[MTVN]

I quite liked him at the start, although watching the videos of him "drunk" and reading about his church made me a bit wary of him. Having said that, I just cant dislike the guy, I think he really is a nice guy, and is genuine enough, and the whole "drunk on the Lord" thing may not be something I agree with but I dont think there's anything sinister behind it

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I quite liked him at the start, although watching the videos of him "drunk" and reading about his church made me a bit wary of him. Having said that, I just cant dislike the guy, I think he really is a nice guy, and is genuine enough, and the whole "drunk on the Lord" thing may not be something I agree with but I dont think there's anything sinister behind it

The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.

- All churches seek funding
- All churches try and appeal to the wider public
- All churches claim God heals

What makes Dave's church a "cult"?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

- All churches seek funding
- All churches try and appeal to the wider public
- All churches claim God heals

What makes Dave's church a "cult"?

In religion and sociology, a cult is a group of people devoted to beliefs and goals which are not held by the majority of society, often religious in nature. Its marginal status may come about either due to its novel belief system or due to idiosyncratic practices that cause the surrounding culture to regard it as far outside the mainstream.

It is a cult by definition.

[Zippy]

His fake laughter and OTT bubbliness. Annoying.

As is his sudden playfullness with Caoimhe. Both acting fake to save each other from eviction.

I don't even need to start with the bible stuff...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

His fake laughter and OTT bubbliness. Annoying.

As is his sudden playfullness with Caoimhe. Both acting fake to save each other from eviction.

I don't even need to start with the bible stuff...

"Fake bubbliness" says you with a photo of Corin !!! pot ......kettle ?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

"Fake bubbliness" says you with a photo of Corin !!! pot ......kettle ?

She doesn't roll about laughing at the slightest joke or playfight with HMs she can't stand. Thanks.

And her upbeat nature isnt fake, actually.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Zippy

She doesn't roll about laughing at the slightest joke or playfight with HMs she can't stand. Thanks.

And her upbeat nature isnt fake, actually.

Or pretend to be pissed on the love of god...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

She doesn't roll about laughing at the slightest joke or playfight with HMs she can't stand. Thanks.

And her upbeat nature isnt fake, actually.

Yes she does !!! ffs

[flamingGalah!]

Dave is at best a serious mental head case loon, who actually believes in the sh*t that he spouts... and at worst a complete con man... You decide

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes she does !!! ffs

No she doesn't!!! ffs

And you're hardly the voice of reason.

[BB_Eye]

I lost all respect for him after that business with Steve's leg offering to take it out of the prize money (Shabby was just as bad, mind you). It was so low.

He's an excellent gameplayer though, credit where credit is due.

[vesavius]

The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.

Totally agree ,why is he allowed in there so raise cash for a sick cult ?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Totally agree ,why is he allowed in there so raise cash for a sick cult ?

I think it's because they yet havent actively broken any laws. It seems people think that if they havent then they must be ethically sound.

I don't think anyone who has done any reading of cults and how they potentiolly destroy lives (which has been historically proven) would defend the promotion of the New Ecstatics by C4.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.

He is a contestant on a game show - you're not interviewing him for a job fgs!

I had never heard of him before he went on bb - and if his group were under any kind of investigation for dubious conduct - I'm sure we would have heard about it - and he wouldn't have applied to go on bb in the first place!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He is a contestant on a game show - you're not interviewing him for a job fgs!

I had never heard of him before he went on bb - and if his group were under any kind of investigation for dubious conduct - I'm sure we would have heard about it - and he wouldn't have applied to go on bb in the first place!

He is not just a "contestant on a game show" he is a contestant on a game show with an agenda to big up his fraudelent cult,who take money from cancer victims

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He is a contestant on a game show - you're not interviewing him for a job fgs!

A gameshow he has entered based on his character and motivations. I reserve the right to examine them both as part of it.

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I had never heard of him before he went on bb - and if his group were under any kind of investigation for dubious conduct - I'm sure we would have heard about it - and he wouldn't have applied to go on bb in the first place!

Nothing I have said about his cult is untrue though.

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nothing I have said about his cult is untrue though.

Yes it is. The thing is, I know him personally and have done for ten years, you've seen him on a Tv show.

God heals people, get over it.

[Mr XcX]

DAVE is spending our DOSH!!!! Thats why!!!!!
I hate DAVE. SLYIER THAT SLYIVASH.
I think he may make it to the FINAL like Mohammed BB9!!!!!!

[Starcus]

I love him too now although I despised him in the first 2 weeks. I still really hate his drunk on god thing though, it's ridiculous.

[Mr XcX]

Keeley exposed him for the cheat he is. Notice how the LORDS not mentioned any more. To avoid his ass from nomination. Must take lessons from Josie.

[fruit_cake]

you are in remission? best wishes chuff if thats the case, a good friend of mine is terminally ill will cervical cancer and anyone who tries to make money out of those situations is really nasty.. i don't like Dave when caoimhe questioned him he spouted out a load of rubbish and made it look like it was her who was in the wrong i don't like him at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

you are in remission? best wishes chuff if thats the case, a good friend of mine is terminally ill will cervical cancer and anyone who tries to make money out of those situations is really nasty.. i don't like Dave when caoimhe questioned him he spouted out a load of rubbish and made it look like it was her who was in the wrong i don't like him at all.

Yes I am ,this vile disease has ruined ALL my families lives and this no mark conman cashes in on it ? hate him and his followers

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes I am ,this vile disease has ruined ALL my families lives and this no mark conman cashes in on it ? hate him and his followers