on is part of your reputation, right?

Anyway, congratulations on a highly successful forum exodus.

Speaking of sh*t .....!

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