[aijay10]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Everything I have been saying... I am sorry, I honestly don't know how else to explain what I have seen her doing then what I have said.

I can see where your coming from with the whole "smirking" thing byt like you have to understand these guys are "friends" Like Caoimhe didnt initially realize that Josie was mad at her and thought she was just messing around with her and JJ!! Like Caoimhe is a real messer like you can tell, she reall just want to prank people and have a good time which she has proven a number of times in this last week alone, so I think that her smirks and whatnot could be misinterpreted sometimes... as coming across as being in a malicious manner just because of the "character" she is perceived as in the house!

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

what if Quaver has good intentions?

maybe Quaver is winding up Josie deliberately to get Josie into a jealous rage JJ and Josie have a big row and then Josie blurts out how she feels, then they start to make out passionately and ******* like rabbits in the nest.

actually its JJ and Josie so maybe not

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by aijay10

I can see where your coming from with the whole "smirking" thing byt like you have to understand these guys are "friends" Like Caoimhe didnt initially realize that Josie was mad at her and thought she was just messing around with her and JJ!! Like Caoimhe is a real messer like you can tell, she reall just want to prank people and have a good time which she has proven a number of times in this last week alone, so I think that her smirks and whatnot could be misinterpreted sometimes... as coming across as being in a malicious manner just because of the "character" she is perceived as in the house!

Nah, that is just the Caoimhe BS spin. Causing sh1t for others for her own amusement and then feigning ignorance and innocence is what she has done since day 1.

Rotten to the core.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

what if Quaver has good intentions?

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by vesavius

why you post a pic of Josie flying?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

why you post a pic of Josie flying?

(can you tell it's late? I am starting to communicate solely in pictures and emotes)

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

JJ and Josie and Quaver are all playing games with each other

they all boring people and not very nice people

i want them off me tele, listen up BB

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

again i dont think its that black and white,for instance caoimhe does have that kind of face where it may portray an innocent act of friendship to look a little more sinister..

but to be real with you bro,josie hasnt said much except i kind of fancy him,oh wait now i dont,oh maybe i do,so their isnt really anything for her to complain about should caoimhe even choose to flirt with john.. with that said,she was one of the few helping josie with the whole john situation in the first place,so to say she's nasty just because she speaks to someone who she gets along with in the house is a little silly,josie has free reign to speak and act how she wants,flashing andrew at any given moment,putting her arms round him.. so whats wrong with caoimhe speaking to john?personally i dont think its that bad as is being made out..

This - basically she is a spoilt child who wants it all her own way! How dare she tell other hms who they can and can't talk to - no-one is putting any such restrictions on her!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by aijay10

I can see where your coming from with the whole "smirking" thing byt like you have to understand these guys are "friends" Like Caoimhe didnt initially realize that Josie was mad at her and thought she was just messing around with her and JJ!! Like Caoimhe is a real messer like you can tell, she reall just want to prank people and have a good time which she has proven a number of times in this last week alone, so I think that her smirks and whatnot could be misinterpreted sometimes... as coming across as being in a malicious manner just because of the "character" she is perceived as in the house!

This!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nah, that is just the Caoimhe BS spin. Causing sh1t for others for her own amusement and then feigning ignorance and innocence is what she has done since day 1.

Rotten to the core.

That sounds more like Josie to me!

[Kore]

Originally Posted by aijay10

I'm not going to lie, I really am bias in that I actually like Caoimhe and always have from the beginning of the series, yes she is bitchy, clever and Trouble....but like herself and JJ said tonight, the house would be full of ass lickers and pretentious friendships if the two of them weren't there to stir things up a bit! Like it gives us something to watch rather than....1.23 PM Dave is in the Sung talking to Ben about the weather..... 7.48 PM, Josie is making Toast in the kitchen.... Like it's in a weird way, entertaining....

Like so is this whole Josie situation it's very good TV, but has just turned Josie's popularity upside down!!!! Which is a shame because I was begining to think up until this weekend that she had a real shot at winning this year! I'm just so frustrated that she has trapped poor Andrew in her web!! He has so much potential and I know fear that she may drag him down with her! S:

I agree with all this. JJ and Caoimhe are the top 2 for me at the moment

[Visage]

I have enjoyed Josie throughout the series, but her latest bitching has started to annoy me, she isn't doing herself any good behaving this way.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

all you said is she smirks a little while she's with john.. you seem to think ive missed a big chunk of this nasty behavior,im just interested to know what is so nasty aside from some alleged smirking?

This is just it. Nothing has actually happened. When quizzed by JJ in the bathroom 2 nights ago in a highly illuminating conversation (in the context of Josie's neurosis and attempts at turning JJ away from Keeva) Josie said that Keeva was intentionally making her jealous with the smirks and the like. JJ said but you have tried to do exactly the same to me by mucking about with Andrew, where on she agreed but claimed that the difference was that Keeva was being smarmy and underhand about it. So all we really have are the perceptions of a jealous and mixed up woman to base this accusation on. The fact is that Josie had made the situation worse by changing beds which has lead her imagination to run riot. When she says that JJ and Keeva are sleeping together to the other HMs, it's as if they are having sex - nothing had changed other than Josie was no longer in the bed. At the moment JJ and Keeva seem to be enjoying each others company in a sort of playful way (hiding the plates etc last night) which for JJ is probably just some light relief from the heavy situations with Josie. Keeva really is a selfish person in every respect but I believe that she actually does like Josie and if Josie should be angry with anyone (other than herself of course) it should be JJ, her best mate who has left her in the sidelines... but only because he was pushed.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by aijay10

I'm not going to lie, I really am bias in that I actually like Caoimhe and always have from the beginning of the series, yes she is bitchy, clever and Trouble....but like herself and JJ said tonight, the house would be full of ass lickers and pretentious friendships if the two of them weren't there to stir things up a bit! Like it gives us something to watch rather than....1.23 PM Dave is in the Sung talking to Ben about the weather..... 7.48 PM, Josie is making Toast in the kitchen.... Like it's in a weird way, entertaining....

Like so is this whole Josie situation it's very good TV, but has just turned Josie's popularity upside down!!!! Which is a shame because I was begining to think up until this weekend that she had a real shot at winning this year! I'm just so frustrated that she has trapped poor Andrew in her web!! He has so much potential and I know fear that she may drag him down with her! S:

problem with this though is that they are ALL TALK and NO ACTION so they end up being just as boring as the rest.
If JJ and Quaver actually started to really stir it up and cause rows and piss people off by being rebellious and doing very funny practical jokes etc, I would like them for it. I would EVEN LIKE QUAVER

but so far they have done, as JJ said the other night, "2/5ths of ******* ALL"
so they are just BORING HMs with the addes bonus of being nasties so they can GT FO

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That sounds more like Josie to me!

Absolutely.
"Oi'm not the brightest person in here but..." "Oi don't pick up on much 'round here but..." "Xyz told me that..." These are all well used devices which down play her actual level of involvement to the situations which enable her to pass on the information that she wanted to without actually taking any responsibility.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shiner

This is just it. Nothing has actually happened. When quizzed by JJ in the bathroom 2 nights ago in a highly illuminating conversation (in the context of Josie's neurosis and attempts at turning JJ away from Keeva) Josie said that Keeva was intentionally making her jealous with the smirks and the like. JJ said but you have tried to do exactly the same to me by mucking about with Andrew, where on she agreed but claimed that the difference was that Keeva was being smarmy and underhand about it. So all we really have are the perceptions of a jealous and mixed up woman to base this accusation on. The fact is that Josie had made the situation worse by changing beds which has lead her imagination to run riot. When she says that JJ and Keeva are sleeping together to the other HMs, it's as if they are having sex - nothing had changed other than Josie was no longer in the bed. At the moment JJ and Keeva seem to be enjoying each others company in a sort of playful way (hiding the plates etc last night) which for JJ is probably just some light relief from the heavy situations with Josie. Keeva really is a selfish person in every respect but I believe that she actually does like Josie and if Josie should be angry with anyone (other than herself of course) it should be JJ, her best mate who has left her in the sidelines... but only because he was pushed.

Exactly!