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Beso · 17-08-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevep

Sunshine was entertaining, Ben was entertaining. You dont need to be an utter bitter twat to be entertaining. John was entertaining upto a few weeks ago, since then all he does is constantly bitch and moan. Thats not entertainment, thats irritating.

9 weeks of entertainment isn't a bad haul from a housemate..makes him worthy winners material in my humble opinion.

It is by far a lot better than some sad act repeated daily in the diary room by a desperate witch.

Tom4784 · 17-08-2010, 02:02 PM

Love him or loathe him, JJ1's been an important part of this series, all the people saying that they want him out along with the other characters will be the first to complain about it being boring. Mark my words, happens every year.

I don't like the man at all but in shows like this conflict IS needed otherwise you end up with BB4. If you don't want conflict then you're watching the wrong show and I'd recommend Bargain Hunt or Antiques Roadshow instead.

elliebrew · 17-08-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Love him or loathe him, JJ1's been an important part of this series, all the people saying that they want him out along with the other characters will be the first to complain about it being boring. Mark my words, happens every year.

I don't like the man at all but in shows like this conflict IS needed otherwise you end up with BB4. If you don't want conflict then you're watching the wrong show and I'd recommend Bargain Hunt or Antiques Roadshow instead.

there will be 3 days lft till the final after friday...hes been kept in till the final week so people could be entertained....tjhe last s days can be boring i dont care i just want him out now!!! Hes come far enough

Tom4784 · 17-08-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew

there will be 3 days lft till the final after friday...hes been kept in till the final week so people could be entertained....tjhe last s days can be boring i dont care i just want him out now!!! Hes come far enough

But chances are this is the last proper BB final we'll ever have, don't you want to it be...you know....watchable? Corin's gonna be danger now so if She, Sam and John goes then the final will be full of bores and we'll have a predictable result.

I just want a watchable final, because at the moment I'm just gonna save myself 2 hours of bother and just fastforward to the UBB launch.

vesavius · 17-08-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

all the people saying that they want him out along with the other characters will be the first to complain about it being boring.

No, I won't.

30stone · 17-08-2010, 02:02 PM

I disagree that arguments are the most interesting points... but i have to say some of the best episodes have been because of john arguing or not..

elliebrew · 17-08-2010, 02:08 PM

r you going to JJs eviction this week ange....you can tell him how much you love him

and how much you fought his corner...

Not that he' 'give a rip'

prob wont even thank you

Shardlake · 17-08-2010, 02:10 PM

The only thing thats spoilt it for me is this 'romance' with John James and Josie.

I really do not want to sit watching and listening to the two of them be all luvey duvey and kissing and cuddling. It makes me want to vomit.

They should not allow them into the beds during the day

smudgie · 17-08-2010, 02:11 PM

I don't think JJames has ruined the series.
I do not like his personality, but we need varied personalities to make a show. The way he acts brings about other people's reactions that we may not have seen otherwise. The same as I am not fussed on Dave, but he is an integral part of the show, as are the bores.
Having people with certain traits may change the course of the series, but not ruin it.

Now to get JJames and Dave out.

elliebrew · 17-08-2010, 02:11 PM

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine

Tom4784 · 17-08-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine

Don't be so sure, she has an argument tonight and she's a character. I'd be a bit more worried if I were you.

ange7 · 17-08-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine

wouldn't be so sure of that.

Sunday · 17-08-2010, 02:18 PM

And I would say, he has been in a long time and not been evicted, so he must be well liked by most the voters.

Beso · 17-08-2010, 02:12 PM

Just imagine if he hadn't been in the house. Tumbleweed anyone?

Stevep · 17-08-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Just imagine if he hadn't been in the house. Tumbleweed anyone?

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

Beso · 17-08-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevep

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

mighta mighta...it wasn't though, and john james has been this years bb by a mile..most deserving winner? hell no, but deserves to be in the final for being the big draw this year.

Stevep · 17-08-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

mighta mighta...it wasn't though, and john james has been this years bb by a mile..most deserving winner? hell no, but deserves to be in the final for being the big draw this year.

Not mighta, would definitely of been different.

And i agree, he deserves to be in the final or close to the final, just dont think he should win it.

I can see both sides of the argument though. Totally understand why people see him as being entertaining and therefore a deserved winner but can also understand people seeing him be a total wanker and wanting him out double time.

Beso · 17-08-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevep

Not mighta, would definitely of been different.

And i agree, he deserves to be in the final or close to the final, just dont think he should win it.

I can see both sides of the argument though. Totally understand why people see him as being entertaining and therefore a deserved winner but can also understand people seeing him be a total wanker and wanting him out double time.

YEP.

He's likable enough to win this thing if i voted on finals night he would probably get a vote from me along with dave and josie.

I think the main reason that I find him interesting to watch is that everything I have said about corin, he has had the same view.

Tom4784 · 17-08-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevep

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

Rachael's a decent point but if Nathan was interesting they'd have shown it. They generally love that type of character, If John James wasn't in that house Nathan would have still been a none entity in the house because he wasn't interesting. He basically never featured until the week he got evicted.

Stevep · 17-08-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Rachael's a decent point but if Nathan was interesting they'd have shown it. They generally love that type of character, If John James wasn't in that house Nathan would have still been a none entity in the house because he wasn't interesting. He basically never featured until the week he got evicted.

Yeh possibly, i agree Nathan was a bit of a bore but i do think he had another side to him which was bound to come out sooner or later if the right buttons were pushed. As you say, the week he got evicted he became a little more confrontational and was starting to say his piece i.e attacking shabby. I think he quite possibly would of developed into a better character. But then again i could just be chatting ****e and he would of gone back into his shell and remained a bore.

crocs · 18-08-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevep

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

I agree with you. If such a loud and vocal person had not been in the house, other people would have stepped up? But John James' rants suffocate everyone. Others don't want to be part of those rants and they stay away. Who knows what we would have seen without him? I think it would have been a lot more entertaining house.

rusticgal · 17-08-2010, 02:16 PM

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

elliebrew · 17-08-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

well hes not gonna, theres your winner.......right there........................vvvvvvvv

Tom4784 · 17-08-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew

well hes not gonna, theres your winner.......right there........................vvvvvvvv

No, it's going to be Josie. Haven't you got BB's memo?

Julesuk · 17-08-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

I dont know if he should win but definitely agree with the rest and should be there in the final.

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