[InOne]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

I dont think there's a way of editing that to make any of them look good...

True, was sorta all out war in the end.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by InOne

True, was sorta all out war in the end.

Remember that the last segment of the programme is shown after lines-close

Unless they devote more that 14 minutes solely to the argument, it's not gonna be a voting factor to mosr of the public

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by InOne

True, was sorta all out war in the end.

I think Sam fell a bit flat on his face really (I'm not a JJ fan btw)...he went in there as some rebel, telling home truths and being all up in Josie's face....but when it came to the crunch of copping some back, he cried....rebellious resolve crumbled...

I dont dislike Sam either, I've grown to like him, I just dont think he's the massive saviour of the series he was cracked up to be. I do like the relationship he seems to be forming with Josie now though...he just needs to learn a few boundaries.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Remember that the last segment of the programme is shown after lines-close

Unless they devote more that 14 minutes solely to the argument, it's not gonna be a voting factor to mosr of the public

Well on the vid I saw it was like 11mins. They will probably make it 5 mins if that.

[Angus]

If Sam goes over Jo tonight, then I will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's a fix.

Can you imagine the house without Sam? Boredom would plumb new depths.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

I think Sam fell a bit flat on his face really (I'm not a JJ fan btw)...he went in there as some rebel, telling home truths and being all up in Josie's face....but when it came to the crunch of copping some back, he cried....rebellious resolve crumbled...

I dont dislike Sam either, I've grown to like him, I just dont think he's the massive saviour of the series he was cracked up to be. I do like the relationship he seems to be forming with Josie now though...he just needs to learn a few boundaries.

Well yeah, I mean he was a nightmare for them at first. And he still borderline stalks Josie. He is no saviour, but he definitely should stay over Jo. It's just annoying people will forget what a whiney bitch Jo was at the start of the week and basically conentrate on Sam. If there is conflict like that happening, we want Sam in lol

[Julie10]

It probably won't help him when it comes to the final though. I'd love to see him win and shock the others especially those who think they have it in the bag already.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well yeah, I mean he was a nightmare for them at first. And he still borderline stalks Josie. He is no saviour, but he definitely should stay over Jo. It's just annoying people will forget what a whiney bitch Jo was at the start of the week and basically conentrate on Sam. If there is conflict like that happening, we want Sam in lol

The sad thing about Jo is, she has some real perceptive moments, but because they come along during boring conversation, they're missed....whereas Sam is more about the action, running around, shouting and hollering, provoking reaction from the rest of the house, and that makes better footage.

I mean really, who wants to watch just chit chat?

Having said that, who wants to watch friggin duvet fumbling? :/

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well yeah, I mean he was a nightmare for them at first. And he still borderline stalks Josie. He is no saviour, but he definitely should stay over Jo. It's just annoying people will forget what a whiney bitch Jo was at the start of the week and basically conentrate on Sam. If there is conflict like that happening, we want Sam in lol

I've a feeling that Jo will have racked-up enough votes on Tuesday/Wednesday when she had stinkers - he'll not overtake her in the voting. Thursday show is said to be the big determining factor right enough - think Sunshine.

[Wee-Mo]

So hope the little prat goes tonight

[InOne]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

The sad thing about Jo is, she has some real perceptive moments, but because they come along during boring conversation, they're missed....whereas Sam is more about the action, running around, shouting and hollering, provoking reaction from the rest of the house, and that makes better footage.

I mean really, who wants to watch just chit chat?

Having said that, who wants to watch friggin duvet fumbling? :/

Most of the HM's are pretty dire this series. I'm glad the pack mentality didn't affect Sam like I thought it would at the start though. Everyone seemed to want to get rid of him cos he disrupted the nice friendly chats. If he survives this eviction, that will prove that. Also, that anyone who takes on John won't be a gonner, as we've seen a few times before.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I've a feeling that Jo will have racked-up enough votes on Tuesday/Wednesday when she had stinkers - he'll not overtake her in the voting. Thursday show is said to be the big determining factor right enough - think Sunshine.

I was thinking that, she got some really bad HL's at the start of the week. The moany middle aged woman. The cougar was nowhere to be seen.

[Just Do It]

Originally Posted by Jack_

He will go - I'm almost certain of it now.

And even if by some miracle he doesn't, he'll be leaving next week in one of the worst decisions the producers have ever made.

Agreed. Bo!?oks decision that as the most popular are also the least popular in the polls. So that decision makes it almost certain that a dullard will win for doing feck all.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I bit worried Sam might go as he is at the the 5/1 mark and shortening so it is possible he might go

hopefully Sam fans are ALL voting Jo out so then its battle of Sam fans v Sam haters

no Sam fans should waste money voting Dave or JJ but target Jo

SAM TO WIN

[erichardse10]

Well its up to you lot!. don't make the wrong decision!

[Bristol Bird]

Think the reason the odds have changed so quickly is that he's ruffled lots of the JJJ clans feathers. Also lots of scams going on to get peeps to vote him out. Tonight will be a real test for Peppers Army. I love him to bits - I'll be gutted if he doesn't stay

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Bristol Bird

Think the reason the odds have changed so quickly is that he's ruffled lots of the JJJ clans feathers. Also lots of scams going on to get peeps to vote him out. Tonight will be a real test for Peppers Army. I love him to bits - I'll be gutted if he doesn't stay

It's stupid that anyone who even goes close to the golden couple odds massively drop. Look what happened to Corin after the fight with John. IT's just stupid and it's cos BB have given them a ridiculous amount of airtime.

[Bristol Bird]

I know - spoils the programme imo!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Bristol Bird

Think the reason the odds have changed so quickly is that he's ruffled lots of the JJJ clans feathers. Also lots of scams going on to get peeps to vote him out. Tonight will be a real test for Peppers Army. I love him to bits - I'll be gutted if he doesn't stay

Forr the 3rd time in this thread:

Sam's odds-crash started long before the argument with JJ1 - during the influential Thu HL show in fact. Although FMs here seemed to lap it up, the gambling community appeared to believe he had an eviction-threatening stinker (he looked very bratty IMO too).

Your inventing shadows that ain't there.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

if sam goes then its rigged.

Well davina said she thinks sam will go. However he is not favourite to go on polls. If these trun out to be wrong it will be a fix. there has been so little time to vote since the argument highlight.

JJ1 saying go away Sam you are looking for airtime means JJ1 thinks the camera's only show him and Josie. He must have learnt this from JJ2.