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Crimson Dynamo · 07-06-2010, 07:21 AM

whilst the people who did 9/11 were murderers and had nothing to do with Islam (they may have mistakenly thought they did, they were wrong)

this would be a silly idea and would be like planning to open a gun club in Whitehaven.

ie guns are not the problem, madmen are - but lets not open a gunclub anytime soon..

BB_Eye · 07-06-2010, 02:09 PM

Horrible idea and an insult to the dead victims that appears to have been put forward by a bunch of nepotistic muslim property developers and the ominously named American Society for Muslim Advancement from the sounds of that article.

Tom4784 · 07-06-2010, 02:15 PM

It's quite an inflammatory idea and probably not the best proposition for the sake of safety of it's practitioners.

Tom4784 · 07-06-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Board member Rob Townley said: "The mosque is a seed of peace. We believe that this is significant step in the Muslim community to counteract the hate and fanaticism in the minority of the community."

Manhattan Borough president Scott Stringer said supporting the centre "sent a clear message that our city is one that promotes diversity and tolerance".

"At the same time, we have to balance diversity and look for opportunities to bring different groups together."

These people are obsessed with appeasing Muslims and preaching diversity (PC all the way) - at the expense of the dead, their families and the Western world as a whole! They are not fit to be allowed to make such decisions!

I can see their point but I can see this being met with violent opposition if it goes through. Maybe have it near but not on Ground Zero since it'll only result in potential casualties.

Angus · 07-06-2010, 05:44 PM

The day that Christians are allowed to build a church at Mecca is the day I would accept that Islam truly embraces diversity and tolerance.

InOne · 07-06-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The day that Christians are allowed to build a church at Mecca is the day I would accept that Islam truly embraces diversity and tolerance.

None Muslims aren't even allowed in Medina are they?

Angus · 07-06-2010, 05:56 PM

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None Muslims aren't even allowed in Medina are they?

My point exactly.

InOne · 07-06-2010, 05:59 PM

This was kinda annoying. Hate overkeen converts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqShJ1Z__Bg

Barbie · 07-06-2010, 06:04 PM

it wasn't the religion that destroyed the twin towers, it was extremists, but i still dont see how plonking a mosque on ground zero will help anything. Just upset people, it should stay as a memory, or have a tribute building made that isnt anything to do with anything, just dedicated to the twin towers

InOne · 07-06-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

it wasn't the religion that destroyed the twin towers, it was extremists, but i still dont see how plonking a mosque on ground zero will help anything. Just upset people, it should stay as a memory, or have a tribute building made that isnt anything to do with anything, just dedicated to the twin towers

Yes but the religion itself isn't particularly great either is it?

Barbie · 07-06-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Yes but the religion itself isn't particularly great either is it?

Well to be fair i've never heard of a christian terrorist so i suppose not,

Angus · 07-06-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

Well to be fair i've never heard of a christian terrorist so i suppose not,

There's the IRA - Catholic Christians. Another extremist group hiding behind religion to excuse the atrocities they committed. Difference being they didn't go round blowing up muslims.

InOne · 07-06-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

Well to be fair i've never heard of a christian terrorist so i suppose not,

I'm not talking about terrorists though. Islam is far from peace.

Barbie · 07-06-2010, 06:24 PM

I just think religion is bad a whole and just causes trouble. I don't know much about extremist's i thought the IRA were about britains taking over part of Ireland.

Tom4784 · 07-06-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

Well to be fair i've never heard of a christian terrorist so i suppose not,

But then again look to the past. Witch hunts, The crusades etc. It's not right to blame everyone who follows a religion but Religion tends to bring out the worst in people.

InOne · 07-06-2010, 06:41 PM

I'd like to think 'Opium of the masses' does not apply anymore. But I think it still does

Angus · 07-06-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

I just think religion is bad a whole and just causes trouble. I don't know much about extremist's i thought the IRA were about britains taking over part of Ireland.

The IRA is/was a predominantly political organisation that sought independence from Britain, the roots of resentment being historically inextricably bound up with the Catholic faith. The IRA often exploited the religious affiliations of the Irish people to draw them into the republican ideology, and thus enveigle them to commit atrocities in the name of the Cause. The IRA were never fussy about their targets; politicians, civilians, children, old folk - it was all the same to them. Much like the so called "islamic" terrorists we have these days. Religion is a very convenient and acceptable umbrella to lurk under when extremists want to legitimise their evil actions.

30stone · 07-06-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The day that Christians are allowed to build a church at Mecca is the day I would accept that Islam truly embraces diversity and tolerance.

Lol.

and that will never happen.

BB_Eye · 07-06-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

it wasn't the religion that destroyed the twin towers, it was extremists, but i still dont see how plonking a mosque on ground zero will help anything. Just upset people, it should stay as a memory, or have a tribute building made that isnt anything to do with anything, just dedicated to the twin towers

Quite right. It is ridiculously insensitive... bordering on malicious, but then what do you expect from the apparent decision-makers in this?

cupid stunt · 14-06-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...he-911-mosque/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4

What is this madness :/ Surely can't go ahead.

and people LAFF when i say muslims want to take over, they want to kill and torture every single white and black man, they want blood running through the streets, they will drink our blood and laugh at us for not stopping them
WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END? WHEN WILL WE TAKE OUR COUNTRYS BACK FROM THESE NUTCASES?

BOOSH · 14-06-2010, 01:18 PM

Wtf

Vicky. · 14-06-2010, 01:23 PM

This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

Will it ever end?

InOne · 03-08-2010, 02:35 PM

Still being talked about, not looking good :/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/03...d-zero-mosque/

Vicky. · 03-08-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The day that Christians are allowed to build a church at Mecca is the day I would accept that Islam truly embraces diversity and tolerance.

BB_Eye · 03-08-2010, 03:11 PM

For anyone interested, the mosque will be located in the circled area.

Its description as a Ground Zero Mosque is something of a half-truth/distortion, but I still think the idea is hugely insensitive and an insult to 9/11 victims.

The fact that Mayor Bloomberg is supporting the project beggars belief. New Yorkers should vote his ass out if they had any sense.

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