[hass]

well said kingu!

[hass]

and another thing i dont get, why can he go around shouting "**** puff" and no-one says a word to him about it? thats being racist on national television and dawn was the only one to say something to him about it. BUT when sezer offeres him a packet of crisps, which i think was not on purpose, he gets called a racist? get a grip

[Tanser_Man]

Well another thing about Sezer that has come out in the press. He apparently date raped a young secretary but the case was dropped due to lack of evidence, leaving doubt over the situation. Of course he is going to deny it but the lady coming forth says it wrecked her life. Might be a claim to fame, you never know but i can't see the public seeing it that way. We can be ruthless.

So not only is he a bully, but he could also be a rapist.

I can see quite a few more boo's as this story materialises.

[hass]

i dont think hes been a bully though. he stood up to shabhaz, he never bullied him at all.

[albie]

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[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by hass
i dont think hes been a bully though. he stood up to shabhaz, he never bullied him at all.

Of course he is, he instigated three situations which saw the group turn on him and then he stood back and laughed at him and made a joke of him.

He's full of himself.

[hass]

thats the probem with todays society, its guilty until proven inocent. there is no evidence that he ever raped that girl and no charges were brought to him. now the girl has brought it back up again and its all over the papers because shes seen an opportunity to gain some quick money.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by hass
thats the probem with todays society, its guilty until proven inocent. there is no evidence that he ever raped that girl and no charges were brought to him. now the girl has brought it back up again and its all over the papers because shes seen an opportunity to gain some quick money.

How do you know she's making the quick buck though?

She could be truthful and she might want to show the country how he has destroyed her life.

As i said before, it could be a load of mumbo, but if it were to come out as true... i can see him getting more then just boo's.

[hass]

yer but you cant be trialed for the same offence twice and he hasn't been charged. Plus in a rape offence im sure that the police would have investigated fully into the situation that occured and came out of it empty handed.

well shes obviously sold her story to the papers hasn't she? Thus making money from it.

[lily.]

The problem with stuff like this is... there are so many lying bstards out there, which makes it all the more difficult for an actual rape victim to seem credible.

Women who falsely claim rape make it almost impossible for real victims to come forward and be taken seriously.

I don't have an opinion on this particular case because I don't know any of the facts, but 50% of people will believe him and 50% will believe her. Either way, there will be a lot of people who think he is a low-life rapist scumbag, which wont make for nice TV on his exit.

[hass]

yer but im only going on the facts that he was found not guilty.

[lily.]

Yes, I know what you are saying Hass, and I also reserve judgement unless there is proof either way.. but not everyone does, and some people will be happy to jump to their own conclusions. It's all a bit sad really.

[hass]

yup i know, i get ye. people just read the papers and make assumptions.

[MissZoe__]

It's dead entertaining watching a bully, isn't it?

[hass]

not really but at least shabhaz has gone aye?

[MissZoe__]

Originally posted by hass
not really but at least shabhaz has gone aye?

Yeah, 'spose it's the best for him.

He'll need help in the outside world now like don't ya reckon? He's obviously got sumat wrong with him, unless he was just a mentalist.

[hass]

yer he does. he needs some mental help to get over his childhood and other issues. shuould'nt have been let loose in the house though.

[lily.]

They should have pulled him out days before he left. It was car-crash TV.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by hass
yer but you cant be trialed for the same offence twice and he hasn't been charged. Plus in a rape offence I'm sure that the police would have investigated fully into the situation that occured and came out of it empty handed.

well shes obviously sold her story to the papers hasn't she? Thus making money from it.

Sorry Hass, but if you honestly believe that if he was guilty of rape he would have been convicted, you must be living in a dreamworld. I have no idea whether Sezer is guilty or not, and as the law in this country is (quite rightly IMO) innocent until proven guilty, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

However, the fact is that most rapes go unreported, and most of those that get reported do not result in a conviction. It is one of the hardest offences to prove - if there are no witnesses (and there usually aren't), it usually comes down to simply the woman's word against the man's. The presence of DNA means nothing if the man says that they slept together with the woman's consent. even if the woman is badly beaten, they would have to prove that it was that man who did it to her. Also, the Crown Prosecution Service - who are responsible for deciding what cases actually go to court - will not usually let a case get to court unless they think that they have a good chance of a conviction. They may well believe that someone is guilty of an offence, but think that they may not get a conviction, and therefore not let the case get to court. So even if the police think the man is guilty, without enough evidence (and in most rape cases, there isn't much evidence), the chances of it getting to court are extremely slim. Simply put, most rapists get away with the offence.

That said, as Sezer has not been charged with an offence, I think there should be a law against his name appearing in the papers linked to a rape charge, especially as he is in no position to respond and defend himself. I'm sceptical of this girl, as she has sold her story to the press, which I wouldn't think are the actions of a typical rape victim (if there is such a thing). Although some might say that she is telling the truth, and is upset that he has not been charged, so has decided to tell the world the truth. But I repeat that I don't believe anybody should be named in the papers when they have not been found guilty.

None if us know whether or not Sezer is guilty - I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. However, I reckon those that like him will think he is innocent, and those that don't will think he is guilty. Either way, there are going to be some ugly scenes when he comes out of the house, and I hope that security are ready for it.

Incidentally - I would add that any girl that falsely accuses a man of rape is a disgrace. It is an utterly despicable thing to do - not only can it ruin a man's life, but it also makes it so much harder for a genuine victim to be believed and get help. There should be a stiff sentence for anyone proven to have lied.

[kwldude]

He DESERVES IT!BOOO SEZER I HATE YOU SO MUCH IF I WAS IN THAT HOUSE WITH YOU I WOULD FIGHT YOU! I HATE SEEING GIRLS BEING USED LIKE THAT

[missposh]

as a muslim i personally find give him smoky bacon quite offensive
it is ovious that mulims dnt eat pork so why make a racist comment like that
it is just as bad as sayin u black basterd

[kwldude]

hey IM BLACK!

[kwldude]

o ryt i see wat u mean!

[MarkWaldorf]

How did Race get into this? I saw a post saying telling someone to give muslims Pig or Meat can be seen as rude

[kwldude]

it iS!