[Slezer]

He doesn't wanna talk about sex 24:7 and be called she or queen. What the **** is wrong with that? Nothing.

[albie]

Nor should he have a problem being called a she or queen, or talking about sex 24:7.

[DizzyLizzy]

Originally posted by rat

I am with you man! being a fellow cod head a feel we are bretheren anyway but i do agree

I'm not thick I just misunderstood what you said. Dont call me thick please.

[Edwin]

He may want to talk about sex 24/7 but he doesn't want his family to see. It's hardly a crime.
Just because he doesn't go on about sex doesn't mean he doesn't do it, or doesn't like what he's doing, i mean look at susie.

[albie]

Originally posted by DizzyLizzy

I'm not thick I just misunderstood what you said. Dont call me thick please.

I accept your apology.

[Slezer]

Originally posted by albie
Nor should he have a problem being called a she or queen, or talking about sex 24:7.

Why shouldn't he? Not every gay person thinks they're a woman. You're so ignorant and narrow-minded there's no point in even debating with you because you never accept other peoples point of views or opinions.

Personal insults are not allowed on this forum - warning issued

[Edwin]

Exactly. He has a willy. He is a he. Grow up.

[albie]

Originally posted by Edwin
He may want to talk about sex 24/7 but he doesn't want his family to see. It's hardly a crime.
Just because he doesn't go on about sex doesn't mean he doesn't do it, or doesn't like what he's doing, i mean look at susie.

You have a point. I wouldn't want my parents seeing me talk about bumming.

But I feel that at the heart of this is a basic fear of being gay itself. This is how Rich sees it. But if there is another reason, Michael won't get into a conversation about it, and Rich can't find the real reason.

Michael does say he doesn't want to totally define himself by sex. But that's an insult to Rich and most flamboyant gays.

Michael is being judgmental.

[Slezer]

Was Michael not talking to Richard about Butch and Camp men before the arguement happened? Just think about it he has to deal with it all the time at home he goes into Big Brother and Richard starts perving over him with questions he's not comfortable in awnsering.

[albie]

Originally posted by Slezer

Why shouldn't he? Not every gay person thinks they're a woman. You're so ignorant and narrow-minded there's no point in even debating with you because you never accept other peoples point of views or opinions.

Why shouldn't he what? Make sense. And don't call me ignorant, you ****. When was the last time YOU had your opinion changed by anything anyone ever said? Never.

They don't think they are women, but they are women. Your penis does not define you. Your brain and your actions DO.

Your brain is YOU.

Michael hates gays. Simple as that. That's why he can't bear being called one. He's a coward.


Edited by Sunny_01 - Again you insult other members

[abs]

micheal is a prat! the 1st night in the secret house he went off on 1 (i think it was with spiral). if he doesnt want to talk about his sexuality, what in the blue hell is he doing on a reality programme?!?! you should not feel that you have to walk on egg shells with certain people in the house, if someones got "issues" then they should sort them out elsewhere...

micheal reminds me of that other prat that was following anthony last year. the likes of richard & derek are more than comfortable (mainly because they are older & wise enuff to dea with it).

[Edwin]

I don't see how it is an insult to Richard. Richard finds it hilarious to laugh at Michael's beliefs, but because he doesn't like being a flambouyant gay and constantly going on about being gay he doesn't like him. Michael is trying to say that being gay doesn't make him any different, well, maybe in the bedroom, but that's it. He wants to be seen as Michael and not 'a gay', and i don't see the problem. It's just Richard isn't willing to accept that Michael is like that, whereas Michael has accepted him for being flambouyant.

Originally posted by albie
Why shouldn't he what? Make sense. And don't call me ignorant, you dick. When was the last time YOU had your opinion changed by anything anyone ever said? Never.

Oh my god, TALK TO PEOPLE WITH RESPECT AND YOU WILL GET IT BACK.

Originally posted by albie
They don't think they are women, but they are women. Your penis does not define you. Your brain and your actions DO.

biggest pile of tosh ever Penis=man Vagina=woman, alright? There isn't anything in between.

Originally posted by albie
Your brain is YOU.

Your sex isn't your personality. There are women who like to drink beer and play football, and there are men who like to wear jewellery. But they're still men, and they're still women.

Originally posted by albie
Michael hates gays. Simple as that. That's why he can't bear being called one. He's a coward.

No. He doesn't want to be classified as a "typical gay" like Richard, but Richard is trying to stick a label on him.

Originally posted by albie
Now buzz off back to your Sezer rape world.

Please grow up. Or just grow up up and away

[Slezer]

Albie Albie Albie. LOL there are loadsa gay men that dont think they're women you ****. I may have never had my opinion changed but I always listen to somebody else's.

Are you sure you're not the gay one? After all you did send me that PM once saying bum bum!

Edited by Sunny_01 - again stop with the personal insults please

[albie]

Originally posted by Slezer
Was Michael not talking to Richard about Butch and Camp men before the arguement happened? Just think about it he has to deal with it all the time at home he goes into Big Brother and Richard starts perving over him with questions he's not comfortable in awnsering.

Exactly. It seemed like Michael was alright with talking about it. He seemed to be taking it well, and having a laugh. Then he blows up.

I would have punched the ****.

Rich isn't being cruel. He's goading him so he talks about his issues.

Michael is uptight. He deserves to be goaded.

[Slezer]

lol at the thought of Albie attempting to throw a punch PWAHAHAHA

[abs]

no need for personal insults girls, i mean boys!

[albie]

You don't see how it's an insult? Michael is implying that flambouyant gays are shallow. That they only define themselves with sex and being gay.

Insulting.

[DizzyLizzy]

Exactly. It seemed like Michael was alright with talking about it. He seemed to be taking it well, and having a laugh. Then he blows up.

I would have punched the ****.

Rich isn't being cruel. He's goading him so he talks about his issues.

Michael is uptight. He deserves to be goaded. [/quote]


STOP SAYING ****!

[Edwin]

Originally posted by albie
You don't see how it's an insult? Michael is implying that flambouyant gays are shallow. That they only define themselves with sex and being gay.

But that is pretty much what you've just said. You're contradicting yourself completely.

[abs]

but seriously though micheal does have some sort of problem. i find richards wise cracks funny personally, he has a sense of humour, something that the likes of imogen, mikey (& do i dare say pete) dont have! but richard said he will avoid him so im sure he will stick to his words...

[Slezer]

Originally posted by albie
You don't see how it's an insult? Michael is implying that flambouyant gays are shallow. That they only define themselves with sex and being gay.

Insulting.

Being serious Albie are you gay?

[Edwin]

Originally posted by abs
but seriously though micheal does have some sort of problem. i find richards wise cracks funny personally, he has a sense of humour, something that the likes of imogen, mikey (& do i dare say pete) dont have! but richard said he will avoid him so I'm sure he will stick to his words...

Michael is just too overly conscious of what people think of him. He wants to be a gay man with masculinity, but richard just keeps challenging and mocking him and it's driving him mad. He should just be himself and stop worrying about what the public think, because he is making himself look like an idiot to be honest.

[DizzyLizzy]

I agree Michael is doing himself no favours

[Edwin]

Him and spiral are both doing the same thing. They should just both be more easy going like Jayne and they will come across alot better.

[DizzyLizzy]

Michaels outburst in the bathroom was unnecessary. I thought from the beginning when he snapped at Spiral in the secret house for asking about his sexuality that he was over reacting
I think Richard just finds his behaviour hard to understand as he is usually around confident gay males I would imagine