[Jake.]

Lets also remember that CBB9 is coming up sopn, and CBB8 did wonders for 5, so lets hope they can get in some decent celebs so that it can match CBB8s success

[Lex]

Originally Posted by sexyb4ck

i enjoyed this series more than the last one on channel 4

I agree!

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

Yes it has been good,what's the alternative No BB AT ALL.
We have to thank channel 5 ,they needn't have bothered with it.
There are a lot of people that don't like BB but for the hardened fans it's wonderful.

This BB is nothing at all like previous BB, a completely different show. I'm a "hardened fan" since BB1 & it certainly isn't wonderful.

[Maia]

It's been much better than some of the recent C4 series. It's definitely good for a start, I just hope for the next series they can experiment further until they get the mix right, bring back the live feed, tone down the editing perhaps - as for this series though, overall I'm rather pleased.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

I may be wrong but I think I read that the share has only increased by around 0.3 which is obviously a lot lower than expected, the share for Big Brother even this week has been as low as 4%. It should be the highest rated & share in C5's schedule of which it's regularly neither.

Why are you picking out the bad examples and none of the good ones? What about the high eviction percentages ect

[AJ.]

The highest & best examples of the series are still very bad ratings, has it even been over 2M once?

[Jake.]

Bad for Big Brother? Yes. Bad for Channel 5? No. Like I said, it's all about audience share, not ratings. Big Brother has mostly been winning its slot. And considering the success of CBB8 before hand, Channel 5 must be smiling.

[AJ.]

bullsh1t.

[Benji10uk]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

This BB is nothing at all like previous BB, a completely different show. I'm a "hardened fan" since BB1 & it certainly isn't wonderful.

Im also a die hard fan from Series 1 - and no - this series isnt wonderful - but it also isnt as bad as BB4 for example. There is something about this series though that is fresh - and so makes me watch it, and because it has different influences (such as producers etc) its certainly different.

Different is good for BB, especially at this stage. So again, it is successful if your looking at this series on its own, not comparing it with other series and looking at this series as almost a new tv show.

Im not very good at explaining what i mean very well. Hopefully my point got across??

[Benji10uk]

People need to not compare this BB with any other BB as its almost a totally different tv show, and on a different channel.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

The highest & best examples of the series are still very bad ratings, has it even been over 2M once?

Only on launch night, 2.77m - it dropped a million the next night and never recovered beyond 1.93m (official, AFAIK)

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

bullsh1t.

How is it? Just because it has lost to the XTRA Factor a few times, that isnt to say that it hasnt been winning its slot alot of the time. Anyway, like I was explaining, its all about the audience share and the show reaching to its demographic

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by JH95

Bad for Big Brother? Yes. Bad for Channel 5? No. Like I said, it's all about audience share, not ratings. Big Brother has mostly been winning its slot. And considering the success of CBB8 before hand, Channel 5 must be smiling.

Bad for C5? it cost £40M and is not always the ratings winner in it's own schedule & I'm not sure if it has even won it's slot once.

Originally Posted by Benji10uk

Im also a die hard fan from Series 1 - and no - this series isnt wonderful - but it also isnt as bad as BB4 for example. There is something about this series though that is fresh - and so makes me watch it, and because it has different influences (such as producers etc) its certainly different.

Different is good for BB, especially at this stage. So again, it is successful if your looking at this series on its own, not comparing it with other series and looking at this series as almost a new tv show.

Im not very good at explaining what i mean very well. Hopefully my point got across??

How is it successful in any terms? No original thought atall it's just a ripoff biased contrived version of towie/BBUS with a cheap & tacky C5 twist
.

Originally Posted by Omah

Only on launch night, 2.77m - it dropped a million the next night and never recovered beyond 1.93m (official, AFAIK)

1.93 is the highest of the series, would that be in the lowest 5 episodes ever BB1-11?

[ozzyshaggah]

c5 will be ecstatic with results on a number of levels considering it was a new product to them
the bb product is a viable investment so they will continue with it

yes they must make some changes for next year l/f for example is just one

[psychtracker]

I think the positives have been with the going a bit more minimalist in some ways. 9 weeks is ample, i think they proved you don't need totally over the top lunatics. 15 HMs was ok. You don't need 28 HMs, with triple eviction twists etc.. I think the spin off shows are unnecessary, and should be replaced with a daily live feed show of an hour or two, later at night, and of course a web based 24/7 LF is essential.

[Jake.]

Believe it or not, BOTS has also being doing very well, because befpre hand 5* would never had seen 600,000 viewers

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

Bad for C5? it cost £40M and is not always the ratings winner in it's own schedule & I'm not sure if it has even won it's slot once.


How is it successful in any terms? No original thought atall it's just a ripoff biased contrived version of towie/BBUS with a cheap & tacky C5 twist
.

1.93 is the highest of the series, would that be in the lowest 5 episodes ever BB1-11?

I cqnnot be bothered to talk about this with someone who doesnt wish to listen -.-

[Pronshi]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

It's been much better than some of the recent C4 series. It's definitely good for a start, I just hope for the next series they can experiment further until they get the mix right, bring back the live feed, tone down the editing perhaps - as for this series though, overall I'm rather pleased.

i hope they can improve next year too

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pronshi

Hai TIBB!
Being a while, I usually just lurk on forums to see others opinions.
But I would just like to ask what do you think, do you think Big Brother has done well for channel 5's first year. Even thou they kinda mucked it up from the start.
Not gonna mention it, encase people go crazy so ill leave it out, but i mean things like the fact it was on straight after the CBB.

I think it did ok, for channel 5, although if we look at BB1 on channel 4 that didnt do so great either, maybe this year channel 5 just wanted to play about with the show and test out the waters

Maybe next year will be epic!
I have to admit i hated here but overall the housemate that got me into the show this year was Rebecca, plain simple, i hated her and i could not stop screaming at the telly, yet i was sad to see her go!

So yea i thought this year was basic but did channel 5 well, lets see what will happen next year.

(Yes i know there is one week left but lets just see what happens)

What are you talking about lol BB1 on Channel 4 was a massive hit. It was a phenomenon and 9 million people watched the final. There was a massive press conference when nick was kicked out and it constantly made it onto the mainstream news.

It averaged 4.7 million viewers.

Hardly a flop lol.

Going back to BB on Channel 5 though. No it has underperformed sadly.

When daytime soap "Doctors" is getting more viewers than BB then you know its just not working.

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by JH95

I cqnnot be bothered to talk about this with someone who doesnt wish to listen -.-

I am listening but what you're saying is wrong. "Big Brother has mostly been winning its slot" No it hasn't, I'm not sure it's even done that once this series, it's mostly been either lowest or second lowest share & rating.

BBBOTS has had surprising good & consistent ratings though.

[joeysteele]

Overall it's probably done enough to be deemed successful enough. The bigger advertisers are there especially on eviction nights and so I would say they will be content rather than ecstatic at its rating.

They 'know' what to do if they want bigger ratings next year though, bring in much more footage and/or live feed fully or in part.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ

I am listening but what you're saying is wrong. "Big Brother has mostly been winning its slot" No it hasn't, I'm not sure it's even done that once this series, it's mostly been either lowest or second lowest share & rating.

BBBOTS has had surprising good & consistent ratings though.

But every post of yours seems to only consider ratings, not the fact of audience share that I have been bringing up (apart from your post above). No one should be comparing this to BB1 or the highest rated Big Brothers, because its been on our screens for some time now, and unless it ever gets picked up by ITV1 (which it won't) its not going to hit them highs again . We need to focus on what its doing for 5 before anything else.

[Kazakh]

BB continues it's inexorable slide. The Producers have a myopic sense of what makes a good HM as evinced by the spooge offered these last few seasons. What, then, will C5 do? Probably more of the same next year. The Club 18-30 format will only draw die hard fans, Endemol have a legal one year remaining so Desmond et al may as well run the effing show into the ground - sad really.

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by JH95

But every post of yours seems to only consider ratings, not the fact of audience share that I have been bringing up (apart from your post above). No one should be comparing this to BB1 or the highest rated Big Brothers, because its been on our screens for some time now, and unless it ever gets picked up by ITV1 (which it won't) its not going to hit them highs again . We need to focus on what its doing for 5 before anything else.

I'm not comparing it against the highest rating series, the highest rating/share episode this series would still be on the lowest 5 episodes from series 1-11 (I think..) like I said this series of BB has mostly come last in it's timeslot vs C1-4 & even ITV2 sometimes which is definitely not good enough for something that costs £40M but even that is not why I call this series a failure! It's the content; TOWIE/BBUS soap hybrid, no original BB or new concepts, only country without livefeed. C5 had an opportunity to change the current public opinion on Big Brother of those 6M people that tuned in to the launch but instead affirmed it & managed to turn 80% away. If the show was atall decent & what people wanted to watch the ratings would be improving whether there was sufficient advertisement or not but instead they are steadily falling from an already disappointing figure.

[Stu]

In my own helplessly judgemental way I'm basing the series on those I know who still watch it and those I recognise in the media and to a lesser extent these forums who still watch it.

Whilst a spastic TV argument was always launched at Big Brother it always had a large group of people from respected TV critics to the Charlie Brookers to these odd "you're too smart to watch a show like this" folks who have often passed through these forums who adored the show. These kind of people don't exist anymore.

The only people I see watching the show now are relatively young people, relatively stupid people, or people who - and fair enough if that is your thing - never took a vital interest in the integrity of the format and just wanted a show to watch.