[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Raven

Really? Can you think of a more polite way of saying "I'm watching you young man!"

I wouldn't send my best wishes to anyone I didn't think was particularly nice so I disagree.

[Razor]

Jem has brought nothing to the show and is a wasted housemate. She also comes across as jealous of her sister. Such a shame.

[luminoussun]

I think faye and jem are being selfish.
Jem is blackmailing her sister into not being with Aaron and faye is blackmailing jem by saying she will leave if jem does and saying she is ruining her time.
On one hand i can understand jem looking out for a sister if she believes aaron is using her.But at the same time i feel for faye because she likes aaron and she loves her sister...but she is a woman and decides who she is with.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She pretty much is saying she will leave if Faye doesnt dump Aaron

If my sis came into BB when I was in, ruined my fun, and tried to tell me what to do...I would just say 'well go then' tbh :/

did you swallow a dictionary before you posted the thread Title

[SoBig]

Faye is so ****ing annoying. Aaron needs to get rid of her.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She pretty much is saying she will leave if Faye doesnt dump Aaron

If my sis came into BB when I was in, ruined my fun, and tried to tell me what to do...I would just say 'well go then' tbh :/

I think it's impossible to judge Jem for emotional manipulation when she shares a house with Aaron.

I would never be able to criticise her for it while turning a blind side to him doing it constantly.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I think it's impossible to judge Jem for emotional manipulation when she shares a house with Aaron.

I would never be able to criticise her for it while turning a blind side to him doing it and judge her so harshly.

I have yet to see Aaron threaten Faye with him leaving if he doesnt get his own way, purely to get her to listen to him

I know you think Aaron is playing with fayes emotions and that, but I dont. Hence why I can judge Jem for this when shes in a house with Aaron

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have yet to see Aaron threaten Faye with him leaving if he doesnt get his own way, purely to get her to listen to him

I know you think Aaron is playing with fayes emotions and that, but I dont. Hence why I can judge Jem for this when shes in a house with Aaron

No, he threatens her with 'speaking bans', which is an awful thing to do in a tiny house like that and a sure sign of an emotional bully.

I didn't say he had done what you say here specifically, I was refering to his constant emotional manipulation of both her and the entire house via his constant sulks, moods, etc.

Aaron is a massive emotional manipulator. The biggest in the house.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No, he threatens her with 'speaking bans', which is an awful thing to do in a tiny house like that and a sure sign of an emotional bully.

I didn't say he had done what you say here specifically, I was refering to his constant emotional manipulation of both her and the entire house via his constant sulks, moods, etc.

Aaron is a massive emotional manipulator. The biggest in the house.

I see the speaking ban/sulks thing as just avoiding conflict tbh

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I see the speaking ban/sulks thing as just avoiding conflict tbh

No, sulking is actually a form of conflict, just a passive aggressive one.

The speaking ban threat is just disgusting.

[Vicky.]

So...avoiding conflict is aggressive in some way...interesting

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So...avoiding conflict is aggressive in some way...interesting

Yep, your right, it is interesting.

Passive aggressive behaviours are nasty, but interesting.

But sulking isn't 'avoiding' conflict at all. Like I say, it IS a form of conflict. It IS a form of avoiding direct confrontation, but that isn't the same thing.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

But sulking isn't 'avoiding' conflict at all. Like I say, it IS a form of conflict. It IS a form of avoiding direct confrontation, but that isn't the same thing.

IMO its exactly the same. In real life he would just walk away and stay away, or just not call or visit the person he was mad with until he chills...however he cant exactly do that in there. So it seems like just sulking

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

IMO its exactly the same.

Well, I won't go into why I consider you opinion wrong here Vicky, it's not the place and tbh I cba this time of night lol, so we will agree to disagree on this one.

What I will say though (and your welcome to the last word) is that sulking is very much passive aggressive.

I know it's only Wikipedia, but you can do some deeper reading if your interested; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive...ssive_behavior

Signs and symptoms

The book Living with the Passive–Aggressive Man lists 11 responses that may help identify passive–aggressive behavior:[1]

Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of creating a feeling of insecurity in others or of disguising one's own insecurities.

Fear of competition

Fear of dependency

Fear of intimacy as a means to act out anger: The passive–aggressive often cannot trust. Because of this, they guard themselves against becoming intimately attached to someone.

Making chaotic situations

Making excuses for non-performance in work teams

Obstructionism

Procrastination

Sulking

[Vicky.]

I see you cut off my reason for why I think its is the same (avoiding conflict, as opposed to 'sulking') in this case, because a different environment to usual is involved...

Nevermind