[Angus]

Originally Posted by JH95

Denise would be saved any day of the week

Deluded, much? Not everyone watches the trashy "Loose Women" who spend most of their time ridiculing men, commenting on political and social issues about which they don't have a scooby do, and sitting in judgment on all and sundry.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by JH95

Denise would be saved any day of the week

No she won't. She'll leave before Michael does for sure

[Jords]

He wad rude and aggressive, going down the same path as Vinnie. People are only sniffing his arse because of his name, yeah Denise is a crazy drunk but y'know what? At least she has fun. Michael is a miserable git. I do like him because he has good humour at times, but hes slowly creeping down in my estimations.

[snookered]

Some psychotherapists would charge thousands for Michaels diagnosis

He just saved her a fortune.

[Bojangles]

I like Michael and want him to win.They say the truth hurts and it did with Denise tonight.
However I did think he could have put it a bit more delicately than he did.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

I like Michael and want him to win.They say the truth hurts and it did with Denise tonight.
However I did think he could have put it a bit more delicately than he did.

Lousy excuse using that saying in this case, Denise has no way near been that bad (nor had Michael up until tonight!)

[Jack_]

They are both great housemates and are vital if this series is going to remain entertaining, to hate one or both of them would just be idiotic.

He was pretty out of order and nasty with his reasoning tonight I have to be honest, but I still laughed and that doesn't detract from the fact that he's a great housemate.

[joeysteele]

I like Michael, but he should leave mental issues out of things, he has done himself no favours tonight and did in my view overstep the mark.

Denise annoys him and is a vexation to him but to bring in that he thinks she is mentally unbalanced was totally wrong.I certainly would take offence if anyone said that about me and I just hope he will retract it and apologise for that section of his remarks while still saying she annoys him so it's best if they carry out routine courteisies rather than engage in deep conversations for the rest of their time in the house.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Michael has grown on me but I think he over-stepped the mark tonight.... I know he has said similar things in the diary room...but that was brutal.
Denise has been desperate to be his friend...too desperate after a drink or two...but no way did she deserve that tonight.... I really felt for her.

Unless Michael can retrieve the situation then I think he will have caused himself more harm than good!!!

Totally disgusting a vile object he showed himself to be, his true colours shone through

[rogerb]

[QUOTE=rusticgal;4887161]Michael has grown on me but I think he over-stepped the mark tonight.... I know he has said similar things in the diary room...but that was brutal.
Denise has been desperate to be his friend...too desperate after a drink or two...but no way did she deserve that tonight.... I really felt for her.

Unless Michael can retrieve the situation then I think he will have caused himself more harm than good!!![/QUOT
michael is the only hosemate that told it like he would have in the diary room.
the incinsere, 'oh im voting for yoy but i love you. is hypocasy, or just plain lying.
he is not my favourite hosemate, but at least he told the truth.

[Patricia4]

I will save him over Denise and Im sure there is alot more that wiil.
I agree with his comment say what you feel good on him.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

I will save him over Denise and Im sure there is alot more that wiil.
I agree with his comment say what you feel good on him.

I will vote for him as well tbh but I think that a lot of people will see the difference culturally. Not a lot like the thought of an outsider winning and therefore they will go for the one whom they think is underdog, Denise. It wont matter that he has been the underdog with her antics, right from the beginning, it wont matter that she has made it unbearable for him in the house. It wont matter that he dared to stand up for himself.....they wont see the obvious, he has spoken and now many deem him as the bully. Oh dear how many times have we seen this happen over the years, how dare the men have a say.......Michael to win.,

[Livia]

All these people are in show business. It's a brutal world. If they can't handle a little criticism then really, they should have someone twirl them in bubble wrap and then never leave the house.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

All these people are in show business. It's a brutal world. If they can't handle a little criticism then really, they should have someone twirl them in bubble wrap and then never leave the house.

Isn't this what Denise does for a day job on loose women....make judgements...? Madsen has had her at close quarters for nearly 2 weeks now, I think he at least is qualified to make a judgement...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by CherieB

Isn't this what Denise does for a day job on loose women....make judgements...? Madsen has had her at close quarters for nearly 2 weeks now, I think he at least is qualified to make a judgement...

That is a very good point CherieB. Come to think about it - and not that I am a regular viewer - but I've heard that bunch of harridans say some bloody awful things about men on that programme. Now everyone has to tiptoe around Denise in case she gets upset?

[pixee]

I don't understand why it matters.

So does it make any difference if they get out and see that you've slagged them off rotten in the diary room? Is that better?

[craigie2405]

I think what he done to that poor woman was disgusting. That really really hurt Denise, I wanted to give her a big cuddle x

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by craigie2405

I think what he done to that poor woman was disgusting. That really really hurt Denise, I wanted to give her a big cuddle x

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

Like he didn't react the night she sat on his bed threatening to smash his face and raising her fist to his face.How he held back I'll never know.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

When did that happen?

[MrWong]

I prefered his nom of Denise last week

She’s a pretentious, incomprehensible, drunken b****h!”

[spitfire]

He only told the truth better than all this, "I talk to you the least" rubbish. Any one got a link so I can view it again, thanks

[Truth Teller]

I am copying this post from a poster on DS. It is a very truthful personal view of the emotional issues Denise has and maybe some forum members will cut Michael some slack about his comment last night:

denise... depression... ENOUGH

"I've had a look through the message board and felt compelled to write this.

There's a lot of comments on here relating to denise and her mental health. I've suffered depression the last 9 years, been hospitalised for it etc etc....
As patronising as this may sound to you, it is true; unless you have been through depression, you cannot know what it's like. I'm not going to single out people with quotes, but some of you seem to think it's something to be embarresed about, or that they know the ins and outs of it because a friend of a friend had it, or, more related to BB, that a sufferer should be wrapped in cotton wool despite them feeling well enough to put themselves into such a stressfull experience as BB.

If i applied to go in BB, i would not be allowed in because of my mental health, ~FACT. there's a good reason for this, and the rule shouldn't change because of a celebrity status.

denise suffers depression ~FACT

alchohol is a depressant, you are strongly discouraged from drinking at all by doctors whilst suffering depression, it also stops anti-depressants working,. ~FACT

denise should not be in there in the first place. this is nothing against her. this is just common sense. and the usual BB rules for "normal" people.

and as for the michael madsen comment, saying denise is emotionally disturbed.. guess what? he's right.

denise is emotionally disturbed, same way as i'm emotionally disturbed. quoted from the oxford english dictionary: "disturbed: having emotional or mental problems."
denise HAS got emotional/mental problems. that is undisputable. this doesn't mean that i'm slagging her off. having emotional/mental problems isn't something to be ashamed of.
I have heard the word "disturbed" used by doctors, as i assume denise has, and if the story of michael being sectioned is true, he'll have heard it in that context too.

let's say though, that he did say it out of nastiness, it is still the most real, meaningful, wake up call of a sentence denise has heard in there, there was more genuine care in his abrupt comment (I remind you, being disturbed mentally ill etc... is NOT an insult as so many of you seem to think it is) than has been shown to her from the other housemates.

I'm disturbed. I didn't ask for it, i'd rather not have it, but i cope with it as best i can and i'm a proud".

[smudgie]

Very good personal account of someones view on their own depression.

I too have suffered bouts of depression on and off over the past 30 years, starting off with post natal depression. I can put my hand on my heart and assure you now that I do not consider myself disturbed in any way, mentally or emotional.
As Denise is/was not actually suffering from a bout of depression when she went in the house she has as much right as any other housemate to be in there. If she developed depression again whist in there I would hope she woud be given the help she would need and leave the show.
Everyones account of how they cope with depression would probaby not be the same.

[Parmy]

Welch also admitted to using cocaine while filming Coronation Street and hitting her husband's head with a lamp shade after a "drink-fuelled row".
Welch confessed that her marriage was nearly ruined because of her mental illness, as well as an affair she had during the midst of her depression. With the help of her former Coronation Street co-star Kevin 'Curly Watts' Kennedy (a recovering alcoholic), she attended Alcoholics Anonymous and suggested that this helped her to end her dependency on alcohol. She claimed that it was the "hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life, but it is also the thing that I'm proudest of. And my mental health is now so much better than it was when I was drinking...I will always have depression—but I'm in control of it now because I've given up drinking". On 29 April 2010 her 320 Page autobiography Pulling Myself Together was published, in which she described how she overcame her problems with alcohol, drugs and depression. It became a best seller in the UK.




I don't think she's fully recovered, maybe bb should step in and take the poor cow out for her own good. The tit show should have been the final straw.