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Old 01-07-2011, 02:09 AM #1
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Not all..Lennox wasnt bad, Manny doesn't talk his mouth off
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I like Haye but want Klitschko to win!!
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I know but I wanted to have a few drinks looks like it'll be me and a litre of Captain morgans
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Go to the pub, have a few, run home, watch the fight and have a few more
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a few could end up like the Hangover the rate ive been going lately

Will sort something out im sure, gonna run im so tired, Night x
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I have not been following these two closely but as a senior boxing analyst I'm going to have a go at this:
*If you are a betting man please note this:

Yes. Klitschko should batter Haye for about 7 rounds before Haye is TKO'ed despite a good effort.
This would happen.

But wait!

There is a reason why Haye may very well score a stunning upset. Would you be surprised if I predicted Haye will not only demolish Wlad but knock him out and it will 'appear' to be done easily?
What??
Here is why: Haye is well onto Klitschko and its something all us experts have spotted for years:
A massive hole in Klitschkos style and defense that, if and when exploited, will demolish him.
Think of a tank with armour on three sides.
Think of a fence surrounding a building but there is a big open gate for deliveries.

Haye knows this and has spent the last two years solving it.
It actually comes to this:
Ring Geometry.
But in this case its something awkward. This might be why nobody drives their truck through his gates.
(but Haye is also correct that they do find predictable opponents/styles for Wlad).
So let me try and break it down in actual practice:

A successful Haye will approach and face Wlad as usual and play right along with the machine's script. Trade jabs. Throw straight right. Back up. rally at him.
Lull.
Lull the machine into its programming. This requires nothing of course. Fans boo a bit. Haye backs off.
OK.
Around midway through round 2 Haye will want to start driving around to the side of the building.
This sounds like basic ring geometry but the real secret here is that it requires some really fine finesse:
He will break fast down and to the left of Klitscho and (as if one move in itself) turn back up facing Wlad.
Going to call this a sharp 90 with the result being he is 'facing' the side of Klitschko and close too.
Angle and distance. Surprisingly close to Wlad. And again, almost as if part of 1 single 'move' all in itself Haye wants to be throwing a sort modified left hook - right combination,
AND<
this might be as key as anything but at that same time he does NOT wait to exchange but now bobs/sidesteps to the right of Wlad and catch him turning with a right-left.
back away. Straight approach again.
Break left sharp face to side - left right punch.
bob under and 'mirror' move on his left side (right left punch).

You get the idea.
But this is something which is basically 'simple ring geometry' only on paper. In fact, I have no doubt Haye 100% knows exactly how this 'side entrance' must be busted open,
but its that 'finesse' and clever way it needs to be done. He needs to be quick and clever and really get the right angle on the puzzle.

IF he can get the right angle and direction to open the safe? It's like Luke finding the opening on the Death Star - Klitscho gets blown up.
Dramatically.
Well really it will almost 'look easy' when you see it happen. Like Haye easily outboxed him.
Too tired to finish this so you get the idea.

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Haye will knock him out after about 5 rounds. You're right el proximo.

This will be the first thing I buy on box office since the wrestling when I was a kid. Not messing around with streams again after the Haye-Harrison fight, too much lagging on them because of how many people are doing the same.

I think the weigh in is live on Sky Sports News at 1pm today
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The odds are amazing on this fight

Haye to Win in Round 1 - 20/1
20/1 for him to Win in Rounds 2 up to 6 aswell
Haye to Win in Round 7 - 25/1
Haye to Win in Round 8 - 25/1
Haye to Win in Round 9 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 10 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 11 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 12 - 40/1

Klitschko to Win in Round 1 - 33/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 2 - 30/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 3 - 25/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 4 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 5 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 6 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 7 - 25/1 - through to Round 10
Klitschko to Win in Round 11 - 25/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 12 - 25/1

13/8 for Klitschko to get knocked down
8/11 for Haye to get knocked down


And:

David Haye will be well and truly flying the flag for in Germany - in England's brand new away strip.

The heavyweight world champion will be wearing Umbro's new blue shirt as he enters the ring to take on Wladimir Klitschko in Hamburg on Saturday.

It will be the first time the strip will be seen, before the England players have had the chance to wear it in for a match.

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The odds are amazing on this fight

Haye to Win in Round 1 - 20/1
20/1 for him to Win in Rounds 2 up to 6 aswell
Haye to Win in Round 7 - 25/1
Haye to Win in Round 8 - 25/1
Haye to Win in Round 9 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 10 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 11 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 12 - 40/1

Klitschko to Win in Round 1 - 33/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 2 - 30/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 3 - 25/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 4 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 5 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 6 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 7 - 25/1 - through to Round 10
Klitschko to Win in Round 11 - 25/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 12 - 25/1

13/8 for Klitschko to get knocked down
8/11 for Haye to get knocked down


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David Haye will be well and truly flying the flag for in Germany - in England's brand new away strip.

The heavyweight world champion will be wearing Umbro's new blue shirt as he enters the ring to take on Wladimir Klitschko in Hamburg on Saturday.

It will be the first time the strip will be seen, before the England players have had the chance to wear it in for a match.
Hills say do haye to win in any round but if haye lose in side 3 round they will refund all bet up to £50
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I will watch this big fight live on the net
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The UK fans took over then LOL.

Haye got cheered coming out, Klitschko booed, and they were singing "Your supposed to be at home" to Klitschko.

Haye will knock him out in about round 8
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I hope Haye gets pummeled. He reminds me of Homer Simpson after bowling the 300. I'm sick of seeing him show up in stuff.
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Hmmm, might have to ask if the pub I go in is showing it. Don't want to be messing about with dodgy streams like Locke said, too much of a big fight. If it starts around 10 though that's not too bad
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I can't see it but I want to say 'right-left' combos not the other way.

I suppose there might be some kind of stream I can grab online. Yeah, a lot of people seem to resent Haye for being too mouthy but I'd like to see him win this.
But geez Klitscho coming forward with that jab and tremendous straight right.. yikes! Move Haye move.. FAST or die!
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Think I'll go for Haye to knock him out in Round 8, and Klitschko to win on points
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Think I'll go for Haye to knock him out in Round 8, and Klitschko to win on points


All kinds of Problems can happen
it must go beyond 4 rounds.


Also Live on radio 5.



It could be over fast
thats 15 pound gone.


Its even on 3-D no less,


I will use the free radio on this one.
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Wlad to win by KO in the 5th.
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English boxer must win all the championshiops then England will be the best

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this aint the wrestling thread, grown ups are talking here.
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