[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I havent seen last nights HLs yet, but have been going off ben a bit recently anyway

yeah since he argued on john james.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

yeah since he argued on john james.

Umm no, not at all.

I just think hes got sort of, boring recently.

[brian3]

The other week he said that we should care more about commonweath countries like Canada and Australia, and give them pride of place over any other country. Puls We sjouldsupport our queen at all times.

If steve had said that he would be branded a brainwashed solider.

[JustKaz]

I was tuning up my pc last night and so put LF on whilst doing it... TWO HOURS ben and JJ were having their debated in the end I just had to turn off it was just going round and round in circles, BEN contradicting himself all the time, patranising JJ about repeating himself, yet BEN kept doing exact the same ( especially when he KEPT bring up JJ agressiveness, which made me think The more BEN kept bringing it into convo the more chance it be in HL, because BEN kept bringing it up when it had already been discussed.

Im sure their discussion went on and on even more so HL will be interesting, because BB can choose 'who looks bad' from it. My opinion is that Ben was trying to make a meal out of nothing, and was failing badly.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by JustKaz

I was tuning up my pc last night and so put LF on whilst doing it... TWO HOURS ben and JJ were having their debated in the end I just had to turn off it was just going round and round in circles, BEN contradicting himself all the time, patranising JJ about repeating himself, yet BEN kept doing exact the same ( especially when he KEPT bring up JJ agressiveness, which made me think The more BEN kept bringing it into convo the more chance it be in HL, because BEN kept bringing it up when it had already been discussed.

Im sure their discussion went on and on even more so HL will be interesting, because BB can choose 'who looks bad' from it. My opinion is that Ben was trying to make a meal out of nothing, and was failing badly.

It'll be condensed and cut to ratsh!t , probably 2 - 3 mins if you're lucky!

[rusticgal]

Its all very well saying lets see Ben/JJ both up this week....but you have to look at the bigger picture.... the rest of them are really dull and without Ben and JJ at least expect some entertainment.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by shaz20

I am sorry but Ben is really irritating me, He can bitch about everybody, but oh thats just a laugh, anyone else bitching gets slagged off!! and he thinks everyone should love him. He is all me me me. This is BB NOT the Ben show!! He is so full of himself and self pity its sickening. Please nominate him and get him out!

No need to be sorry,it's a game,and even if I could nominate him,I wouldn't as I like him.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Its all very well saying lets see Ben/JJ both up this week....but you have to look at the bigger picture.... the rest of them are really dull and without Ben and JJ at least expect some entertainment.

at least if Ben goes he will be away from that thing.

[supergirthuk]

I hope Ben is up and not JJ. And when Ben wins the Save and Replace he put JJ up. How funny would that be?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by supergirthuk

I hope Ben is up and not JJ. And when Ben wins the Save and Replace he put JJ up. How funny would that be?

pmsl,nice oneGawd he'de implode

[JustKaz]

Originally Posted by supergirthuk

I hope Ben is up and not JJ. And when Ben wins the Save and Replace he put JJ up. How funny would that be?

HA HA

An assult course and BEN wins, would be awsome viewing (may even beat nasty nick and assult course task, that was class!!

Ben winning a S/R task would definatly be good for him regarding viewing public as I believe he is slipping at the moment.

[Possiblehousemate]

How is this Ben thing there doing a punishment?

Its STUPID!

[Beastie]

Ben is a great housemate. Not sure if he is winning material.. however if Corin, Mario or Andrew don't win.. then Ben can

[joeysteele]

BEN does not bitch at all, he says what he thinks and more often than not to the eprson he's talking about, there is a difference to talking as to facts and inventing negative things like JJ does.
As for last night, Ben came out the reasoned and articulate winner if there has to be one and John the bull in a china shop ranting lunatic.
JJ loves arguments and when there are none he will create them usually with women though, Ben doesnt lose his temper and rant like a madman, and that annoys JJ so he tries to wind up Ben more than the others, he knew Nathan, Dave, Steve etc would really take him on so he kept clear of those. I actaully think JJ has gay leanings too which is why he pushes females away and I think he has thing for Mario,another reason to get at Bne because he knows Ben could snap his fingers AND mario would jump for Ben.
JJ is full of paranoia,a very devious, manipulative and dangerously tempered man with massive psychological problems, likely aggravated by being in the confines of the house.

[BJ]

I think they both need to stay. Was shocked, however, when JJ said several times during their argument "******* the public. They all need the public vote to win

[Beastie]

Cameltoe and Steve should be up this week.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

BEN does not bitch at all, he says what he thinks and more often than not to the eprson he's talking about, there is a difference to talking as to facts and inventing negative things like JJ does.
As for last night, Ben came out the reasoned and articulate winner if there has to be one and John the bull in a china shop ranting lunatic.
JJ loves arguments and when there are none he will create them usually with women though, Ben doesnt lose his temper and rant like a madman, and that annoys JJ so he tries to wind up Ben more than the others, he knew Nathan, Dave, Steve etc would really take him on so he kept clear of those. I actaully think JJ has gay leanings too which is why he pushes females away and I think he has thing for Mario,another reason to get at Bne because he knows Ben could snap his fingers AND mario would jump for Ben.
JJ is full of paranoia,a very devious, manipulative and dangerously tempered man with massive psychological problems, likely aggravated by being in the confines of the house.

so true Joey

[Bonbons81]

We should all accep that they each have their faults and it doesn't have to be so black and White all the time about ther pesonalities!

[Bonbons81]

I love ben but I'm not a blinded fan to where I just fight his case in all situations like there are many ben and JJ fans which do this ALL the time.

I think both of them made some valid points in their argument and they are both guilty of repetition at the end of the day! Yes Ben is selfish and doesn't care for the tasks which you must realise cAn't make him a game player or he would be trying to keep the house sweet... He is just who he is and like he said he can't and won't change himself....

On the other hand I'm not a massive JJ fan but what he was saying was true and I have actually heard BEn say in the past that he is selfish and doesn't like the tasks so JJ is only saying things that ben has said anyway so it hardly makes him a genius or a bright spark... Yet it does make him a good game player because he seems to pick his fights wisely and quite cleverly to promote his own popularity in he house! And, don't get me wrong, it is a game they are playing so "to play the game" is fair game after all! Don't agree when fans say he is just genuine and not game playing coz I do think it's quite blatant really...

Also some saying after last night they've suddenly gone off him?? I've been Reading posts from these people over last few weeks slating ben left right and centre before last nights events?? Find that a bit strange!

I can guarantee it'll be edited in JJ's favour but have to admit that he argument yet again was stupid and the points being made were only
points that each have admitted about themselves anyway? The true fans of either shouldn't realt change their opinion of either hm or that's fickle
IMO!

Also someone said earlier that if either of them go, in terms of entertainmet, the house will suffer! Very true!!!

[Bonbons81]

Reading my post back I haven't bigged Ben up enough for what an awesome housemate he is though and he is defo my winner!

Don't let it be another "Anthony" please! That's how I'd see it if JJ won sorry ....

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Bonbons81

Reading my post back I haven't bigged Ben up enough for what an awesome housemate he is though and he is defo my winner!

Don't let it be another "Anthony" please! That's how I'd see it if JJ won sorry ....

Anfony won by looking cute to teenies and never having a crossed sword with anyone. That didn't work with Dale.

John is a bit complex and argues with everyone - not in anyway comparable to Anfony.

[Beastie]

I like Ben.. but come on.. you got to admit.. HE BITCHES.. Saying what you think behind people's back.. things which are negative about a person is BITCHING!! Ben's just does it in more an "articulate" way.. but he is probably the biggest bitch in there!! lol. His bitching is shown more on the live feed than the hls though. lol

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by serensilver

FINALLY! someone who agrees with me that Ben is the bitchest most irritating housemate ever!!!

GET HIM OUT!

lol you act like a lot of us havent been saying this from around day 3 :P

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Hes jsut as bad as luke from bb9, a two faced bitch, hopefully ben will get the same treatment as him.

[Bonbons81]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Anfony won by looking cute to teenies and never having a crossed sword with anyone. That didn't work with Dale.

John is a bit complex and argues with everyone - not in anyway comparable to Anfony.

Think John has issues yeh but his rants are a bit childlike? I can see how he appeals to the younger fans with the boy band/ beckham looks thing going on and to be honest I don't personally know anyone under the age of 17 who likes him?! Maybe there are a few exceptions but IMO the bulk of his fanbase are teenies so can be compared to Anthony in that sense...

The fact that he has arguements? That has never really won anyone the big brother title apart from Nadia but that is a whole other level of housemate so can't see him winning off any other trait than his "looks"..

I don't get it but I am aware that girls do fancy him and thats always a bonus on BB... Unfortunately!