[robb]

Originally Posted by jet

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)

How dare she want kids and a car sometime in the future?? For that she must be punished by the Aaron sect........she must go tonight

[flamingGalah!]

Posts like the OP's make me convonced that they either miss great big chunks of the show or watch with blinkers on...

[lucyann]

So Louise likes a mans man does she ? Well one things for sure, Jay is deffo a mans man lol. Remember he said he had 2 ladymen in Thailand?

[Kazelle]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

You're forgetting Aaron was in the exact same situation with Louise at the start. She was the one he wanted not Faye. Remember when he was going to sabotage the shopping but didn't because he didn't want Louise to hate him...

I do remember that, they were all single and free to like whoever they chose to. I'm not berating Faye for liking Jay at all. My point was that Faye wouldn't let up on Aaron until he admitted he liked her, then it seemed that as soon as he did it was as though it had been written in blood that he was "hers" for her to leave hanging, until she chose to do anything about it.
Very controlling and manipulative behaviour for one so young.

[Kazelle]

Originally Posted by jet

I agree with you on that score. How come the Lord, Master of all he surveys hadn't the intelligence to know this from very early on? Strange, that.

I don't think we can be watching the same show.

He's a young guy, he had two attractive girls in his bed and one of them was giving out. OMG did you not see the trouble that caused for him?
Poor guy was made out to be the worst of the worst. Faye lied and said he'd "gone off at her "when all he actually did was tell her she was out of order and walk away from her, when she used his son to try and guilt trip him.
I don't think his "intelligence" had a chance to come into play because he was instantly sucked into a relationship with Faye after all that backlash.

I saw no big deal made when Faye was all over Anton asking him if he "had a semi" I think you're falling for the little girl hurt act.

[Scream]

Not a huge fan of Aaron so don't say I'm making excuses for him cause I'm really not but.. he might have tried to find a relationship in the house as a game plan but maybe now he does genuinely like her.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)

'At first he fancied Louise'...well what man wouldn't she's a beautiful model..however, like the rest of us, he soon saw through the back of her head by looking into her eyes..let's not criticise a man for wanting more than a beautiful package....

'..when he tried it on with Maisy..' when Maisy and Aaron BOTH snogged each other...AFTER Faye got out of bed and told him to spoon Maisy...BEFORE any romance wit Faye..and oh didn't she guilt trip him for that one...'...you want you're son to be proud.....' cheap shot...

'She burped..take off 10 points'...she burped in his face...hardly your typical mating ritual behaviour..I would doubt there's a H.M in there who would not have been offended by that (bar Jay and Louise)

'She wants kids and a Range Rover..take off 50 points..' he wasn't criticising her for wanting those things..he was realising the differences between them and the realisation that they may not be compatible...something a lot of us have been saying since the start...they may like each other...but they are too different....an honest diary room revelation imo

'the lack of romantic gestures...how Jay is with Louise...' if she wanted a man to make tin foil letters, write her name in blood..stick messages on the door....she chose the wrong man..that's Jay..it's not Aaron....isn't caring for someone about loving THEM..not wanting them to be someone else...

'Aaron in a strop'....from what I recall Aaron's main strop with Faye was the revelation of seeing him nominate him....

..I agree with the last part....she needs to go tonight....leave Aaron to try and regain some of the life she has sucked from him.......

[Cherie]

superb Ammi, superb.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

'At first he fancied Louise'...well what man wouldn't she's a beautiful model..however, like the rest of us, he soon saw through the back of her head by looking into her eyes..let's not criticise a man for wanting more than a beautiful package....

'..when he tried it on with Maisy..' when Maisy and Aaron BOTH snogged each other...AFTER Faye got out of bed and told him to spoon Maisy...BEFORE any romance wit Faye..and oh didn't she guilt trip him for that one...'...you want you're son to be proud.....' cheap shot...

'She burped..take off 10 points'...she burped in his face...hardly your typical mating ritual behaviour..I would doubt there's a H.M in there who would not have been offended by that (bar Jay and Louise)

'She wants kids and a Range Rover..take off 50 points..' he wasn't criticising her for wanting those things..he was realising the differences between them and the realisation that they may not be compatible...something a lot of us have been saying since the start...they may like each other...but they are too different....an honest diary room revelation imo

'the lack of romantic gestures...how Jay is with Louise...' if she wanted a man to make tin foil letters, write her name in blood..stick messages on the door....she chose the wrong man..that's Jay..it's not Aaron....isn't caring for someone about loving THEM..not wanting them to be someone else...

'Aaron in a strop'....from what I recall Aaron's main strop with Faye was the revelation of seeing him nominate him....

..I agree with the last part....she needs to go tonight....leave Aaron to try and regain some of the life she has sucked from him.......

See, once again Aaron can do no wrong. Ever. You need to take off those blinkers.

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Faye is trying to be calculating in her way, definitely, but her emotions rule her so she is a terrible game player.

Aaron is a cold user, great at manipulating, both of Faye and the public.

I'll second that.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Ammi

'At first he fancied Louise'...well what man wouldn't she's a beautiful model..however, like the rest of us, he soon saw through the back of her head by looking into her eyes..let's not criticise a man for wanting more than a beautiful package....

'..when he tried it on with Maisy..' when Maisy and Aaron BOTH snogged each other...AFTER Faye got out of bed and told him to spoon Maisy...BEFORE any romance wit Faye..and oh didn't she guilt trip him for that one...'...you want you're son to be proud.....' cheap shot...

'She burped..take off 10 points'...she burped in his face...hardly your typical mating ritual behaviour..I would doubt there's a H.M in there who would not have been offended by that (bar Jay and Louise)

'She wants kids and a Range Rover..take off 50 points..' he wasn't criticising her for wanting those things..he was realising the differences between them and the realisation that they may not be compatible...something a lot of us have been saying since the start...they may like each other...but they are too different....an honest diary room revelation imo

'the lack of romantic gestures...how Jay is with Louise...' if she wanted a man to make tin foil letters, write her name in blood..stick messages on the door....she chose the wrong man..that's Jay..it's not Aaron....isn't caring for someone about loving THEM..not wanting them to be someone else...

'Aaron in a strop'....from what I recall Aaron's main strop with Faye was the revelation of seeing him nominate him....

..I agree with the last part....she needs to go tonight....leave Aaron to try and regain some of the life she has sucked from him.......

Liking the points system there, and yes 60 points plus points for the other things you mention & such as her not wanting children till 30, and her childish behavior have to be considered. Iv felt Aaron was way past my tolerance limit of 100 points for a long while now. If he still shows a romantic interest in Faye from this point given she stays, this is surely evidence she is part of his strategy i think.