[InTheHood]

I think the comments "I want to leave" are reverse psychology.

He wants to leave, people want to see him suffer, he secretly gets what he wants and so on.

[tali]

Tracy is a self confessed strong woman and said, last night, that she was as strong as Dennis; I take it she didn't mean physical strength. She should have stuck up for herself. So I don't think the poor little sweet Tracy thing works and from what she said last night, she would not want to be portrayed that way.

I am not condoning Petes behaviour just looking at both sides

[Legend]

Originally posted by tali
Tracy is a self confessed strong woman and said, last night, that she was as strong as Dennis; I take it she didn't mean physical strength. She should have stuck up for herself. So I don't think the poor little sweet Tracy thing works and from what she said last night, she would not want to be portrayed that way.

I am not condoning Petes behaviour just looking at both sides

But why?

She might nbot of wanted to give Pete the reaction he wants, i thought the way she handled it was great and a better way of doing it. Pete realised he wasn't going to get a reaction from her so got annoyed, sdtormed out and got a slap on the arse from Traci.

Gooo Traci!

[ThaGazBoi]

Pete was totally out of order, there was no need for that sort of behavior at all. Hes a vile vile man. Get him out!

[InTheHood]

That slap on the ass was hilarious.

Pete well and truly lost that one

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by Legend
Yeah but as u said there ALL under the same pressure. If it wa really that bad for him then why hasn't he walked by now? I know if i felt they way Pete supposedly feels then i would of walked from the house.

He goes on about how sh!t it is and how much he wants to leave, and he's a clever man so knows that nobody is stopping him from walking.

He maybe under pressure but so is Traci and IMO more so because she is in a different country, she is in a minority and she doesn't really understand the game and to add to all this she is being spoke to like sh!te by Pete and belittled by him.

Pete has admitted himself he can go far. We know that when he told BB in the diary room his regrets over telling Rula to "******* off". That's just the way he is cantankerous and unpredictible. It doesn't make him a vile person. It does make him someone you'd rather not live with. I'd hate it personally. He'd drive me mad.

I don't think Traci was offended. I think she was a little upset but she knows what Pete can be like. Furthermore I'm willing to bet Traci genuinely likes Pete and sees him as entertainment.

[Legend]

It's just not the point though. No-one else would get away with talking to others like that so why should he? I bet he doesn't walk down the street and talk to people like that does he? No because he wouldn't be able to walk.

If someone in the house spoke to him as bad as he does then i'm sure he would be ten times worse back to them.

[tali]

I don't think Traci was offended. I think she was a little upset but she knows what Pete can be like. Furthermore I'm willing to bet Traci genuinely likes Pete and sees him as entertainment.

No Andy she LOVES Pete!

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by Legend
It's just not the point though. No-one else would get away with talking to others like that so why should he? I bet he doesn't walk down the street and talk to people like that does he? No because he wouldn't be able to walk.

If someone in the house spoke to him as bad as he does then i'm sure he would be ten times worse back to them.

But Pete and Traci have built up a rapport. They live in each other's pockets so these outbursts are going to occur. It's been evident in every series of BB. You can't compare it with the reactions of complete strangers walking down a street. That is ridiculous.

I say things to people I've known for years which are meant in jest and are taken in humour, that to somebody I didn't know could be taken as offensive.

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by tali
I don't think Traci was offended. I think she was a little upset but she knows what Pete can be like. Furthermore I'm willing to bet Traci genuinely likes Pete and sees him as entertainment.

No Andy she LOVES Pete!

She's just soooo American isn't she

[charliebubbles]

Originally posted by MikeD
I find it funny that when most people deal out bitchy comments it's rightly criticised, but when a gay man does it it's suddenly not only acceptable, but it's supposedly hilarious.

HEAR HEAR

[Ella]

I am really really angry with what he said she was crying afterwards and he walked off and started laughing 'oh ive just had a random go at Tracey'! go get your lips popped you racist evil man/women whatever you call yourself

[tali]

As far as I know nobody has said Petes comments to Tracy were hilarious. But what was has been said is some of his one liners and comments are.

It's nothing to do with him being gay white or anything else!

[ally001]

Originally posted by AndyJK
Calm down people and stop taking everything Pete does and says so seriously and to heart. I think most of what Pete said to Traci was tongue-in-cheek. I don't think he seriously meant to hurt the girl's feelings and she only cried after he left the room, during that time she was taking it all on jest.

Again its very easy for us to pass comment on people's actions and misconstrue them. They are locked inside away from their loved ones and Pete is feeling it worst than the others and they know that.

Pete is Pete. He's already gone into the diary and said everyone watching must think him a t***.

Do we know what happened after Traci cried? No, because that's where the highlights ended. Maybe Pete apologized to her or spoke to her after. Can anyone confirm that?

It was obvious to everyone including Pete that Traci was on the verge of tears. Is it ok if I call you a *****, if it's tongue in cheek and you don't cry in front of me?

[Ella]

You cant sya what Pete said was a joke if someone spoke to me like that im sorry id be in tears aswell but i would have stuck up for myself but Tracey isnt like that, and and pete cant and wont say sorry to anyone cause hes a low evil pathetic person!

[ally001]

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I am really really angry with what he said she was crying afterwards and he walked off and started laughing 'oh ive just had a random go at Tracey'! go get your lips popped you racist evil man/women whatever you call yourself

I was shocked no one stood up for her. Now Jodie's gone seems they've found someone else to bully. Unfortunately the half wits that phone to vote will probably vote for Traci to go. No one even comforted her when she started to cry! this years bb has reminded me why I hate 95% of people.

How hypercritical of vile George too, one minute voting Maggot out for asking Chantelle the capital of Luxembourg on the grounds he stands up for the underdog, and then he stands by and watches one of the most vicious verbal attacks since Jodie left and says nothing. Spineless w*****.

Wish I was in there I'd tell that saggy arsed Burns a few home truths.

Poor Traci I just wanted to give her a hug and I don't even do hugs!

[MikeD]

Originally posted by tali
As far as I know nobody has said Petes comments to Tracy were hilarious. But what was has been said is some of his one liners and comments are.

It's nothing to do with him being gay white or anything else!

That's what I was referring to, and of course it has to do with him being gay. You see it all the time. Pete could easily walk up to Chantelle and say "you look like a total slut today, you little bitch" and it would be taken in jest even though in all likelihood he's deadly serious. Now imagine if any of the straight guys in the house did the same thing- there'd be outrage. Seems to me like he uses being gay as a free ticket to be rude.

[Siouxsie]

sorry but im still a pete fan but i did see a different side to him with tracy

[Siouxsie]

its a game thats all

[BB-Rocks]

Im not sticking up for him here! i am disgusted with him too! but the fact he had a drink in him made the situation worse so i think it was the drink because i don't think he would go that far .. he was bang out of order but!

[AndyJK]

You're all sensitive ickle bunnies aren't you? May I kindly suggest you watch something else that doesn't upset your ickle feelings and gets you all worked up and leave BB to the real fans, like me, who like to see confrontation and arguing in the house. Or go and listen to a nice Radio 4 play or something. You're spoiling the programme for the rest of us.

I can't stand these wet do-gooders always up in arms over one argument and then spouting out this tabloid chatter throwing around words like "evil", "racist" and "vile" without any basis of truth. Go back to fantasy land and your Daily Star.

Pete to win.

[ally001]

Originally posted by -!-bb-rocks-!-
I'm not sticking up for him here! i am disgusted with him too! but the fact he had a drink in him made the situation worse so i think it was the drink because i don't think he would go that far .. he was bang out of order but!

This is the man that couldn't care if an entire species is wiped out just so he can wear it's skin in a failed attempt to look attractive. Sweetheart I don't mean to burst your bubble but to think he has any ounce of compassion for anyone or anything but himself is a little naive to say the least!

[ally001]

Originally posted by AndyJK
You're all sensitive ickle bunnies aren't you? May I kindly suggest you watch something else that doesn't upset your ickle feelings and gets you all worked up and leave BB to the real fans, like me, who like to see confrontation and arguing in the house. Or go and listen to a nice Radio 4 play or something. You're spoiling the programme for the rest of us.

I can't stand these wet do-gooders always up in arms over one argument and then spouting out this tabloid chatter throwing around words like "evil", "racist" and "vile" without any basis of truth. Go back to fantasy land and your Daily Star.

Pete to win.

Oh believe me I love the arguments and confrontation more than anyone. What I don't like is bullying. I'm living in hope that someone will have the guts to smash Pete right in the face and mess it up even more than his surgeon has managed to do. Love a good old fight, just so long as it's a fair one.

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by ally001

Oh believe me I love the arguments and confrontation more than anyone. What I don't like is bullying. I'm living in hope that someone will have the guts to smash Pete right in the face and mess it up even more than his surgeon has managed to do. Love a good old fight, just so long as it's a fair one.

I've had tons of arguments with my brothers. They've never sent anyone to do me GBH, and vice versa. Any arguments or disgareements are usually forgotten.

So presummably you've never had an argument with anyone in your life then and never criticised someone over their behaviour? Strange considering you condone violence.

[James]

Um, I sense an argument brewing. We need to stay on the topic on the housemates, I think, and not discuss each other.