[delnaja]

I think theres a side to josie not yet seen.

I reckon theres a foul bitchy temper stashed away and a few ciders and it will come crashing out.

[Livia]

I don't like Josie AT ALL. She tries too hard to be funny, she is totally aware of the cameras and some of the things she says make me cringe. If some pretty girls go in on Friday, watch how fast JJ drops her. I think we'll see a bit more of the real Josie then.

[bbfan1991]

I like Josie a lot, she is entertaining and funny to me.. she has shown a bit of a darker side too but at least she isn't sitting on the fence or unlike Steve and Corin will sail through to the final.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by delnaja

I think theres a side to josie not yet seen.

I reckon theres a foul bitchy temper stashed away and a few ciders and it will come crashing out.

maybe talk what you have seen rather then what you havent?

*filed in the 'just more mud slinging with no real events or proof to talk about' drawer with all the others.*

[Visage]

Originally Posted by delnaja

I think theres a side to josie not yet seen.

I reckon theres a foul bitchy temper stashed away and a few ciders and it will come crashing out.

Yes, I think there is more to her than what we've seen.

[Pink Pegasus]

Vesavious- I didn't just have an automatic bias which made me see things she did in a bad light. I didn't have any real strong opinions on her at first, it was her actions that I've outlined that cause me to dislike her, so I think you are incorrect to say that I only have these opinions for the sake of "mud slinging" or that I only have these opinions because I already dislike her-I didn't already dislike her or have any bias to begin with, it was her very actions that caused me to dislike her.

When I said "I haven't made my mind up fully on her yet", I'm not pretending to be neutral.
I don't really like her as I've stated, but I don't hate her either. There are people I like even less than her in the house.
The thing I haven't made my mind up on about her, is whether or not I am right in my suspicions that she causes arguments. I haven't made my mind up fully whether she does it on purpose, or if she just seems to put her foot in it at times. I am suspicious of her though.

I guess it all depends on how each person reads the situations that we are shown. I see her actions in a way that makes me suspicious, you see things in a different light in which her actions are more favorable.
Some examples:
You see that she said things to Sunshine's face-which I agree she did. I also saw that whenever the conversation started to die down over the crisps, Josie kept bringing it up again to the other girls.

You see her as only explaining her side of things to Nathan. I see her as doing it right beside Shabby, when they had just been discussing it, she knew Shabby was mad about it, she knew it was part of Shabby's reasons for wanting to leave, yet she still decided to bring the issue up right there and then,right beside Shabby, all the while knowing Shabby was very angry about the situation.

Regarding "seeing another side to Corin", in your opinion that's all she said. Don't have anything wrong with her saying that, it was more the context she said it in. A conversation was taking place regarding Corin being fake, and hiding her true self when she said it, to me it appeared she was agreeing that she believes Corin is fake, but then says she likes her?

Again we just read the situations differently. I'm not attempting to prove anything, I'm just giving my opinions and my take on a housemate, which everybody on this forum does. I've given my reasons for them, and obviously not everyone will agree with my reasons. I'm willing to accept that my suspicions about her may be wrong, but they are still there nonetheless. You appear to be a fan, and if so of course will not see things in the same light as me.

As for seeing her as "a threat" to Ben[who yes I am a fan of,but can still acknowledge his faults], I don't really think of the housemates in those terms. I don't actually care if she's popular, just wondering the reasons behind it. The only person in that house who I actually really, really do NOT want to win is Caoimhe.

Anyhow thanks to everyone for their replies and opinions.

[Julie10]

I know I am not keen on her at all. I don't like JJs attitude but Josie knows he has a problem and for the pass few days she has been awful to him. If she was a real friend she'd have stuck with him and not isolate him she just became negative and to me laughed and teased him and was not supportive by having digs at him to get him arguing with her.

Especially the day of the party she behaved badly that day and the next day towards him. Now she is back with him because it suits her to be. She started off the argument which led to Shabby leaving. If she was a friend of Nathan she would have asked him that question on his own and not infront of people involved in the bedroom incident.

She also is all up Caoihme arse now and being funny towards Ife when Caoihme had nothing to do with her up until Shabby left. She is a trouble maker waiting to jump on any negative situation and make it worse but trying to come across as nice but dim.

[bansheewails]

Tonights highlights and todays LF have made me love her even more. Josie is hilarious.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

Vesavious- I didn't just have an automatic bias which made me see things she did in a bad light.

Well, so you say. I will never know that I guess.

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

When I said "I haven't made my mind up fully on her yet", I'm not pretending to be neutral.

Sorry, don't buy that at all.

The fact that you presented an overwhelmingly negative take on everything, even blaming her for arguments that she just happened to be in the same room as, didnt demonstrate to me that you were in the middle of any decision making process or indeed that you brought any clarity or objectiveness to your post.

If you had been at all balanced in your points I would have taken you a little more seriously as a valid commentator, but as it is...? Nah, sorry.

It all just came across as shilling tbh.

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

As for seeing her as "a threat" to Ben[who yes I am a fan of]. I don't actually care if she's popular, just wondering the reasons behind it.

I thought you was tbh, I wonder why I guessed that right? I would also guess that you post mainly on DS forums?

As for why is she popular? Just read my sig I guess.