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I haven't read a tabloid in about 15yrs...
Wouldn't wipe my arse with the mail.
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Lightbulb Lord McAlpine 'to take legal action' over abuse claims

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Lord McAlpine has "no choice" but to take legal action over claims of abuse at a north Wales children's home, the Conservative peer's solicitor has said.

Andrew Reid said claims linking the peer to alleged historical child abuse were "false and seriously defamatory".

The solicitor was critical of the BBC's Newsnight, on which claims were made although no-one was named.

The BBC has said an abuse victim had serious allegations to make and deserved to be heard on Newsnight.

Asked by BBC Radio 4's PM programme if Lord McAlpine would take legal action, Mr Reid said: "Sadly he has no choice.
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A former resident of a north Wales care home has apologised for making false allegations of sexual abuse against a Conservative politician.

Steve Messham said a case of mistaken identity had led to peer Lord McAlpine being linked to the historical claims.

Mr Messham offered "sincere and humble apologies" to the peer and his family.

In a statement on Friday evening, Mr Messham said: "After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this [is] not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine."
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On Ch4News now
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The Lord is Not the Man
says Steve Meesham

Live On Ch4News now.

Omah change your heading - as its no longer just him "claims"
as he is Not the pedo

BBC Newsnight Got it Wrong
The Guardian Got it wrong


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...se-allegations

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The BBC has issued an unreserved apology for a Newsnight report which led to Lord McAlpine being wrongly implicated in the alleged sexual abuse of children at north Wales care homes.

It comes after a victim, Steve Messham, apologised to the former Tory treasurer after saying he did not assault him.

Newsnight had reported Mr Messham's claims against a leading 1980s Tory politician but did not name him.

The BBC also announced an "immediate pause" in all Newsnight investigations.

The BBC's statement said: "On 2 November, Newsnight broadcast a report that looked into criticism of the North Wales Abuse Tribunal.

"The report included an interview with Steve Messham, an abuse victim who said that a senior political figure of the time had abused him.

"We broadcast Mr Messham's claim but did not identify the individual concerned. Mr Messham has tonight made a statement that makes clear he wrongly identified his abuser and has apologised.

"We also apologise unreservedly for having broadcast this report."

The BBC said that, on Friday night, director general George Entwistle had ordered the following actions:
  1. Sending in a senior news executive to "supervise" Friday night's edition of Newsnight
  2. An apology broadcast on Friday's programme
  3. An "immediate pause in all Newsnight investigations to assess editorial robustness and supervision"
  4. Commissioning BBC Scotland director Ken MacQuarrie to write an "urgent report for the DG covering what happened on this Newsnight investigation"
  5. An "immediate suspension" of all co-productions with the Bureau of Investigative Journalism which Newsnight worked with on the programme
Not good for Newsnight .....
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BREAKING NEWS:BBC DG Entwistle: The Newsnight film on child abuse in north Wales should not have gone out
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BREAKING NEWS:BBC DG Entwistle: The Newsnight film on child abuse in north Wales should not have gone out
Its a Bucket of Worms
Utter Mess


GE
looks so guilty on BBC News (this morning)
(of course he has only just started his job)
trying to save Newsnight.


Meanwhile
Media Guardian Expert Steve Hewlett
on SkyNewsHD
said taking the Newsnight Editor
away has not worked
a BBC Radio 5 News Boss is trying to sort
Newsnight out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/stevehewlett

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Ah, are we to expect the investigation to grind to a halt now due to this mix up in family members?...I hope not
There is still the matter of the evidence which was destroyed following the 90's inquiry?
Mr Meesham has been discredited rather unfairly... It's not his fault that the blame was laid at Lord McAlpines door...
He was a child victim of systematic abuse... He gave names, times, dates, places and even photographic evidence.
What else could he do?
Was it not the job of the inquiry to piece together this evidence and correctly identify the suspect?
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Newsnight needs its proper Editor back,
and must Stop sending out tweets to press
as they got it wrong.


"George Entwistle admits Newsnight Tory
sex abuse claims should never have been broadcast
The BBC's director general George Entwistle
has admitted the Newsnight film which
wrongly accused a senior Conservative
figure of child abuse should never
have been broadcast, but he refused
to resign over the issue."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...broadcast.html

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I hope that Lord McAlpine is able to sue for libel and defamation of character, the people who named him on the Internet. Steve Messham who is claiming he was abused as a child never named Lord McAlpine, the hysterics did. Consequently Mr Messham's Case has been weakened considerably and the focus taken off the real issue. And it looks like some of those hysterics are still putting two and two together and coming up with twenty two.

Are people really so simple that they feel they can accuse people of the most heinous of crimes with no evidence whatsoever? The profound stupidity of some people astounds me sometimes
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Are people really so simple that they feel they can accuse people of the most heinous of crimes with no evidence whatsoever? The profound stupidity of some people astounds me sometimes
Yeah, me too .....

Apparently, some people believe Jimmy Savile is innocent .....

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I hope that Lord McAlpine is able to sue for libel and defamation of character, the people who named him on the Internet. Steve Messham who is claiming he was abused as a child never named Lord McAlpine, the hysterics did.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20269114

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Steve Messham said police had shown him a picture of his abuser but incorrectly told him the man was Lord McAlpine.

The BBC's Newsnight reported his claims against a leading 1980s Tory politician but did not name Lord McAlpine.

The BBC apologised "unreservedly" for airing it and announced an "immediate pause" in Newsnight investigations.

Meanwhile, Lord McAlpine's solicitor says he will take legal action against those who later named and linked him to the claims.

Mr Messham has offered "sincere and humble apologies" to the peer and his family.

In a statement on Friday evening Mr Messham said: "After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this [is] not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine."
So Mr Messham believed his abuser WAS Lord McAlpine - hence, the police are to blame for the so-called "witch-hunt" .....

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So Mr Messham believed his abuser WAS Lord McAlpine - hence, the police are to blame for the so-called "witch-hunt" .....
Hmmm... can everyone pass your pitchforks to the right please?....
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Hmmm... can everyone pass your pitchforks to the right please?....
Which witch are we witch-hunting now ?

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Which witch are we witch-hunting now ?

Well... panorama is blaming newsnight, the media are blaming the BBC, the government are blaming George Entwistle, Lord McAlpine is blaming the internet, the public are blaming Phillip Schofield, and the victim is blaming the police
So I dunno...
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Whipping people into a frenzy is the speciality of the British media.
We are not aware how Lord McAlpines name became linked to this case, blaming the victim however is not going to benefit anyone I feel.
Why the anger has been redirected away from the focus of the issue I don't know.
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Yes the Victim
still has to find the Pedo gang.

But the BBC Staff sent tweets
they started the frenzy,
Newsnight does not have the Proper Editor
they need him back.

The BBC newsnight team do a good job
most times.
They are even now on BBCHD at 10:30PM as well
as BBC2.


But the point is Newsnight
first claimed they were going to name him
they must stop tweets.
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Well Done John Humphrys


"Today, PM David Cameron refused
to comment on the BBC's growing crisis"


Yes good move PM
let the Bloated BBC sort it.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2BqBgrBWr

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'Winnie the Pooh would have been more effective': BBC chief faces calls to quit after humiliating interview with his own presenter in wake of Newsnight sex abuse scandal

George Entwistle admits he did not watch last weekend's BBC2 show
Mr Entwistle knew nothing about it - until a member of staff told him
  • He didn't read yesterday's papers in which the report finally unraveled
  • The BBC chief described the report on child abuse as 'unacceptable'
  • He warns staff involved in the programme could now disciplinary action
  • Today, PM David Cameron refused to comment on the BBC's growing crisis
  • Former Minister David Mellor said: 'He came across as so out of touch'
  • Former PCC chairman Sir Christopher Meyer said: 'Humphrys' humiliation of Entwistle almost painful to listen to.'


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If Entwistle was the best candidate in the first, the field can not have been better than the selling plate at Fakenham race course.'

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"government are blaming George Entwistle"


No
Stop your Twizzle
the PM has said leave it to Nick Pollard and the others.
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No
Stop your Twizzle
the PM has said leave it to Nick Pollard and the others.
Stop your twizzle arista...
If we are to think laterally on this why are you posting quotes from the mail...
A tabloid with a distinct political agenda?
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I post the D. Mail to help Omah get a new heading.


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