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When Louise first walked into the house and went on about she's never had a one night stand, and will not have sex in the house, etc, etc - I thought OK a girl with morals and dignity good on you.

After seeing some of the clips and pictures floating around the internet I look at Louise and I think porn star. I would hate to know what would be found if someone did a little bit of digging.
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When Louise first walked into the house and went on about she's never had a one night stand, and will not have sex in the house, etc, etc - I thought OK a girl with morals and dignity good on you.

After seeing some of the clips and pictures floating around the internet I look at Louise and I think porn star. I would hate to know what would be found if someone did a little bit of digging.
I know, in the first 3 weeks Louise was at pains to point out that she was a traditional girl - telling a panting Anton and Jay in the bed room 'I would never just sleep with a random guy, but when I am in a relationship I'd do anything for my man'. I didn't realise anything really meant anything!
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I agree, no decent girl would go near Justin ,she made herself look a total tw@ when she said it was sexy him wiping his ass on her pillow ,and she would let him **** on her hair, what self respecting person would say such things? she looks cheap and dirty and earned herself no respect in there ,how can she face her Mum after saying things like this ?
She has convinced herself that cause Jay gets cheers each week that the public must love his poo fetish and general grubbiness. And she has 'acted' accordingly. Little does she know that the pro-geordie crowd on eviction nights is not representative of the viewing public.

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Louise's weirdness is actually one of the things I quite like about her. Not because I approve of her poo fetish, I don't it's vile, but because it is soo unexpected and makes her a bit more interesting, than just a generic bland glamour model.

I remember in week 1 she was all prim and proper. Not wanting to join the Wolfpack. Saying how 'normal' she was, how men never chat her up. Clinging to Aaron and Mark in week 1. She was like a northern Kate Middleton. It all makes sense now. She changed completely the week Maisy-Faye were up.

When Louise was talking about weddings in the diary room, and pooing on his head you could literally see the alarm bells going off in Jay's head. He will shag her (again) but clearly does not want anything really long term.

Louise herself admits she loves picking scabs, farting, pooing, picking her nose and eating it etc. Theres a clip on day 9 (the night Aaron was saved against Tashie) when Faye is trying to get to know Aaron and in the background you can clearly see Mark picking a happy Louise's nose. I remember as I was a rabid Mark fan and was a bit sickened but dismissed it at the time as a one-off.
Doesnt make her more or less interesting, it just confirms to me that she is a vile **** who will do anything to further her career and gain fame. Thats deeply unattractive imo.

As for the Faye Maisy thing, do you not remember it was basically her who slowly turned the wolfpack against them. She has been sly throughout the show, after she dumped Jay, Faarons relationship stepped up a notch and you could see her brain whirring away, that night she got herself tipsy and threw herself back into the part (literally) by draping herself all over him (oddly he never questioned the change of heart)
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If I were Louise I'd be happy to get rid of him without any problems. If he's gone of her, it's all good.
But this isn't about you. It's about Jay and Louise.

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Louise obviously has a faeces fetish and some odd submissive sexual needs
There's something quite distrubing it all - and her really. Her parents must be so proud to see their beautiful looking daughter showing the world that beauty is indeed, only skin deep.

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When Louise first walked into the house and went on about she's never had a one night stand, and will not have sex in the house, etc, etc - I thought OK a girl with morals and dignity good on you.

After seeing some of the clips and pictures floating around the internet I look at Louise and I think porn star. I would hate to know what would be found if someone did a little bit of digging.
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I know, in the first 3 weeks Louise was at pains to point out that she was a traditional girl - telling a panting Anton and Jay in the bed room 'I would never just sleep with a random guy, but when I am in a relationship I'd do anything for my man'. I didn't realise anything really meant anything!
Couldn't agree more. all this nonsense about her having morals - she hasn't a clue what the word means (unsurprisingly).

I can see her having damaged any half decent modelling / acting career she ever had - and there being only one of a few very 'lurid' type roles being thrown her way when she comes out of the house.

Any half decent fashion house or respectable modelling agency will want nothing to do with her now.

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Louise obviously has a faeces fetish and some odd submissive sexual needs
I think she's just telling Jay what she thinks he wants to hear, and getting it horribly wrong. He's obviously obsessed with bodily functions and expulsions, so she's pretending to have an interest in it all too. It's like some women going along to watch the footy with their boyfriends despite having no real interest in it.
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I think she's just telling Jay what she thinks he wants to hear, and getting it horribly wrong. He's obviously obsessed with bodily functions and expulsions, so she's pretending to have an interest in it all too. It's like some women going along to watch the footy with their boyfriends despite having no real interest in it.


Yeah but Jay hates football so she went for the next best thing
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Perhaps hed prefer Pooball....
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I think she's just telling Jay what she thinks he wants to hear, and getting it horribly wrong. He's obviously obsessed with bodily functions and expulsions, so she's pretending to have an interest in it all too. It's like some women going along to watch the footy with their boyfriends despite having no real interest in it.
In my opinion this disection of her character is spot on. I keep saying this, but she is feeble minded; this is evident to all. It's truly sad and a travesty that putting herself in the public eye will only have served to damage her career further.
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Yeah but Jay hates football so she went for the next best thing
Good point. Perhaps we'd have been saved all this poo talk if only Jay had been into footy.

I do find it odd that as a Geordie Jay isn't into footy. I'm from Sunderland and I've yet to meet a Geordie who isn't part of the Toon Army, hates us Mackems and wants to kick my head in over it.
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I think she's just telling Jay what she thinks he wants to hear, and getting it horribly wrong. He's obviously obsessed with bodily functions and expulsions, so she's pretending to have an interest in it all too. It's like some women going along to watch the footy with their boyfriends despite having no real interest in it.


Most normal men don't like doormats.

and like a doormat, one it's been trod on enough, once it's gotten as filthy as it can get, it's normally chucked out, in favour of a fresh, clean, more pleasant looking one.
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Most normal men don't like doormats.

and like a doormat, one it's been trod on enough, once it's gotten as filthy as it can get, it's normally chucked out, in favour of a fresh, clean, more pleasant looking one.
do you speak for 'most normal men' then?
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I think she's just telling Jay what she thinks he wants to hear, and getting it horribly wrong. He's obviously obsessed with bodily functions and expulsions, so she's pretending to have an interest in it all too. It's like some women going along to watch the footy with their boyfriends despite having no real interest in it.
No, disagree I do think Louise is into it. It's just that people don't like to think of women having fetishes or having perversions or sick interests. It really pees me off when people say women are only paedophiles because they go along with what their men do I think as woman have become more liberated and independent they have adopted some of the freedoms and therefore perversions that men have. Louise is a bit of a poo perv. If she wasn't surely she must know she's ruining any career she might have by lying? Louise (like Alex) doesn't always shower and had to be told by Jay to shave her armpits and her toes.

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do you speak for 'most normal men' then?
FC - stop being so antagonistic. I'll put my opinion over whichever way I want to.

Okay.
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In my opinion this disection of her character is spot on. I keep saying this, but she is feeble minded; this is evident to all. It's truly sad and a travesty that putting herself in the public eye will only have served to damage her career further.
I think that what's sad is that whoever she ends up, be it Jay or someone else, they'll probably have no respect for her and treat her like crap because she has no respect for herself. Essentially, I don't think she's a bad person, she's just not very bright and is easily led. I suspect she'll end up with someone who wouldn't want her modelling anyway, so her career will be out of the window and she'll agree to that in some twisted belief that she's pleasing her man.

She needs to have an intensive course in feminisim with someone like Germain Greer and grow some (metaphorical) balls.
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Good point. Perhaps we'd have been saved all this poo talk if only Jay had been into footy.

I do find it odd that as a Geordie Jay isn't into footy. I'm from Sunderland and I've yet to meet a Geordie who isn't part of the Toon Army, hates us Mackems and wants to kick my head in over it.
That really shocked me, and I always wondered why Aaron only talked footy with Mark and even Harry. I assumed Jay was a footy and fan supported Newcastle, surely. Not realising that he doesn't and that I have stereotyped him. When Aaron said his hobbies are footy, space and marine life I was pleasant;y surprised Jay seemed disinterested in footy and said they'd have sauna chat about space! He's obviously into superstitions and horoscopes which is unusual for a bloke like him, but again it makes him a bit more interesting than otherwise.

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Most normal men don't like doormats.
I think that's debatable. Some men like to be the one to wear the trousers, some like women to rule the roost and the sensible ones approach relationships like equal partnerships.

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i think this is likely what will happen to Louise.
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I think that what's sad is that whoever she ends up, be it Jay or someone else, they'll probably have no respect for her and treat her like crap because she has no respect for herself. Essentially, I don't think she's a bad person, she's just not very bright and is easily led. I suspect she'll end up with someone who wouldn't want her modelling anyway, so her career will be out of the window and she'll agree to that in some twisted belief that she's pleasing her man.

She needs to have an intensive course in feminisim with someone like Germain Greer and grow some (metaphorical) balls.
couldn't agree more - well said.
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FC - stop being so antagonistic. I'll put my opinion over whichever way I want to.

Okay.
it's not antagonistic, it's just that before it was 'most normal men' but now it's miraculously transformed into your opinion. Make your mind up please
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watch me poo!,lol
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i think this is likely what will happen to Louise.
There is a difference between who rules to roost - and who is the most dominating partner in the vast majority of relationships - and that comes from respect.

Anyone who allows themselves to be treated as a doormat however - that's a different ball game altogether: and no respect is founded on that.
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No, disagree I do think Louise is into it. It's just that people don't like to think of women having fetishes or having perversions or sick interests. It really pees me off when people say women are only paedophiles because they go along with what their men do I think as woman have become more liberated and independent they have adopted some of the freedoms and therefore perversions that men have. Louise is a bit of a poo perv. If she wasn't surely she must know she's ruining any career she might have by lying?
I think we'll have to just disagree on this one. I think Louise is faking it, and knowing it may affect her career assumes a level of intelligence I don't think she has.

I have no problem with liberated women having fetishes - as humans we all have some fetish or other I think, men and women, and as I've said on another thread, I have no problem with couples exploring and fulfilling each other's sexual desires in a consensual manner, I just don't want to see or hear about them on tv.
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it's not antagonistic, it's just that before it was 'most normal men' but now it's miraculously transformed into your opinion. Make your mind up please
You seem to be forgetting once crucial aspect: it is MY opinion.
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There is a difference between who rules to roost - and who is the most dominating partner in the vast majority of relationships - and that comes from respect.

Anyone who allows themselves to be treated as a doormat however - that's a different ball game altogether: and no respect is founded on that.
Obviously every couple has a different balance of power, but there does seem to be a growing couple fetish for dominant male partners BECAUSE of feminism.
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There is a difference between who rules to roost - and who is the most dominating partner in the vast majority of relationships - and that comes from respect.

Anyone who allows themselves to be treated as a doormat however - that's a different ball game altogether: and no respect is founded on that.
I think we're just into semantics here, but actually agreeing.
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Obviously every couple has a different balance of power, but there does seem to be a growing couple fetish for dominant male partners BECAUSE of feminism.

I'd disagree that a 'growing couple fetish' is the correct terminology for a dominant male parter.

As for any connection with feminism, I'd say that was a whole different topic of discussion.
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