[Kizzy]

I feel it has everything to do with the UN we are unified to aid each, other I have no idea on how the donations are shared. I also agree with jesus, we too have many extremely wealthy bankers and businessmen. Some of whom have transferred their companies to India to save money....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I feel it has everything to do with the UN we are unified to aid each, other I have no idea on how the donations are shared. I also agree with jesus, we too have many extremely wealthy bankers and businessmen. Some of whom have transferred their companies to India to save money....

Like I said, the original discussion wasn't about the UN, neither is it about wealthy bankers in this country. It's about the amount of money the UK hands to India every year, and the fact that we are giving them money we have borrowed, and are paying a staggering amount of interest on.

[Kizzy]

Well i made it about the UN, as it was relevant to the discussion, Britain is not alone in donating aid to developing countries, especially if we free trade with said country. and i raised the topic of wealth as it had been commented on previously.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Well i made it about the UN, as it was relevant to the discussion, Britain is not alone in donating aid to developing countries, especially if we free trade with said country. and i raised the topic of wealth as it had been commented on previously.

Maybe you should start a thread about the UN's involvement in ending world poverty. I fail to see the relevance of the UN in this particular discussion, and simply bringing it up in every post doesn't make it more relevant.

[Shasown]

We pump money into Indias poorer quarter for humanitarian reasons, while India develops nuclear weapons, a space program and bolsters their defence by buying aircraft, weapons and ships from ourselves and other Western countries.

It does make you wonder.

[waterhog]

i am thinking i have started a new war with this poem and from now on i am going to zip it and not write any more poems - so sorry everyone but as fatz would say CHILAX lol

[Livia]

Originally Posted by madJOE

i am thinking i have started a new war with this poem and from now on i am going to zip it and not write any more poems - so sorry everyone but as fatz would say CHILAX lol

I thought you might be pleased to see such a lively debate with so many different opinions. No one's getting irate, no one's called anyone else an idiot, no one's flounced off in a huff... it's what debating's all about, surely.

Originally Posted by Livia

I thought you might be pleased to see such a lively debate with so many different opinions. No one's getting irate, no one's called anyone else an idiot, no one's flounced off in a huff... it's what debating's all about, surely.

I'd even go as far, as calling it a mass debate

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

I'd even go as far, as calling it a mass debate

LOL... excellent. I like that. I'm nicking it.

[Kizzy]

why should i start a new thread? you have stated that the wider world are involved....many Nations that are United in the hope of ending world poverty maybe?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

why should i start a new thread? you have stated that the wider world are involved....many Nations that are United in the hope of ending world poverty maybe?

You really do have a hopelessly rosy and optimistic view of the UN. The UN is a toothless waste of cash where everyone pussyfoots around issues so as not to offend anyone else. See how the threat of UN Resolutions have ended war and aggression and stopped genocide? See how the UN Peacekeeping Force have deposed dictators and kept a country ticking over till an election can be held? See how they're first in to a disaster-hit area with aid? No, me neither. They fly celebrities around the world to poverty-stricken areas – first-class of course - so that they can have their photos taken. The fact that the UN is our best effort at bringing everyone together doesn't mean that it's perfect, or even effective.

This discussion is about the UK giving money to a country that is part of the Commonwealth. I still don't know what you UN point is, because you don’t seem to have one relevant to this particular discussion. Which is why I suggested you start another thread. It's up to you... I've done discussing the UN in this thread though.

[Kizzy]

Ok well we will agree to disagree on this point, all im saying is we are not a stand alone country when i comes to aid donations . And the reason the UN highlight the plight of certain areas using celebrities, im assuming is our media would take no interest in these issues if sir bob, lenny henry or cheryl cole were not there to sell papers?
Once it has public attention, groups can put pressure on MPs and in turn the government to do something ...like offering aid, wether the recieving government want it or not.
I have gone as far as i can to show my point has relevance in this thread, i dont need to keep making the same point over and over. If anyone had a better soloution to the problems faced by the wider world, other than 'sort yourselves out' many leaders of the western world would be pleased to hear it?

[Angus]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-your-aid.html


Ungrateful sods. Just leave them to it, they're a richer country than we are. You don't see the Indian Government sending aid to our inner cities and slums where British money should be better spent.

[waterhog]

angus - is that you mrs brown ?