[charmingmissc]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Why will he hurt her then? If he feels the same way as her - then there is no reason for her to be hurt is there? Face it - he doesn't!

it started from when she asked him to move beds,

he had told her, he did not want to be seen as leading her on like caoimhe had with shabby.

as he knew people thinking he had, would hurt her.

after he came back from running away and they were once again under the covers they were both crying and saying sorry to each other.

now they are both more open with their feelings for each other.

it is very very hard to tell someone how you feel if you are not sure of the other person, especially if you are shy.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

maybe you all missed the bit where she was sat on the bench,

she said, if he leaves i am going too. no she was not smiling when she said it.

(whilst he was in the camera run)

john wanted her from the beginning as he has told her more than once.

he was not sure of her feelings for him.

why everyone wants to turn her into the baddie i don't know.

what they have is genuine.

Taken out of context it might seem a noble offering but at the time Josie was mortified at how she would look if JJ1 actually left (because she was giving him the cold over his Shabby/Keeva worry). She said she would leave out of her own personal embarrassment not for solidarity with JJ1.

Everyone wants to "turn her into a baddie" because she is one, you just don't see it yet.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Shiner

Taken out of context it might seem a noble offering but at the time Josie was mortified at how she would look if JJ1 actually left (because she was giving him the cold over his Shabby/Keeva worry). She said she would leave out of her own personal embarrassment not for solidarity with JJ1.

Everyone wants to "turn her into a baddie" because she is one, you just don't see it yet.

I don't really like Josie either.. but Jesus..... John James is a spineless, weak, self pitying twat!!!!!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

maybe you all missed the bit where she was sat on the bench,

she said, if he leaves i am going too. no she was not smiling when she said it.

(whilst he was in the camera run)

john wanted her from the beginning as he has told her more than once.

he was not sure of her feelings for him.

why everyone wants to turn her into the baddie i don't know.

what they have is genuine.

She wasn't smiling during that bit, no. It was between bouts of laughter as I recall.

He wanted her? He wasn't sure of her feelings? Are you sure you're watching the right two?

[charmingmissc]

Originally Posted by Livia

She wasn't smiling during that bit, no. It was between bouts of laughter as I recall.

He wanted her? He wasn't sure of her feelings? Are you sure you're watching the right two?

she laughs when she is nervous,

many people do.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Livia

She wasn't smiling during that bit, no. It was between bouts of laughter as I recall.

He wanted her? He wasn't sure of her feelings? Are you sure you're watching the right two?

Just what I thought! Wishful thinking can be a powerful thing!

[Beastie]

She is not innocent at all.. but John James is much worse.

[charmingmissc]

i would have been peed off too, being compared to caoimhe.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

i would have been peed off too, being compared to caoimhe.

Then like Josie, you didn't understand the context of his comment either. He didn't compare her to anyone he likened the situation to the Keeva/Shabby one where one person was looking like a twat because they had stronger feelings that the other one. He was actually looking out for her...allegedly, if you believe it's not part of a GP.

[charmingmissc]

he is not any more.

not just me either.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

he is not any more.

not just me either.

He is not what - that is not clear!

[charmingmissc]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He is not what - that is not clear!

saying about hurting her.

they now understand each other.

as i said it will become clearer.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

saying about hurting her.

they now understand each other.

as i said it will become clearer.

Unless she has finally got he message that a close friendship is all he can offer her - he will hurt her!

[charmingmissc]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Unless she has finally got he message that a close friendship is all he can offer her - he will hurt her!

it is not a friendship on either part, it has gone beyond that.

[charmingmissc]

she took it in the wrong context not me.

(the shabby caoimhe comment)

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

she took it in the wrong context not me.

(the shabby caoimhe comment)

So you've now changed your mind about saying you would have reacted the same way.

[charmingmissc]

Originally Posted by Shiner

So you've now changed your mind about saying you would have reacted the same way.

if i were her, i would not like to be compared to caoimhe.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

if i were her, i would not like to be compared to caoimhe.

Ha ha make up your mind.

[charmingmissc]

He wanted her? He wasn't sure of her feelings? Are you sure you're watching the right two?

yes, and more than just the hl's. there is live feed too.

as i said before the hl's are a day behind.

[WOMBAI]

I didn't like Keeva that much - but she was a lot more real than Josie!

Looks aside - Josie is acting like a barbie doll - all fluff for brain and no substance! I don't believe that is the real her! But whether it is or it isn't - makes her a pretty unlikeable person in my book!

[Zippy]

To be fair I think any of us can have our bad traits brought out by the right(or wrong) person. It's unrequited attraction made worse by ridiculously mixed signals from an emotional wreck of a Mummys boy.

Its actually embarrassing to watch at this point. Both out plz.

[AquaShots]

Originally Posted by Zippy

To be fair I think any of us can have our bad traits brought out by the right(or wrong) person. It's unrequited attraction made worse by ridiculously mixed signals from an emotional wreck of a Mummys boy.

Its actually embarrassing to watch at this point. Both out plz.

Agreed. He's a few sandwiches short of a picnic if he thinks this is winning him any votes.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Zippy

To be fair I think any of us can have our bad traits brought out by the right(or wrong) person. It's unrequited attraction made worse by ridiculously mixed signals from an emotional wreck of a Mummys boy.

Its actually embarrassing to watch at this point. Both out plz.

Yep, I mean if they weren't in on the same year. Or maybe if one of them had come a bit later, they'd both be great.

[Cordelia]

I think it pathetic how everyone is hating Josie. She aint done nothing wrong. John James likes her. He said he just dont want any thing to happen in the house as he knows what it will look like. Josie is goos for John James. She has calmed him down alot since he first went in. He genuinely cares for her. JOSIE FTW!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Cordelia

I think it pathetic how everyone is hating Josie. She aint done nothing wrong. John James likes her. He said he just dont want any thing to happen in the house as he knows what it will look like. Josie is goos for John James. She has calmed him down alot since he first went in. He genuinely cares for her. JOSIE FTW!

She is a mess.