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Livia · 28-07-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by doughnut8

The guy is a dinosaur spreading this horrible hate about people who do not fit this ridiculous christian centric view of the world. We need to send his guy and his ugly views a message.

It isn't just Dave. Do you actually read any of this stuff? THE WHOLE CHURCH is united in not marrying gays. And not just Christians. And they can't "marry" in a register office, they can only have a civil partnership.

Dave is tolerant of all people I think. I've never once heard him discriminate or judge someone. But you know what, I'm wasting my time, aren't I. Ignorance is bliss when it suits your crusade.

Fuzzylogic · 28-07-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by doughnut8

The guy is a dinosaur spreading this horrible hate about people who do not fit this ridiculous christian centric view of the world. We need to send his guy and his ugly views a message.

You are either an idiot or a troll, which is it?

There is a difference between hims aying he won;t marry gays and being a "gay hater."

If he hated gays and gayness he wouldn;t be friends with Mario, and be so huggy with other men.

suzq · 28-07-2010, 11:19 PM

Dave is a PR**K

Mr XcX · 29-07-2010, 12:03 AM

How do you know GOD does not discriminate have you met him.
hhhhmmmmmmmmmmm?????

mikopale · 29-07-2010, 12:07 AM

People on this forum that say Dave is discriminating gays, don't u think that u are discriminating him for his beliefs. Gays have their beliefs and Dave has his beliefs. Just because they differ doesn't mean that Dave is discriminating. If a gay copuple ask Dave to marry them and Dave says 'no', then the gay couple raise a big hoo hah about it, then surely the gays would be discriminating Dave.

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mikopale

People on this forum that say Dave is discriminating gays, don't u think that u are discriminating him for his beliefs. Gays have their beliefs and Dave has his beliefs. Just because they differ doesn't mean that Dave is discriminating. If a gay copuple ask Dave to marry them and Dave says 'no', then the gay couple raise a big hoo hah about it, then surely the gays would be discriminating Dave.

No. So if my beliefs were that black people were evil would I be respected for my beliefs or would I be called a racist??

And "gays" don't have their "beliefs" they simply want to be treated the same as everyone else, what is wrong with that??

Livia · 29-07-2010, 12:16 AM

Actually, if a registrar feels strongly for religious reasons that they can't perform a civil partnership for a gay couple, as part of the Human Rights Act, they can be relieved and another registrar will do it. It's all about people's personal beliefs and their right to them. You cannot force someone to believe something, or to reject their own beliefs. However, a registrar could not refuse to marry a black couple.

It's a minefield.

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Actually, if a registrar feels strongly for religious reasons that they can't perform a civil partnership for a gay couple, as part of the Human Rights Act, they can be relieved and another registrar will do it. It's all about people's personal beliefs and their right to them. You cannot force someone to believe something, or to reject their own beliefs. However, a registrar could not refuse to marry a black couple.

It's a minefield.

It's shocking discrimination!

Livia · 29-07-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

It's shocking discrimination!

I'm not arguing with you.

This is why it surprises me when people say they are not interested in politics. It affects all of us all the time and it's only through politics that outdated, archaic laws can be changed. I mean it's only a little over fifty years since homosexuality was legalised; before that you could be sentenced to prison for being gay. So things are changing. But reeeeally slooooowly.

stonedape · 29-07-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Actually, if a registrar feels strongly for religious reasons that they can't perform a civil partnership for a gay couple, as part of the Human Rights Act, they can be relieved and another registrar will do it. It's all about people's personal beliefs and their right to them. You cannot force someone to believe something, or to reject their own beliefs. However, a registrar could not refuse to marry a black couple.

It's a minefield.

one of these things is not like the other!

Livia · 29-07-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedape

one of these things is not like the other!

No, I know that. That was my point. That was a point someone else made earlier in the thread.

I'm happy to discuss with with you seriously, but we're probably not going to agree totally because you're looking at it idealistically and I'm looking at it from a legal point of view. I'm not trying to antagonise you and I hope you feel the same.

mikopale · 29-07-2010, 12:23 AM

If a gay person wants to get married or have a civil partnership, then they don't have to get Dave to do it. They can easily find someone else.

Dave doesn't treat gays differently, he's only following his beliefs which he is entitled to have. I know Christian doctors who refuse to operate abortions, that doesn't mean that they are discriminating against the mother, it just means that they don't want to kill innocent babies.

My point is, if people can choose what they do and don't do, then Dave should have the right to say that he wouldn't conduct gay marriages or civil partnerships.

Everyone makes decisions that hurt others at some point or another, and this is a decision that Dave has made. Plus, what has Dave's choice got to do with anyone on this forum. If you want to moan about someone then moan about people in your own lives, not somebody you don't even know.

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mikopale

... Plus, what has Dave's choice got to do with anyone on this forum. If you want to moan about someone then moan about people in your own lives, not somebody you don't even know.

Erm because this is a BIG BROTHER forum honey & we are discussing what he has said in the house...

If you want to discuss your friends & family I suggest you go chat on Facebook...

Mr XcX · 29-07-2010, 12:24 AM

But isn't marriage a religious ceremony.
Why not let Gay get married.

mikopale · 29-07-2010, 12:29 AM

Dave to win.

flamingGalah! · 29-07-2010, 12:31 AM

DAVE TO BE EVICTED FRIDAY

Mr XcX · 29-07-2010, 12:34 AM

GET John James out

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by doughnut8

I can not stand his FAKE sincerity and his open disgust at minorities like gay people. I say send him a message and he can stick his vile agenda and get him OUT NOW! Call: 09011 323 004

He has never expressed any disgust for gay people - I accuse you of being an out and out liar! Stick your hysterical lies where the sun don't shine!

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 07:52 AM

Dave discriminates against intelligent people in that he avoids them as they see through his bs

WOMBAI · 29-07-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dave discriminates against intelligent people in that he avoids them as they see through his bs

Ha, ha - and of course you see yourself as one of those 'intelligent' people! In my book - it isn't very 'intelligent' to jump on these hate the 'weirdo' bandwagons!

As a hm he is interesting and funny - and that is why I like him!

Crimson Dynamo · 29-07-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Ha, ha - and of course you see yourself as one of those 'intelligent' people! In my book - it isn't very 'intelligent' to jump on these hate the 'weirdo' bandwagons!

As a hm he is interesting and funny - and that is why I like him!

You dont like him Wombai you sexually fancy him and as such are blind to who he really is.

He is a lying rat who copied some twit from America in order to build status for himself.

MojoNixon · 29-07-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by doughnut8

I can not stand his FAKE sincerity and his open disgust at minorities like gay people. I say send him a message and he can stick his vile agenda and get him OUT NOW!

Tell that to muslims. Thank You.

Chuckyegg · 29-07-2010, 01:40 PM

Oh i was under the impression that his God thing was on the back boiler. He was all "Godded out" after the first month.

Lex · 29-07-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by doughnut8

I can not stand his FAKE sincerity and his open disgust at minorities like gay people. I say send him a message and he can stick his vile agenda and get him OUT NOW! Call: 09011 323 004

I personally would like to see Dave evicted,(after jj1+jj2+mario), but for the reason that he is a manipulative, duplicitus full-on gameplayer!...But, in no way do I believe that he is homophobic!..imo, Rasputin has many faults!...but that's not one of them!

Livia · 29-07-2010, 09:05 PM

LOL... I realise that "my cat enjoys it" sounds reeeeeeeally weird! LOL... I mean he enjoys doing it to himself. Just to clarify....

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