[Yayita]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because i don't think Deana has been bullied. Ash and Shiv on the other hand are bullying Lauren. Without a doubt! Just my opinion.

OK then, your entitled to that.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because i don't think Deana has been bullied. Ash and Shiv on the other hand are bullying Lauren. Without a doubt! Just my opinion.

How is it bullying? Most of the arguments between Shiveonne and Lauren have centred around ciggerates, and Lauren is just as mean as Ashleigh is behind each others back.

No bullying.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

How is she fake? I'd be pissed off too if i was in her place. The way Ash has treated her is a disgrace. Her and Shiv pick on her constantly.

She is fake because like the OP is stating she is nice and hanging out for the so called "nasty" crew and having a laugh, then slagging them off with Luke A behind their backs... that is bitching.

[rusticgal]

I love Lauren. Lauren knows they all dislike her other than Adam and Luke A.... SHE IS PLAYING THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME.... its soooooo funny.

Lauren to WIN...

[bbfan1991]

She is fake. ALL the housemates are to some extent just in playing the game because the BB house is a false environment and it shows your good/bad sides.

I just find her very irritating and too needy.

[smeagol]

i cant make out lauren. i dont know if she's playing a game or not. she wont say anyhing to people cause she doesn't want to lose the game or just cause she wants to be liked and it isnt in her nature to be like we wnt her to be,
she has fun with conor ash etc then 2 seconds later agrees about them being this and that. she agrees with everyone . she is intresting, the adam thing is rather odd as well.
i like her id like to think she's just a nice fun person who doesn't want to be hated and doesn't like trouble so tries to be friendly with all people. but she does give me doubts sometimes of how true she really is. she's very careful in what she says.
i think she's genuine hopefully she is. still my 2nd fav at mo

[InOne]

Lovely Lauren is the most kind and genuine in there You should take a look at some of the other HM's before you start calling people two faced.

[WozMan]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

There many distinctions between self-preservation/indecisiveness/ambivalence/being two-faced. Lauren's actions do not seem to be steeped in malice but reflect a desire to be accepted and liked and avoid confrontation. Hence she will interact with those she feels are close and those by whom she is threatened, giving little away to isolate herself, and her discussion of how she really feels isn't really bitching. You may hate half the people you work with but there is no benefit from shouting this from the rooftops on a daily basis. You simply get on as best you can, and whinge to your nearest and dearest when you get home. The inability to put these boundaries in place with constant argument as a result (I think this is the "being real" that everyone seems to aspire to), is actually the pathological behaviour and gets people nowhere in the real world.

SPOT ON OPTIMISTIC!! Her bahaviour is completely normal and genuine for her personality and the circumstances she has undergone in the house. If DTM finds every person who has ever complained about a person without directly confronting them on it he must hate an AWFUL lot of people. That's just not healthy

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Of course she's fake. Like pretending to be attracted to adam there's nobody else for her to do this with

You just countered your own argument there. She is doing what any healthy single female would do. She is flirting with some one whom she feels comfortable with who is a strong, confidant, well-adjusted man. Poor girl needs to have some fun with the constant tension of being stuck with people who have been nasty with her from the first week.

Originally Posted by InOne

Lovely Lauren is the most kind and genuine in there You should take a look at some of the other HM's before you start calling people two faced.

SOOO true. The latest Caroline hate campaign against Luke A is a great example. She is ACTIVELY seeking to turn people's opinions against Luke A. She is using every piece of information she can and applying massive amounts of effort and imagination to DEMONISE the lad. Even after Ashleigh disagrees with Caz and says Luke A is a nice person she insists 'NO! He ISN'T! He said X and Y...'

Lauren merely vents about people who are stressing her out. She tried her ABSOLUTE BEST to work on her relationship with Ashleigh. Ashleigh however still hates her guts for no reason Lauren can figure out and thus Lauren is fed up with her constant sniping and ingratitude. And as for Ashleigh 'letting it go' HA!! has she my furry green butt!! The editors can only fit so much bitching into one hour's programming and the Shevonnalogues have been the flava of da week. Ashleigh's hatred for Lauren has been going on since week one and has not stopped. Any convo where Lauren is mentioned she is still very bitchy about her and she has Nommed poor Lauren EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Oh yes, she so obviously 'letting it go!' HHAAAA!!!!

[liveloveadore]

Originally Posted by WozMan

SPOT ON OPTIMISTIC!! Her bahaviour is completely normal and genuine for her personality and the circumstances she has undergone in the house. If DTM finds every person who has ever complained about a person without directly confronting them on it he must hate an AWFUL lot of people. That's just not healthy

You just countered your own argument there. She is doing what any healthy single female would do. She is flirting with some one whom she feels comfortable with who is a strong, confidant, well-adjusted man. Poor girl needs to have some fun with the constant tension of being stuck with people who have been nasty with her from the first week.

SOOO true. The latest Caroline hate campaign against Luke A is a great example. She is ACTIVELY seeking to turn people's opinions against Luke A. She is using every piece of information she can and applying massive amounts of effort and imagination to DEMONISE the lad. Even after Ashleigh disagrees with Caz and says Luke A is a nice person she insists 'NO! He ISN'T! He said X and Y...'

Lauren merely vents about people who are stressing her out. She tried her ABSOLUTE BEST to work on her relationship with Ashleigh. Ashleigh however still hates her guts for no reason Lauren can figure out and thus Lauren is fed up with her constant sniping and ingratitude. And as for Ashleigh 'letting it go' HA!! has she my furry green butt!! The editors can only fit so much bitching into one hour's programming and the Shevonnalogues have been the flava of da week. Ashleigh's hatred for Lauren has been going on since week one and has not stopped. Any convo where Lauren is mentioned she is still very bitchy about her and she has Nommed poor Lauren EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Oh yes, she so obviously 'letting it go!' HHAAAA!!!!

I agree with everything you say, the worst offenders in the house for nastiness and bullying, being fake and outright bitchyness are actually Shievonne and Caroline, closely followed by Conor. Shievonne IMHO has turnt into a bully, she does not listen to a single thing said to her, its her opinion and nobody elses counts. Sarah is a bit like that too, she just does not listen to what others are saying. I actually think the only honest person in that house is Luke A. Ashleigh hates Lauren as she see's her as a threat with Luke.

[fitz2k2]

I never like lauren something always seem fishy about her

[optimisticcynic]

There many distinctions between self-preservation/indecisiveness/ambivalence/being two-faced. Lauren's actions do not seem to be steeped in malice but reflect a desire to be accepted and liked and avoid confrontation. Hence she will interact with those she feels are close and those by whom she is threatened, giving little away to isolate herself, and her discussion of how she really feels isn't really bitching. You may hate half the people you work with but there is no benefit from shouting this from the rooftops on a daily basis. You simply get on as best you can, and whinge to your nearest and dearest when you get home. The inability to put these boundaries in place with constant argument as a result (I think this is the "being real" that everyone seems to aspire to), is actually the pathological behaviour and gets people nowhere in the real world.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Of course she's fake. Like pretending to be attracted to adam there's nobody else for her to do this with

[august]

hello
I love Lauren stupid laugh gruff voice thro' smoking
but downright sexy and unaware of it earthy ..without realising it only my opinion
off now to watch ..Borgen .thanks folks for your time

[BBUKAUSFAN]

and there we go the housemates are seeing how sneaky and two faced she see on tonights ep. Lets hope they catch her out and let her fall.

[cell]

Lauren is just desperate to be liked by everyone. She even says herself women don't like her and she desperately wanted to get female friends from the experience.
She is willing to adapt herself to any situation to make herself likable to the current person she is socializing with.
Unfortunately in the BB house the only think you can talk about is other people and it is worst that the house is divided so people on opposite "sides" want to bitch about the others. Wanting to be liked Lauren ends up in the center and quickly divulges information probably without malicious intent but it is now getting back around.
I won't be surprised if Deana's planted information makes it's way back round from Lauren, but I won't feel Lauren is particularly "false" or " 2 faced" for leaking information she just has a character flaw that it not necessarily detrimental on the outside world when you have separate social circles but it is essentially kiss of death in the BB house.

[Yayita]

So sad, the Deana and Lauren fans used to be in harmony but now that the Lauren fans feel Deana is after her, and are calling Deana sneaky manipulator; the love affair is over.

[Kizzy]

Finally she realised you gan't bully people into liking you... I don't like the way deana is being influenced by shiv to find out her twofacedness, but on this occasion I think she might be right we shall see.