[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Some people love cruelty,look at the assholes who pay to watch bullfighting,look at all the bloodsports,Cruelty gives some people a kind of kick and they love to see someone or something hurt or be uncomfortable,you see it even on these forums,people 'hating' people they have never met.I think Ben is too good for the BB house,as they are not really used to people who have manners,respect and breeding.As soon as Ben gets out he will be fine ,I do think a certain few have spoiled his BB experiance simply by being so ignorant and closeminded to how he feels.

Love the comparison between watching BB and bloodsprts


Anyway, love ben, hes my second fave at the moment. But he brings a lot of it on himself to be honest.

[Fish]

I think Ben gets irritated by people easily and the other house mates know this so antagonise him so he gets that way around the house mates. Kinda portraying him to be this person who argues a lot when they are making him out to be like that.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Fish

I think Ben gets irritated by people easily and the other house mates know this so antagonise him so he gets that way around the house mates. Kinda portraying him to be this person who argues a lot when they are making him out to be like that.

Ben also knows how JJ can get wound up and has tried to get him into an arguement on several occassions.... JJ has not taken the bait.Also Ben will maliciously speak of others to try to manipulate votes.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ben also knows how JJ can get wound up and has tried to get him into an arguement on several occassions.... JJ has not taken the bait.Also Ben will maliciously speak of others to try to manipulate votes.

There is no way Ben has got JJ into arguments,JJ is quite capable of doing that himself.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by kazanne

There is no way Ben has got JJ into arguments,JJ is quite capable of doing that himself.

I agree John James is capable of that all on his own, but Ben isn't all sweet and innocent. He can be guilty in certain situations too, you do agree with me on that don't you?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Visage

I agree John James is capable of that all on his own, but Ben isn't all sweet and innocent. He can be guilty in certain situations too, you do agree with me on that don't you?

Of course I do,Ben can be annoying at times but I do not think it warrants the ridicule especially from his mate Dave

[serensilver]

ben is a bitch to everyone he even mimics their accents! if they saw what he was like they would all change their opinion of him! he's the biggest bitch in there so its not "cruel to ben" at all!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by serensilver

ben is a bitch to everyone he even mimics their accents! if they saw what he was like they would all change their opinion of him! he's the biggest bitch in there so its not "cruel to ben" at all!

How is he a bitch to everyone? he does mimic it's funny,even the housemates have laughed at it,people make a living out of it,I dont think that's nasty at all,and I'm sorry some of them ARE cruel,funnily enough Dave is one of the worst,still getting my head round that one.

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by kazanne

How is he a bitch to everyone? he does mimic it's funny,even the housemates have laughed at it,people make a living out of it,I dont think that's nasty at all,and I'm sorry some of them ARE cruel,funnily enough Dave is one of the worst,still getting my head round that one.

He bitches about, John james and JJ, mario, even dave! and he was just bitching about rachel doing her accent and everything its nasty and he never does it to anyones face! he did it with like shabby,caiomhe,ife too

[fingers]

It says a lot about the mentality of the sycophants of the forum that if you don't post gushing praise about their "heroes" you get labelled a "hater". School playground mentality at its worst!

[luminoussun]

I feel sorry for him too...hes been picked on the whole time just because hes not a team player and don't put himself forwards...but he has a bad habit of bitching to peeeeeople

[Omah]

Originally Posted by luminoussun

I feel sorry for him too...hes been picked on the whole time just because hes not a team player and don't put himself forwards...

Yeah, he's done it again :

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbroth...ohn-james.html

Andrew asked for five volunteers, and said that five new housemates would enter from "a second house".

Corin, JJ, Josie, John James and David volunteered, while the other housemates, including Ben and Mario, stayed on the ground. John James and David both challenged Ben after the event, asking why he had not volunteered to leave so that new housemate JJ could stay.

John James and David continued to deride Ben for his actions throughout the afternoon, with the Australian saying: "[JJ'd] proven himself in two seconds, that's more than Benny's done in 47 days." The housemates laughed, with David adding: "He'll grow some stones one day. Rachel's seen through him." Rachel then joined in in ridiculing Ben, saying: "Yeah, the accent threw me. I was sucked in by the quiff."

David's fulfilled his own prediction that the HMs would turn on each other - sly, nasty man .....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Omah

Yeah, he's done it again :

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbroth...ohn-james.html



David's fulfilled his own prediction that the HMs would turn on each other - sly, nasty man .....

I hadn't seen that but it's not nice to read never mind be living amongst it,poor Ben,it must be soul destroying for him,Did anyone say anthing to Mario?and it annoys me that racheal feels she has a right to comment,i know her nose has been put out,that Ben has been chatting to Laura,but they really need to stop the constant put downs.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I hadn't seen that but it's not nice to read never mind be living amongst it,poor Ben,it must be soul destroying for him,Did anyone say anthing to Mario?and it annoys me that racheal feels she has a right to comment,i know her nose has been put out,that Ben has been chatting to Laura,but they really need to stop the constant put downs.

Rachel doesn't give a stuff about Ben and Laura - she's upset because she was trying to engineer a fauxmance with one of the faves, let's face it there's only JJ and Ben who are remotely believable as love interests, and she's too up Josie's a*se to risk it.

What Rachel really can't stomach is that Laura doesn't like HER, she said she finds her irritating, and who the ***** is she to say who Ben can and can't talk to. Rachel's scatty scouser act has been stripped away and she is exposed for the desperado she really is. I hope she's up this week against BEN and then she can disappear back into oblivion.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Omah

Yeah, he's done it again :

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbroth...ohn-james.html



David's fulfilled his own prediction that the HMs would turn on each other - sly, nasty man .....

I don't believe for a second that those five thought they were being selfless. More likely they sensed more airtime by volunteering. Certainly JJ2 would know that 5 new HMs were not coming in.

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I don't believe for a second that those five thought they were being selfless. More likely they sensed more airtime by volunteering. Certainly JJ2 would know that 5 new HMs were not coming in.

so your saying your fav corin wanted more air time? i dont think any of them did tbh

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by serensilver

so your saying your fav corin wanted more air time? i dont think any of them did tbh

Anybody who's seen past BBs would get an inckling that volunteering for something like that would work in your favour ultimately. Not rocket science.

Or maybe they felt they would be switched and put in the other house. An adventure. Either way I certainly don't think they thought they'd be evicted.

[Kazanne]

I want to know if they had a go at mario over it too?

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I want to know if they had a go at mario over it too?

Ye they did! but the reason they are having more of a go at ben is because he has been saying he wants to leave for a few weeks and the fact that he didnt stand up prooves he's lying, mario didnt stand up because he has waited years to get on the show and wants to stay!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by serensilver

Ye they did! but the reason they are having more of a go at ben is because he has been saying he wants to leave for a few weeks and the fact that he didnt stand up prooves he's lying, mario didnt stand up because he has waited years to get on the show and wants to stay!

It doesn't prove anything though does it,Ben said he didn't quite realize what was going on,he is not exactly the jump up and go type is he?,and as someone else pointed out those that stood were not being selfless,as JJ would know no new housemates were being put in.they did it for airtime

[joeysteele]

Ben is the most decent on there and he does TALK about the others but only on his own knowledge of what he's seen and heard,so all he says is facts.
What he doesn't do is butch and gossip with invention,like some of the others who say things that others haven't actually said,and also who say that some others have done this and that which they haven't.
Ben gets their backs up because he is non conformist but can anyone HONESTLY on here give an example where though he has talked about someone and has said things hee's seen and heard from THEM, from that can anyone on here faoirly and honestly give examples of anything he's said that actually was NOT true.
I believe the house thinks he is popular because of the crowd stand up comedy routine,they also know he survived a 4 person eviction fight when Govan went out and thats the only reason he doesn't get nomiated that mnuch.
Mario still has a thing for him so will stick with him, Dave is not a friend really, I believe Dave is waiting to stab him in the back and RACHEL is a nasty madam, he should not trust her one bit,I find her 100% false, she nominated him this week and I bet she does next week too, I just hope she gets nominated and he doesn't and I also hope even if there are 2 evictions this week they now scrap the save and replace task .

[Beastie]

Rachel nominated Ben for the boot last week...

Just a reminder

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by thebeast

Rachel nominated Ben for the boot last week...

Just a reminder

And will rightly do so again after his finer pointing

[Angus]

Originally Posted by thebeast

Rachel nominated Ben for the boot last week...

Just a reminder

Unless Ben is up against Corin, JJ, or Josie, I can't see him being evicted over ANY of the others. These four are the only ones with anything like a significant fan base.

[Omah]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/liveupdates/

17:41

Ben tells Dave he finds it strange that he's "suddenly been transformed into a villain", following not standing up earlier, and his falling out with Rachel, turning him into "Mr Sleaze".

For some reason, Dave's suddenly turned nasty, but Rachel was always going to turn out to be a nasty piece of work .....