[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

It's hilarious watching all the posters on the forum getting their knickers in a twist over Dave, because *in their opinion* he is a bad person, con artist, fake whatever, blah, blah. But isn't it funny how those same posters don't want to hold their fave HMs up to the same scrutiny as Dave - it's almost as if they are just bias and trying to find any reasons to get votes against Dave to save their own fave HM (but that couldn't be their motive could it LOL.)

Give it up. Dave deserves votes for what he has done in the house and not what he has or has not done out of the house. It is game show!!! Not judgement day!!!

You're only going on about Dave to save your own HM, enough with YOUR fake *moral high ground*.

Obviously BB checked his background and they are fine with it, so he is OK, if he wasn't OK BB would not have put him in the house.

I'm sorry, but you're going to have to explain that. Do all the other housemates run organizations that I don't know about that exploit and lie to some of the most vulnerable members of society?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I'm sorry, but you're going to have to explain that. Do all the other housemates run organizations that I don't know about that exploit and lie to some of the most vulnerable members of society?

or it could be said, offer a safe haven, shoulder to cry on, able to impart knowledge of coming off drugs/drink...but oh no, they offer these poor ex druggies/alkeys no support whatsoever !!!

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by parmnion

or it could be said, offer a safe haven, shoulder to cry on, able to impart knowledge of coming off drugs/drink...but oh no, they offer these poor ex druggies/alkeys no support whatsoever !!!

I'm not talking about drug addicts and alcoholics. As far as I'm concerned they are simply replacing one escapist addiction for another, but that's a different story altogether.

I am talking about lying to cancer patients making them think they can perform miracles and people with serious issues with their sexuality who get led into one of their bulls*** schemes that can supposedly 'rehabilitate' them.

They are on the same verministic level as those TV 'psychics' that go to great lengths deceive the grieving relatives of dead folk.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I'm not talking about drug addicts and alcoholics. As far as I'm concerned they are simply replacing one escapist addiction for another, but that's a different story altogether.

I am talking about lying to cancer patients making them think they can perform miracles and people with serious issues with their sexuality who get led into one of their bulls*** schemes that can supposedly 'rehabilitate' them.

They are on the same verministic level as those TV 'psychics' that go to great lengths deceive the grieving relatives of dead folk.

There is a word for them CONMEN

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I'm not talking about drug addicts and alcoholics. As far as I'm concerned they are simply replacing one escapist addiction for another, but that's a different story altogether.

I am talking about lying to cancer patients making them think they can perform miracles and people with serious issues with their sexuality who get led into one of their bulls*** schemes that can supposedly 'rehabilitate' them.

They are on the same verministic level as those TV 'psychics' that go to great lengths deceive the grieving relatives of dead folk.

Oh the old cancer chestnut again.

Silly ***** if they fall for anything he says after they have months of chemo to no avail.

Maybe people are willing to try anything to stop the pain.Who cares anyway, I'm now discussing something about Dave that simply isn't true.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh the old cancer chestnut again.

Silly ***** if they fall for anything he says after they have months of chemo to no avail.

Maybe people are willing to try anything to stop the pain.Who cares anyway, I'm now discussing something about Dave that simply isn't true.

How sick are you ? that must be the VILEST thing I have ever read on this forum may you rot for what you have said

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh the old cancer chestnut again.

Silly ***** if they fall for anything he says after they have months of chemo to no avail.

Maybe people are willing to try anything to stop the pain.Who cares anyway, I'm now discussing something about Dave that simply isn't true.

So they deserve it for buying into it? At least you're admitting he is a fraudster now.

[fingers]

Posted on DSpy by Blissed_off:

Oh yes, that bloody wheelchair video.
Right, for those that were questioning why Dave was filmed in a wheelchair, here goes.
For years the church has placed so much importance on our efforts, on what we as people do, not on what Jesus Christ has already done on the cross.
Dave was immobilzed by the presence of God, completely blotto. He wanted to show that you don't even need to walk to carry the presence of Jesus and manifest the finished work of the cross, our effort is not required, Jesus did it all! It's awesome.
Dave was aware that it was a controversial thing to do, Jesus often did controversial things. Yes what he did is open to misinterpretation and misunderstanding but he did it anyway as he had a point to prove.

He was not pretending to be disabled to fleece money out of people as people have intimated.

[flamingGalah!]

As far as I'm aware none of the other housemates have fleeced cancer victims out of money on the outside & told them they can cure them for Ł30... But if they did I would hate them just as much as I hate Dave...

[Patricia4]

I dont like Dave

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

It's hilarious watching all the posters on the forum getting their knickers in a twist over Dave, because *in their opinion* he is a bad person, con artist, fake whatever, blah, blah. But isn't it funny how those same posters don't want to hold their fave HMs up to the same scrutiny as Dave - it's almost as if they are just bias and trying to find any reasons to get votes against Dave to save their own fave HM (but that couldn't be their motive could it LOL.)

Give it up. Dave deserves votes for what he has done in the house and not what he has or has not done out of the house. It is game show!!! Not judgement day!!!

You're only going on about Dave to save your own HM, enough with YOUR fake *moral high ground*.

Obviously BB checked his background and they are fine with it, so he is OK, if he wasn't OK BB would not have put him in the house.

Excuse me ? have you lost someone with cancer ? have you ever had cancer yourself ? if you answer yes to either of these question wyou would KNOW without asking why this lowlife conman shouldnt even be in the BB house ,never mind win it,

[stoney]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Excuse me ? have you lost someone with cancer ? have you ever had cancer yourself ? if you answer yes to either of these question wyou would KNOW without asking why this lowlife conman shouldnt even be in the BB house ,never mind win it,

chuff get off your high horse please.

As someone that has lost both my father and mother to cancer I have no problemn with Dave, even if he is "selling" hope to some fellow believers, or his fellow believers saying what they actually believe even if I disagree with it.

this is just another anti dave stick that is being USED to beat him with and something I find as equally repulsive as you seem to take the claims he, and fellow believers, make about faith healing

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by stoney

chuff get off your high horse please.

As someone that has lost both my father and mother to cancer I have no problemn with Dave, even if he is "selling" hope to some fellow believers, or his fellow believers saying what they actually believe even if I disagree with it.

this is just another anti dave stick that is being USED to beat him with and something I find as equally repulsive as you seem to take the claims he, and fellow believers, make about faith healing

Shame on you

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by stoney

chuff get off your high horse please.

As someone that has lost both my father and mother to cancer I have no problemn with Dave, even if he is "selling" hope to some fellow believers, or his fellow believers saying what they actually believe even if I disagree with it.

this is just another anti dave stick that is being USED to beat him with and something I find as equally repulsive as you seem to take the claims he, and fellow believers, make about faith healing

You think that brainwashing and taking advantage of cancer patients has no bearing on somebody's character? That there is nothing insidious or exploitative in what he does? And more to the point, are you really so flippant that you can say somebody's comments on an internet forum are 'equally repulsive'?

[stoney]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

You think that brainwashing and taking advantage of cancer patients has no bearing on somebody's character? That there is nothing insidious or exploitative in what he does? And more to the point, are you really so flippant that you can say somebody's comments on an internet forum are 'equally repulsive'?

what you haters just dont get is they are not brainwashing anyone.
Some people actual believe in faith healing.
for some it brings a little hope in a bad time and even for a very few some relief.
Yes I do find it repulsive that some people use this fact and distort it in a point scoring exercise to try to drum up support against someone in a gameshow simply to help their favourite win it

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Excuse me ? have you lost someone with cancer ? have you ever had cancer yourself ? if you answer yes to either of these question wyou would KNOW without asking why this lowlife conman shouldnt even be in the BB house ,never mind win it,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

And your point is ?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And your point is ?

strange avatar you have chuff, a baby with a ciggy in it's mouth...nice.

[chuff me dizzy]

FFS Hes preaching on live feed HOPE JJ1 tells him to go fook off ,wait while the hm8s see what a nasty twisted conman he is

[chuff me dizzy]

Dave not liking it because JJ1 Doesnt fall for all his BS ,Dave having the gall to tell JJ1 he has a closed mind ,coming for the house fraud I find it mind boggling !! JJ1 tell him to fook off and i wont vote you out

[fingers]

Vindication of our posts will come on Friday when the Charlatan gets his marching orders and can bugger off back to Wales and his stupid Cult.

What a great name fo a Film or his Epitaph! "Back to Oblivion"

[cassieparis]

there have been other con artist winners but they had much more game. dave has no game whatsoflipping ever.

[Claymores]

Dave can cure cancer with the lord - he should win

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Dave can cure cancer with the lord - he should win

What a disgusting thing to say & joke about...

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

What a disgusting thing to say & joke about...

I was reflecting a tale that Dave told to other HMs when he put hands-on. As a cancer survivor who still has to go to Clinical Oncology every 3 months to be scanned for more, I find YOUR remark as objectionable as Dave's